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New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky

Posted By: greendart408

New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 04:24 AM

A pic of what I have been busy doing the last few months.

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Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 04:29 AM

Very nice, is that a Keiser mech injection system
Posted By: greendart408

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 04:37 AM

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Very nice, is that a Keiser mech injection system




Mr P. No it is a rons toilet system.
Posted By: ChrisJohnston669

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 04:46 AM

That thing is going to be sick. Did you get some fuel additives. What smell would you go with?
Posted By: greendart408

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 04:51 AM

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That thing is going to be sick. Did you get some fuel additives. What smell would you go with?



I havent thought about that yet. hah! Trying to get it together so I can mock up my belt drive pump and have to build a fuel cell that fits the angle of the stock inner fender.
Posted By: racerhog

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 07:15 AM

Sweet.....
Posted By: RyanJ

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 03:36 PM

Looks familiar
Posted By: ProSport

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 03:38 PM

Posted By: B3422W5

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 03:42 PM

How about a little info on the motor, what weight car it is going in, etc
Posted By: greendart408

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 04:07 PM

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How about a little info on the motor, what weight car it is going in, etc



It is going in a 69 dart with ladder bars, and coilovers. It weighed 3050lbs race ready before with w2s on it. It should be 2975 or so with the w5s or so I am hopeing. I have lost a little weight also . Motor is 408ci, 14-1comp,SDSS max effort w5s with a 683,728 roller. IT has a 727 trans with a 5200 vert. Hopefully it will run.

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Posted By: B3422W5

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 04:17 PM

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How about a little info on the motor, what weight car it is going in, etc



It is going in a 69 dart with ladder bars, and coilovers. It weighed 3050lbs race ready before with w2s on it. It should be 2975 or so with the w5s or so I am hopeing. I have lost a little weight also . Motor is 408ci, 14-1comp,SDSS max effort w5s with a 683,728 roller. IT has a 727 trans with a 5200 vert. Hopefully it will run.




I have a good friend with a 66 cuda, older indy heads, 379 motor, 13.5 compression, custom headers, 3100 with him in it, ladders, 727.
He has a flying toilet on his, alky.
He has been in the high 9.40's with it.139 mph.

I would suspect at your weight car should go 35 to 50 or so
Posted By: greendart408

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 04:28 PM

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How about a little info on the motor, what weight car it is going in, etc



It is going in a 69 dart with ladder bars, and coilovers. It weighed 3050lbs race ready before with w2s on it. It should be 2975 or so with the w5s or so I am hopeing. I have lost a little weight also . Motor is 408ci, 14-1comp,SDSS max effort w5s with a 683,728 roller. IT has a 727 trans with a 5200 vert. Hopefully it will run.




I have a good friend with a 66 cuda, older indy heads, 379 motor, 13.5 compression, custom headers, 3100 with him in it, ladders, 727.
He has a flying toilet on his, alky.
He has been in the high 9.40's with it.139 mph.

I would suspect at your weight car should go 35 to 50 or so



I hope you are right Don as this is what I am hopeing it will run, as well as what Ryan J said also.
Posted By: B3422W5

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 04:37 PM

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How about a little info on the motor, what weight car it is going in, etc



It is going in a 69 dart with ladder bars, and coilovers. It weighed 3050lbs race ready before with w2s on it. It should be 2975 or so with the w5s or so I am hopeing. I have lost a little weight also . Motor is 408ci, 14-1comp,SDSS max effort w5s with a 683,728 roller. IT has a 727 trans with a 5200 vert. Hopefully it will run.




I have a good friend with a 66 cuda, older indy heads, 379 motor, 13.5 compression, custom headers, 3100 with him in it, ladders, 727.
He has a flying toilet on his, alky.
He has been in the high 9.40's with it.139 mph.

I would suspect at your weight car should go 35 to 50 or so



I hope you are right Don as this is what I am hopeing it will run, as well as what Ryan J said also.




At one time, the guy with the 66 cuda was running 9.68 to 9.72 or so(he later, with a cam change, more porting, etc got in the high 40's)but anyhow, when he was running high 60's low 70's, one afternoon we swapped on my 1100 pro systems dominator and ran the car on race gas. He made one lap like that(we didnt have everything perfect, i am sure, and he went 10 flat.

My thinking is that the flying toilet and alky is about 3 tenths better than a well scienced out dominator on gas.
I go 9.80s in good air with mine on leafs at 3350, so you are lighter and have the toilet, i dont doubt you will go 40's without working up a sweat, maybe some 30's

Sound like you have a very good combination, should go 1.27- 1.28 60 foot or so.

You are gong to be surprised how snappy the throttle is, and how much torque that toilet will provide, hope you have wheelie bars, cause it will want to get up on them...lol
Posted By: greendart408

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 04:50 PM

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How about a little info on the motor, what weight car it is going in, etc



It is going in a 69 dart with ladder bars, and coilovers. It weighed 3050lbs race ready before with w2s on it. It should be 2975 or so with the w5s or so I am hopeing. I have lost a little weight also . Motor is 408ci, 14-1comp,SDSS max effort w5s with a 683,728 roller. IT has a 727 trans with a 5200 vert. Hopefully it will run.




I have a good friend with a 66 cuda, older indy heads, 379 motor, 13.5 compression, custom headers, 3100 with him in it, ladders, 727.
He has a flying toilet on his, alky.
He has been in the high 9.40's with it.139 mph.

I would suspect at your weight car should go 35 to 50 or so



I hope you are right Don as this is what I am hopeing it will run, as well as what Ryan J said also.




At one time, the guy with the 66 cuda was running 9.68 to 9.72 or so(he later, with a cam change, more porting, etc got in the high 40's)but anyhow, when he was running high 60's low 70's, one afternoon we swapped on my 1100 pro systems dominator and ran the car on race gas. He made one lap like that(we didnt have everything perfect, i am sure, and he went 10 flat.

My thinking is that the flying toilet and alky is about 3 tenths better than a well scienced out dominator on gas.
I go 9.80s in good air with mine on leafs at 3350, so you are lighter and have the toilet, i dont doubt you will go 40's without working up a sweat, maybe some 30's

Sound like you have a very good combination, should go 1.27- 1.28 60 foot or so.

You are gong to be surprised how snappy the throttle is, and how much torque that toilet will provide, hope you have wheelie bars, cause it will want to get up on them...lol



I dont have any wheelie bars Don, street car, probably wont go far now though . Have you ever known anyone that has ran that m1 tunnel ram? I am thinking that might give me a gain as well?
Posted By: B3422W5

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 04:54 PM

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How about a little info on the motor, what weight car it is going in, etc



It is going in a 69 dart with ladder bars, and coilovers. It weighed 3050lbs race ready before with w2s on it. It should be 2975 or so with the w5s or so I am hopeing. I have lost a little weight also . Motor is 408ci, 14-1comp,SDSS max effort w5s with a 683,728 roller. IT has a 727 trans with a 5200 vert. Hopefully it will run.




I have a good friend with a 66 cuda, older indy heads, 379 motor, 13.5 compression, custom headers, 3100 with him in it, ladders, 727.
He has a flying toilet on his, alky.
He has been in the high 9.40's with it.139 mph.

I would suspect at your weight car should go 35 to 50 or so



I hope you are right Don as this is what I am hopeing it will run, as well as what Ryan J said also.




At one time, the guy with the 66 cuda was running 9.68 to 9.72 or so(he later, with a cam change, more porting, etc got in the high 40's)but anyhow, when he was running high 60's low 70's, one afternoon we swapped on my 1100 pro systems dominator and ran the car on race gas. He made one lap like that(we didnt have everything perfect, i am sure, and he went 10 flat.

My thinking is that the flying toilet and alky is about 3 tenths better than a well scienced out dominator on gas.
I go 9.80s in good air with mine on leafs at 3350, so you are lighter and have the toilet, i dont doubt you will go 40's without working up a sweat, maybe some 30's

Sound like you have a very good combination, should go 1.27- 1.28 60 foot or so.

You are gong to be surprised how snappy the throttle is, and how much torque that toilet will provide, hope you have wheelie bars, cause it will want to get up on them...lol



I dont have any wheelie bars Don, street car, probably wont go far now though . Have you ever known anyone that has ran that m1 tunnel ram? I am thinking that might give me a gain as well?



No, cant say as i have.

My guess is that the car wont mind it a bit, any torque it kills off is more than offset by your alky injection, and it should pull like a freight train on the big end.

Just be patient tuning that thing, i am guessing it will take a while to sort it all out. But once you do, hang on

Jonny(the guy with the 66 379 stroke cuda)beats the urine out of that thing, runs it 7800 to 8000 every pass
Posted By: greendart408

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 05:07 PM

I am going to try to dyno it at the place that Andy F does his dynoing. They are good guys there and real smart with alky injected stuff. This way it will be close at least when I get it to the track. I turned my old w2 stuff to 7500 every pass. I want to keep the revs down if I can. Stock block. I crossed at 7450 with old combo at 134.80 with 29.5 tire. What gear do you guys think with the new combo?? 4.30s or 4.10s??
Posted By: MegaDart

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 05:56 PM

Good luck with it, I had one kinda like it

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Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 06:19 PM

Very, very nice indeed.........should do the trick I would think.

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Posted By: 440Jim

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 06:42 PM

Twin Toilets on a Tunnel ram.

That has a ring to it!

What size are those toilets?
3.75" 1240 CFM
4.0" 1435 CFM
4.1" 1800 CFM

Did they set you up with a #0 or #0.5 pump?
Posted By: greendart408

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 06:52 PM

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Twin Toilets on a Tunnel ram.

That has a ring to it!

What size are those toilets?
3.75" 1240 CFM
4.0" 1435 CFM
4.1" 1800 CFM

Did they set you up with a #0 or #0.5 pump?



They are two 3.75 toilets. and a #0.5 pump
Posted By: Moparnut426

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 06:56 PM

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How about a little info on the motor, what weight car it is going in, etc



It is going in a 69 dart with ladder bars, and coilovers. It weighed 3050lbs race ready before with w2s on it. It should be 2975 or so with the w5s or so I am hopeing. I have lost a little weight also . Motor is 408ci, 14-1comp,SDSS max effort w5s with a 683,728 roller. IT has a 727 trans with a 5200 vert. Hopefully it will run.




What Guts are in it?? Crank, Rods, Pistons, and what block you using?

Posted By: greendart408

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 07:21 PM

Mp, scat 4340 4in crank, eagle 6.200 rod, je pistons. Stock block, sonic checked with pro gram billet splayed caps.
Posted By: B3422W5

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 08:05 PM

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Mp, scat 4340 4in crank, eagle 6.200 rod, je pistons. Stock block, sonic checked with pro gram billet splayed caps.




Just so you know, with the 650-680 horse you are throwing at that block, it will split.

Its a definate mistake...sorry gotta say that
Posted By: lenweiler

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/03/09 08:49 PM

Nice. Real nice.
Posted By: vc360

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/04/09 12:26 AM

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Mp, scat 4340 4in crank, eagle 6.200 rod, je pistons. Stock block, sonic checked with pro gram billet splayed caps.




Just so you know, with the 650-680 horse you are throwing at that block, it will split.

Its a definate mistake...sorry gotta say that




It sounded like it was a killer combo till the stock block bit.
Don have you broken a stock block before?
Posted By: BobsProFab

Re: New bullet, W5, 408 injected on alky - 01/04/09 12:41 AM

Killer Small Block
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