Posted By: Triple Threat
2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO
Posted By: dustergirl340
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/11/14 05:41 PM
Oh hell yeah...
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/11/14 06:01 PM
Saw one here in town a couple weeks ago. Dodge has a test facility not s of Fords far from Vegas, lots of new Fords around too. Anyway ran into the guy at the gas station near LVMS. Cool looking car. I hear they are all already spoken for and that dealerships are to get two each. Should be interesting to see how many if any make it to NHRA Stock and SS racing.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/11/14 06:03 PM
And that was w/ an a$$ monkey driving it.. (just kidding I like RR). It did appear the "old school" Hemi burned up the tires and maybe missed a shift.
Posted By: mshred
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/11/14 07:22 PM
I believe the 10.80 is on drag radials, but still, very impressive to say the least! I am sure the price tag will reflect the performance thats for sure!
Posted By: Triple Threat
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/11/14 07:36 PM
Correct. 11.20 on stock tires, 10.80 on Drag radials.
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/12/14 12:27 AM
I was BS-ing at the local Dodge dealer waiting on the parts guy yesterday. Our store will be marking them up $10K minimum over MSRP. He told MSRP will be around $74K, with little in the way of option deletes.
High end car, for high end wallets.
High end car, for high end wallets.
Posted By: HOTMOPR
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/12/14 01:03 AM
Quote:
Correct. 11.20 on stock tires, 10.80 on Drag radials.
I bet theres another .5-1.0 second in it with minor mods.. I wish I had the cash.
Posted By: pittsburghracer
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/12/14 01:18 AM
I could always spend my kids inheritance and buy one. 
They could have it when I'm dead and gone.
They could have it when I'm dead and gone.
Posted By: WO23Coronet
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/12/14 02:46 AM
It won't be long and we'll see lightly modded (pulleys and tune) Hellcats running 9's
Posted By: Stroker Scamp
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/12/14 09:05 AM
was that at Pacific?
Posted By: Chris'sBarracuda
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/12/14 09:38 AM
This sure opens up a can of worms for NHRA..
So you take your factory stock street car to the test n tune at your local track only to get bounced..
10.99 and quicker:
1. Aftermarket balancer
2. Aftermarket Axles
3. Transmission Shield
4. Roll Bar
5. 16.1 3" driver restraint (seat belts)
6. 3.2A/1 Jacket
7. Helmet
That's just my quick list..
EDIT: I did find that NHRA lifted the roll bar deal from 2008 and up factory stock "UNALTERED" vehicles..
So, if you put drag radials on, you have just altered the car..
I wonder how strict tech will be on these cars..
Chris..
So you take your factory stock street car to the test n tune at your local track only to get bounced..
10.99 and quicker:
1. Aftermarket balancer
2. Aftermarket Axles
3. Transmission Shield
4. Roll Bar
5. 16.1 3" driver restraint (seat belts)
6. 3.2A/1 Jacket
7. Helmet
That's just my quick list..
EDIT: I did find that NHRA lifted the roll bar deal from 2008 and up factory stock "UNALTERED" vehicles..
So, if you put drag radials on, you have just altered the car..
I wonder how strict tech will be on these cars..
Chris..
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/12/14 08:52 PM
Quote:
This sure opens up a can of worms for NHRA..
So you take your factory stock street car to the test n tune at your local track only to get bounced..
10.99 and quicker:
1. Aftermarket balancer
2. Aftermarket Axles
3. Transmission Shield
4. Roll Bar
5. 16.1 3" driver restraint (seat belts)
6. 3.2A/1 Jacket
7. Helmet
That's just my quick list..
EDIT: I did find that NHRA lifted the roll bar deal from 2008 and up factory stock "UNALTERED" vehicles..
So, if you put drag radials on, you have just altered the car..
I wonder how strict tech will be on these cars..
Chris..
They better re-write their rules, lots of crazy fast stuff out there these days and they're only getting faster.
Example, next Camaro is going to be 800lbs~ lighter than the current one and likely have even more power.
Like they said in the one video, if you missed the first muscle car era, don't miss this one!
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/12/14 10:43 PM
Interesting question about the SFI requirements.
My initial impression is that they should require owners to meet all the applicable safety requirements. Mopar should put an SFI approved balancer on these cars from the factory. It does hurt that you need to put a roll bar in a factory car, but the rules are there for a reason. You can't go 120 mph legally on the street, but you can on the race track.
My initial impression is that they should require owners to meet all the applicable safety requirements. Mopar should put an SFI approved balancer on these cars from the factory. It does hurt that you need to put a roll bar in a factory car, but the rules are there for a reason. You can't go 120 mph legally on the street, but you can on the race track.
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/12/14 10:46 PM
Quote:Ouch!
I was BS-ing at the local Dodge dealer waiting on the parts guy yesterday. Our store will be marking them up $10K minimum over MSRP. He told MSRP will be around $74K, with little in the way of option deletes.
High end car, for high end wallets.
It is hard enough to come up with $74k MSRP, but to pay $10k over MSRP is not going to happen for me. Even the SRT sticker price is expensive for many of us.
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/13/14 01:56 AM
Quote:Quote:Ouch!
I was BS-ing at the local Dodge dealer waiting on the parts guy yesterday. Our store will be marking them up $10K minimum over MSRP. He told MSRP will be around $74K, with little in the way of option deletes.
High end car, for high end wallets.
It is hard enough to come up with $74k MSRP, but to pay $10k over MSRP is not going to happen for me. Even the SRT sticker price is expensive for many of us.
74?
Leaked price is 59K
Posted By: fullmetaljacket
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 12:26 AM
It will be a competitive price and reachable with blood sweat and Cheers.
I have a source and the 10.80's is confirmed. I know for sure that my hired Ace gunner aka "Glasses" can make that pup up the anti even more.
I have a source and the 10.80's is confirmed. I know for sure that my hired Ace gunner aka "Glasses" can make that pup up the anti even more.
Posted By: 68KillerBee
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 01:33 AM
Quote:Quote:Quote:Ouch!
I was BS-ing at the local Dodge dealer waiting on the parts guy yesterday. Our store will be marking them up $10K minimum over MSRP. He told MSRP will be around $74K, with little in the way of option deletes.
High end car, for high end wallets.
It is hard enough to come up with $74k MSRP, but to pay $10k over MSRP is not going to happen for me. Even the SRT sticker price is expensive for many of us.
74?
Leaked price is 59K
Time to sell all my stocks and 401k....at 26 years old. Sounds like a responsible choice.
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 01:44 AM
Quote:Quote:Quote:Ouch!
I was BS-ing at the local Dodge dealer waiting on the parts guy yesterday. Our store will be marking them up $10K minimum over MSRP. He told MSRP will be around $74K, with little in the way of option deletes.
High end car, for high end wallets.
It is hard enough to come up with $74k MSRP, but to pay $10k over MSRP is not going to happen for me. Even the SRT sticker price is expensive for many of us.
74?
Leaked price is 59K
I hope you are right and the HellCat sold to the public will back those numbers up 59k is not a Bad price for a fully driven A/C and the works street car that runs those numbers.
Look at the price of the Vettes and they sell as fast as they hit the Show Room floor!
Face it if you are gonna have to pay that much $$$ for something wouldn't you really rather have a Mopar!
Way to go Mopar now build us what we need for some 800+cu in Mopar engines.Build them we will buy them!
Posted By: ksj
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 02:17 AM
$59,900 is what Ive been hearing as well. 
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 03:52 AM
I am going to wait until the prices drop a d they increase the horsepower. I'm sure it will only go up.
Posted By: 67Satty
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 04:31 AM
Quote:Quote:
This sure opens up a can of worms for NHRA..
So you take your factory stock street car to the test n tune at your local track only to get bounced..
10.99 and quicker:
1. Aftermarket balancer
2. Aftermarket Axles
3. Transmission Shield
4. Roll Bar
5. 16.1 3" driver restraint (seat belts)
6. 3.2A/1 Jacket
7. Helmet
That's just my quick list..
EDIT: I did find that NHRA lifted the roll bar deal from 2008 and up factory stock "UNALTERED" vehicles..
So, if you put drag radials on, you have just altered the car..
I wonder how strict tech will be on these cars..
Chris..
They better re-write their rules, lots of crazy fast stuff out there these days and they're only getting faster.
Example, next Camaro is going to be 800lbs~ lighter than the current one and likely have even more power.
Like they said in the one video, if you missed the first muscle car era, don't miss this one!
I thought they already had, I thought the NHRA had made exceptions for late model cars?
Posted By: ksj
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 04:53 AM
The 2008 and newer no roll bar,SFI stuff etc is for the AAA sponsored street legal events is what I have heard.Test and tune only.This was a reply I received when I asked on another site.NHRA Needs to post a full explanation as to what events a 2008 and newer Hellcat,ZR1 Vette etc can compete in.
The NHRA “Street Legal Style” events do not include the regular competition programs at most tracks, such as the Summit Racing Series. Nor does it include many special events that still follow regular NHRA/IHRA safety rules, such as Drag Week.
Street Legal Style events are on-track alternatives to illegal street racing . . . a “gateway” series to get folks used to coming to the track. The Street Legal exception does not mean that a Hellcat owner can just bolt on slicks and show up at any track at any time and get to run 10.80s in any event without a legal roll bar, SFI vibration damper, SFI trans shield or bellhousing, etc.
The NHRA “Street Legal Style” events do not include the regular competition programs at most tracks, such as the Summit Racing Series. Nor does it include many special events that still follow regular NHRA/IHRA safety rules, such as Drag Week.
Street Legal Style events are on-track alternatives to illegal street racing . . . a “gateway” series to get folks used to coming to the track. The Street Legal exception does not mean that a Hellcat owner can just bolt on slicks and show up at any track at any time and get to run 10.80s in any event without a legal roll bar, SFI vibration damper, SFI trans shield or bellhousing, etc.
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 05:16 AM
It depends on what track & who is putting on the race,what you can and can't run.I have said it before and will say it again NHRA tracks are not the only tracks out there to race at.Not a smart remark just the truth!
Posted By: ademon
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 05:17 AM
Quote:until the first late model goes roof first into the wall, then the insurance companys will have a say.Quote:Quote:
This sure opens up a can of worms for NHRA..
So you take your factory stock street car to the test n tune at your local track only to get bounced..
10.99 and quicker:
1. Aftermarket balancer
2. Aftermarket Axles
3. Transmission Shield
4. Roll Bar
5. 16.1 3" driver restraint (seat belts)
6. 3.2A/1 Jacket
7. Helmet
That's just my quick list..
EDIT: I did find that NHRA lifted the roll bar deal from 2008 and up factory stock "UNALTERED" vehicles..
So, if you put drag radials on, you have just altered the car..
I wonder how strict tech will be on these cars..
Chris..
They better re-write their rules, lots of crazy fast stuff out there these days and they're only getting faster.
Example, next Camaro is going to be 800lbs~ lighter than the current one and likely have even more power.
Like they said in the one video, if you missed the first muscle car era, don't miss this one!
I thought they already had, I thought the NHRA had made exceptions for late model cars?
Posted By: ksj
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 06:38 AM
Quote:
It depends on what track & who is putting on the race,what you can and can't run.I have said it before and will say it again NHRA tracks are not the only tracks out there to race at.Not a smart remark just the truth!
Agreed.Buddy has a supercharged Caddy that runs 10.50s.One track says he can race the other says NO.Bad thing is the Div 5 director wont give him an answer.Then again Rob Park sold out on the track he owned KCIR.
Posted By: TheOtherDodge
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 03:22 PM
Quote:Quote:
It depends on what track & who is putting on the race,what you can and can't run.I have said it before and will say it again NHRA tracks are not the only tracks out there to race at.Not a smart remark just the truth!
Agreed.Buddy has a supercharged Caddy that runs 10.50s.One track says he can race the other says NO.Bad thing is the Div 5 director wont give him an answer.Then again Rob Park sold out on the track he owned KCIR.
I don't see the confusion here. That should not be allowed to run without the proper safety. There is no rule that even comes close to allowing that Caddy to run 10.50's as is.
There is a huge difference between a car that run's 10.8's from the factory and one that runs 12.'s from the factory and modded to run 10.8's.
Posted By: FASTFISH420
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 03:33 PM
I have a 14 Shelby GT500 and I have run 11.0's at over 133mph with a 2.0 60 foot time and have been warned 2 times at National Trail Raceway because of no rollbar.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 03:41 PM
You all that think the Hellcat will have 59k stocker are nutz. A loaded SRT-8 is close to that.
Posted By: Triple Threat
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 04:04 PM
Its going to be track dependant on the ET cut off. This was filmed at my home track and from talking to the head starter and tech guys it seems they're going to view a stock car with some drag radials bolted on, still stock.
You could always argue that a modern 08+ car capable of sub 10-11's from the factory is probably safer than most racecars with a rollbar and harnesses.
You could always argue that a modern 08+ car capable of sub 10-11's from the factory is probably safer than most racecars with a rollbar and harnesses.
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 05:03 PM
People what are you thinking Mopar is thinking about producing the HellCat Challenger that is great,but no we have to find problems with it.And it is not like that will be the only car out there capable of running those speeds Chevy already has Corvettes Caddy's & Camaro's & Ford has Mustang that will not just run that Fast but Faster and they are selling as fast as they hit the Dealership.It you don't want one then by all means do not buy one but don't ruin it so the rest of us who want & will buy one.Thanks in advance for taking the time to consider/understand what I tried so poorly to say!
Posted By: Airwoofer
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/14/14 09:41 PM
Our local track has NHRA logos on the ir website and at the track and you can TnT anything and nobody comes around teching you. Probably the same in a race.
You could rock that thing all day there, just don't ferget to turn off the AC.
You could rock that thing all day there, just don't ferget to turn off the AC.
Posted By: ChrgrCuda
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 12:31 AM
Quote:
People what are you thinking Mopar is thinking about producing the HellCat Challenger that is great,but no we have to find problems with it.And it is not like that will be the only car out there capable of running those speeds Chevy already has Corvettes Caddy's & Camaro's & Ford has Mustang that will not just run that Fast but Faster and they are selling as fast as they hit the Dealership.It you don't want one then by all means do not buy one but don't ruin it so the rest of us who want & will buy one.Thanks in advance for taking the time to consider/understand what I tried so poorly to say!
What factory GM or Ford runs that fast or faster off show room floor again? Just asking, not trying to start an argument.
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 02:01 AM
Both the ZR1 Corvette & Camaro and the Mustang will as well but not sure which one it is.My Calloway Corvette was suppose to be a 10.20-9.70 when delivered to Hendrix Chevy in NC. It now runs 9.38-9.42 in the 1/4 mile done about 3 weeks ago @ SGMSP.
PS I had company and did not get finish last night.I went to buy a Viper in NC and the owner said if it did not run 11.20's he would give me my $$$ back or I could wait to Saturday night before buying and we could go to the track and he would show me.While I was test driving it he told my friend the owner was selling it to buy this Special Corvette to make a long story short even after seeing it I still wanted the Viper but after driving it,I now own it.It come from Callaway with 790.92 RWH the shop that does our machine & dyno works Son-N-Law races n the 275 class so he knew the mods I needed to make and with a Cam,Pulley(SuperCharger)Head change and a $700.00 Tune & Chassis Dyno makes 1,017 RWH.And the 1 9.42 & 2 9.38 pass's were made at SGMSP with 3.42 rear gears and the Street Nitto NO5 12.5"Drag Radials through the full 3"exhaust with Kooks 1 7/8" headers that the Wife and I drove 135+ miles one way to get there.This Vette drives like a street car not a race-car its the LT4 package it has power everything A/C & Heater (LT1 is the basic Vette with the LT4 being the top of the line,the LT is the car package nothing to do with the LS3 engine) it runs smooth as my Lincoln Town Car @ 45 mph & in 6th gear @ 2,000 RPM runs 80 mph.
I see no reason if Mopar makes the HellCat Challenger with the same minor changes it won't pick up a Second and a Half and remain Streetable. Be forewarned I know all of you on here or either Racers or like Fast cars and if you drive one of these Super-Charged or Turbo-Charged Vettes you will buy it on the spot and not wait for Mopar to release the HellCat.
PS I had company and did not get finish last night.I went to buy a Viper in NC and the owner said if it did not run 11.20's he would give me my $$$ back or I could wait to Saturday night before buying and we could go to the track and he would show me.While I was test driving it he told my friend the owner was selling it to buy this Special Corvette to make a long story short even after seeing it I still wanted the Viper but after driving it,I now own it.It come from Callaway with 790.92 RWH the shop that does our machine & dyno works Son-N-Law races n the 275 class so he knew the mods I needed to make and with a Cam,Pulley(SuperCharger)Head change and a $700.00 Tune & Chassis Dyno makes 1,017 RWH.And the 1 9.42 & 2 9.38 pass's were made at SGMSP with 3.42 rear gears and the Street Nitto NO5 12.5"Drag Radials through the full 3"exhaust with Kooks 1 7/8" headers that the Wife and I drove 135+ miles one way to get there.This Vette drives like a street car not a race-car its the LT4 package it has power everything A/C & Heater (LT1 is the basic Vette with the LT4 being the top of the line,the LT is the car package nothing to do with the LS3 engine) it runs smooth as my Lincoln Town Car @ 45 mph & in 6th gear @ 2,000 RPM runs 80 mph.
I see no reason if Mopar makes the HellCat Challenger with the same minor changes it won't pick up a Second and a Half and remain Streetable. Be forewarned I know all of you on here or either Racers or like Fast cars and if you drive one of these Super-Charged or Turbo-Charged Vettes you will buy it on the spot and not wait for Mopar to release the HellCat.
Posted By: ChrgrCuda
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 02:08 AM
Calloway Corvette is not a factory offering. Never heard of any factory Mustang, Camaro, or Corvette run 10's straight from dealership. Just like a Hennessy Viper is not a factory offering from Dodge, is it faster? Of course, but again not a factory offering.
Posted By: fullmetaljacket
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 02:15 AM
Word!
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 02:29 AM
Quote:
Both the ZR1 Corvette & Camaro and the Mustang will as well but not sure which one it is.My Calloway Corvette was suppose to be a 10.20-9.70 when delivered to Hendrix Chevy in NC. It now runs 9.38-9.42 in the 1/4 mile done about 3 weeks ago @ SGMSP.
That's not a factory production car. The Challenger Hellcat IS a 10 second factory production car.
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 03:39 AM
Quote:
Our local track has NHRA logos on the ir website and at the track and you can TnT anything and nobody comes around teching you. Probably the same in a race.
You could rock that thing all day there, just don't ferget to turn off the AC.
True dat!
Mine ran 13.30 with 3 people in it, A/C and the seat coolers on.
I kicked everyone out and turned everything off and it went 12.70
Posted By: 72Swinger
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 05:32 AM
Mopar finally gives us the end all be all Chevy eating beast we all knew they could and now we have a bunch of Ralph Naders on here bitchin about rollbars.......
Posted By: ChrgrCuda
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 05:38 AM
Quote:
Mopar finally gives us the end all be all Chevy eating beast we all knew they could and now we have a bunch of Ralph Naders on here bitchin about rollbars.......
Yep
Posted By: SpareParts
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 06:09 AM
Quote:
Mopar finally gives us the end all be all Chevy eating beast we all knew they could and now we have a bunch of Ralph Naders on here bitchin about rollbars.......
Exactly!!!! This is part of why I don't mention my ET here or anywhere lol
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 03:38 PM
Quote:I have the original sticker from Hendrix (the big Nascar Guy)dealership.And the HellCat will never run as Fast as any of the LS3 powered cars,well maybe it will if they come with a roll bar!*!Quote:
Both the ZR1 Corvette & Camaro and the Mustang will as well but not sure which one it is.My Calloway Corvette was suppose to be a 10.20-9.70 when delivered to Hendrix Chevy in NC. It now runs 9.38-9.42 in the 1/4 mile done about 3 weeks ago @ SGMSP.
That's not a factory production car. The Challenger Hellcat IS a 10 second factory production car.
They Daymn sure are you can go to any Chevy Dealership and buy one built by Chevy right off the lot.You can also buy a Caddy CTVS (I think CTVS is right) and they will do it.
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 03:44 PM
Quote:Quote:I have the original sticker from Hendrix (the big Nascar Guy)dealership.And the HellCat will never run as Fast as any of the LS3 powered cars,well maybe it will if they come with a roll bar!*!Quote:
Both the ZR1 Corvette & Camaro and the Mustang will as well but not sure which one it is.My Calloway Corvette was suppose to be a 10.20-9.70 when delivered to Hendrix Chevy in NC. It now runs 9.38-9.42 in the 1/4 mile done about 3 weeks ago @ SGMSP.
That's not a factory production car. The Challenger Hellcat IS a 10 second factory production car.
They Daymn sure are you can go to any Chevy Dealership and buy one built by Chevy right off the lot.You can also buy a Caddy CTVS (I think CTVS is right) and they will do it.
GM didn't build it!
And wait until Mr Norm and the others put bigger blowers on the Hellcat and make over 1000 WHP and sell it with a warranty, then what'll be your excuse?
And why are we comparing a Challenger to a tuner Corvette
Challenger Hellcat = Camaro ZL1 = GT500
Period!
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 03:53 PM
Quote:
Calloway Corvette is not a factory offering. Never heard of any factory Mustang, Camaro, or Corvette run 10's straight from dealership. Just like a Hennessy Viper is not a factory offering from Dodge, is it faster? Of course, but again not a factory offering.
My was Vette shipped to Rick Hendrix Chevy Dealer-Ship and sold off of his Show-Room floor,I have the original window sticker,Title & Bill Of Sale!Really who cares where or who builds it as long as you can buy it from the Dealership?
Wake up
this is 2014 not the roaring 80's! If you go back and read a couple of the above Post's you will see where a Man posted with a Big O'll A$$ Caddy that run's in the 10's. Don't take this statement the wrong way I was just picking at you. But believe it are not these cars are now that Fast and ride & drive as good as Lincoln Town Cars,I have both.
And if the HellCat is not killed by nay sayers Mopar is listening to what people say they do not want to build a car that no one will buy,they will be the Best Cars Mopar has ever built!
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 04:00 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:I have the original sticker from Hendrix (the big Nascar Guy)dealership.And the HellCat will never run as Fast as any of the LS3 powered cars,well maybe it will if they come with a roll bar!*!Quote:
Both the ZR1 Corvette & Camaro and the Mustang will as well but not sure which one it is.My Calloway Corvette was suppose to be a 10.20-9.70 when delivered to Hendrix Chevy in NC. It now runs 9.38-9.42 in the 1/4 mile done about 3 weeks ago @ SGMSP.
That's not a factory production car. The Challenger Hellcat IS a 10 second factory production car.
They Daymn sure are you can go to any Chevy Dealership and buy one built by Chevy right off the lot.You can also buy a Caddy CTVS (I think CTVS is right) and they will do it.
GM didn't build it!
And wait until Mr Norm and the others put bigger blowers on the Hellcat and make over 1000 WHP and sell it with a warranty, then what'll be your excuse?
As of the moment it is you not me that needs the excuse,where is the 1,000 RWH (not WHP)HellCat show me one!As for the 1,000 RWH Corvette I just happen to own one,and the only thing I will enjoy more than showing it to you is take you a Ride in it.LOL
And why are we comparing a Challenger to a tuner Corvette
Challenger Hellcat = Camaro ZL1 = GT500
Period!
PS everyone notice I answered his Question at the end of it my Computer is not working well & I could copy & paste it down here! Friday the Fed-X man will be bringing me the Latest Greatest computer $$$ can buy at this time.
Posted By: Airwoofer
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 04:37 PM
I think dropping weight will be how the Hellcats get hot rodded. 4400# dry is a tank.
Posted By: ChrgrCuda
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 07:14 PM
Quote:Quote:
Calloway Corvette is not a factory offering. Never heard of any factory Mustang, Camaro, or Corvette run 10's straight from dealership. Just like a Hennessy Viper is not a factory offering from Dodge, is it faster? Of course, but again not a factory offering.
My was Vette shipped to Rick Hendrix Chevy Dealer-Ship and sold off of his Show-Room floor,I have the original window sticker,Title & Bill Of Sale!Really who cares where or who builds it as long as you can buy it from the Dealership?
Wake up
But believe it are not these cars are now that Fast and ride & drive as good as Lincoln Town Cars,I have both.
And if the HellCat is not killed by nay sayers Mopar is listening to what people say they do not want to build a car that no one will buy,they will be the Best Cars Mopar has ever built! [/quote
Ok I give up. Your ho hum Calloway Corvette is a factory car that Chevrolet will warranty 100000 miles for the power train and nothing in Gods creation short of an F-16 will ever beat an LS3 anything. I'm sure the VIN on your Calloway reflects it came straight from Bowling Green Kentucky.
Posted By: 72Swinger
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/15/14 07:15 PM
Dropping weight is what Chevy and Ford are already saying they are going to come to bat with next.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/16/14 02:41 AM
Quote:Quote:I have the original sticker from Hendrix (the big Nascar Guy)dealership.And the HellCat will never run as Fast as any of the LS3 powered cars,well maybe it will if they come with a roll bar!*!Quote:
Both the ZR1 Corvette & Camaro and the Mustang will as well but not sure which one it is.My Calloway Corvette was suppose to be a 10.20-9.70 when delivered to Hendrix Chevy in NC. It now runs 9.38-9.42 in the 1/4 mile done about 3 weeks ago @ SGMSP.
That's not a factory production car. The Challenger Hellcat IS a 10 second factory production car.
They Daymn sure are you can go to any Chevy Dealership and buy one built by Chevy right off the lot.You can also buy a Caddy CTVS (I think CTVS is right) and they will do it.
You just don't get it.
The Hellcat is a stock factory production car, your modified Corvette is not, MY modified Jensen Interceptor is not, and a rocket ship blasting off in China? Nope, it's not either.
What is the fastest bone stock factory produced LS engine powered car's best time?
Reread that before you reply.
Bone stock. Factory produced.
No rockets.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/16/14 02:45 AM
Quote:Quote:
Calloway Corvette is not a factory offering. Never heard of any factory Mustang, Camaro, or Corvette run 10's straight from dealership. Just like a Hennessy Viper is not a factory offering from Dodge, is it faster? Of course, but again not a factory offering.
My was Vette shipped to Rick Hendrix Chevy Dealer-Ship and sold off of his Show-Room floor,I have the original window sticker,Title & Bill Of Sale!Really who cares where or who builds it as long as you can buy it from the Dealership?
OK, true.
This was bought from the dealership too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOto_KDrj4U
Posted By: Chris'sBarracuda
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/16/14 04:33 AM
Quote:
Mopar finally gives us the end all be all Chevy eating beast we all knew they could and now we have a bunch of Ralph Naders on here bitchin about rollbars.......
No.... Not at all..
Simply a question..
Some of us actually have to abide by NHRA rules and it looks as if this car falls into the 10.99 and under area..
So, I'm questioning whether NHRA will really tech these cars or simply let them pass through..
It gets even more strict after 135 mph..
Just the facts..
Chris..
Posted By: Dragula
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/16/14 11:50 AM
So you need a $100k car to go 10.80's?.....Sorry not sold on them.... 
Posted By: jim sciortino
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/16/14 12:06 PM
Quote:Right???
Mopar finally gives us the end all be all Chevy eating beast we all knew they could and now we have a bunch of Ralph Naders on here bitchin about rollbars.......
Sickening....
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/16/14 05:30 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:I have the original sticker from Hendrix (the big Nascar Guy)dealership.And the HellCat will never run as Fast as any of the LS3 powered cars,well maybe it will if they come with a roll bar!*!Quote:
Both the ZR1 Corvette & Camaro and the Mustang will as well but not sure which one it is.My Calloway Corvette was suppose to be a 10.20-9.70 when delivered to Hendrix Chevy in NC. It now runs 9.38-9.42 in the 1/4 mile done about 3 weeks ago @ SGMSP.
That's not a factory production car. The Challenger Hellcat IS a 10 second factory production car.
They Daymn sure are you can go to any Chevy Dealership and buy one built by Chevy right off the lot.You can also buy a Caddy CTVS (I think CTVS is right) and they will do it.
You just don't get it.
The Hellcat is a stock factory production car, your modified Corvette is not, MY modified Jensen Interceptor is not, and a rocket ship blasting off in China? Nope, it's not either.
What is the fastest bone stock factory produced LS engine powered car's best time?
Reread that before you reply.
Bone stock. Factory produced.
No rockets.
Wait till you own one that runs that then Reply,as of right now you or no one else owns one and if the negative talk about them keeps growing they more than likely will SH*T Can the whole project!
As for me I am very Proud of myself I got a least one or two of you pushing for and maybe even wanting one!!!
That is the only thing I was trying to get any of you to do....there was just a post on Small Block Mopars not having any good parts and there have been 1,000 of post about not enough good parts for Big Block ,and its not the Chevy/Ford peoples fault its the Mopar people fault they find fault in any and everything new anyone even thinks about making for us!
People before you say you do not want or would never own a HellCat Challenger,stop by your Local Chevy Dealership with your Wife or Girlfriend and test drive a ZR1 Camaro(you can forget about the ZR1 Vette you will be lucky if they even let you set in it)both of you set in it and let the seats all the way to the rear and tell the Sales person you would like to Test drive it,unless its a 98 lb Women they will not be able to climb in the back seat and ride with you.Then come back and tell everyone how you like it.
I'm talking about a Bone Stock.Factory Produced
Posted By: Dragula
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/16/14 06:19 PM
Quote:
People before you say you do not want or would never own a HellCat Challenger,stop by your Local Chevy Dealership with your Wife or Girlfriend and test drive a ZR1 Camaro(you can forget about the ZR1 Vette you will be lucky if they even let you set in it)both of you set in it and let the seats all the way to the rear and tell the Sales person you would like to Test drive it,unless its a 98 lb Women they will not be able to climb in the back seat and ride with you.Then come back and tell everyone how you like it.
Never happen...One, I will never buy anything new from a dealer again, two, I would never buy or want a corvette, three I would not pay$100k for a car that goes 10.80's, four I will not buy anything from lying idiot sales men, five I cannot even remotely deal with idiot service departments anymore...Sorry, but the dealership thing with high pressure sales tactics BS promises, and BS warrenties are never again going to be any part of buying another car/truck that sits in my driveway. They ruined it for themselves...
I would be very happy with a nice 36000 mile V6 Challenger I buy on the cheap, and a turbo and kick Hellcat butt though....And mine would have a roll bar and meet tech...
Posted By: Paul_Fancsali
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/16/14 07:44 PM
Great car but how long will it go before trans /rear end / engine take a puke? The older engines generally stayed together , unless beat to death or run with out oi.I love the new cars but the price of a house makes me think twice about spending the dough on a car
Posted By: 67Satty
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/16/14 07:45 PM
Quote:
You all that think the Hellcat will have 59k stocker are nutz. A loaded SRT-8 is close to that.
Dodge Announces Hellcat pricing:
http://blogs.hotrod.com/dodge-announces-...6#axzz37YdiKKwP
Posted By: Triple Threat
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/16/14 08:15 PM
Quote:Quote:
You all that think the Hellcat will have 59k stocker are nutz. A loaded SRT-8 is close to that.
Dodge Announces Hellcat pricing:
http://blogs.hotrod.com/dodge-announces-...6#axzz37YdiKKwP
There will be some dealer mark up, but they are priced way better than most people were speculating.
Posted By: SpareParts
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/16/14 09:54 PM
Quote:
So you need a $100k car to go 10.80's?.....Sorry not sold on them....
On your next 10 second pass crank the wheel as hard as you can to the left while grabbing the large disc brakes, then turn on the AC tell the GPS where you want dinner and drive straight there with all the White Snake you can handle hearing. I'm sure all of our old cars are capable lmao
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Corvettes suck - 07/17/14 02:39 AM
Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:I have the original sticker from Hendrix (the big Nascar Guy)dealership.And the HellCat will never run as Fast as any of the LS3 powered cars,well maybe it will if they come with a roll bar!*!Quote:
Both the ZR1 Corvette & Camaro and the Mustang will as well but not sure which one it is.My Calloway Corvette was suppose to be a 10.20-9.70 when delivered to Hendrix Chevy in NC. It now runs 9.38-9.42 in the 1/4 mile done about 3 weeks ago @ SGMSP.
That's not a factory production car. The Challenger Hellcat IS a 10 second factory production car.
They Daymn sure are you can go to any Chevy Dealership and buy one built by Chevy right off the lot.You can also buy a Caddy CTVS (I think CTVS is right) and they will do it.
You just don't get it.
The Hellcat is a stock factory production car, your modified Corvette is not, MY modified Jensen Interceptor is not, and a rocket ship blasting off in China? Nope, it's not either.
What is the fastest bone stock factory produced LS engine powered car's best time?
Reread that before you reply.
Bone stock. Factory produced.
No rockets.
Wait till you own one that runs that then Reply,as of right now you or no one else owns one and if the negative talk about them keeps growing they more than likely will SH*T Can the whole project!Quote:
Actually, no. A few dozen guys repeating their whining propaganda on MoParts really doesn't matter. AT ALL.
As for me I am very Proud of myself I got a least one or two of you pushing for and maybe even wanting one!!!Quote:
Actually, no. I have no interest in purchasing a newer car, I would if I won the lottery but I like older non-mainstream stuff. I doubt anyone here cares what you posted about the Hellcat Challengers.
That is the only thing I was trying to get any of you to do....there was just a post on Small Block Mopars not having any good parts and there have been 1,000 of post about not enough good parts for Big Block ,and its not the Chevy/Ford peoples fault its the Mopar people fault they find fault in any and everything new anyone even thinks about making for us!Quote:
Actually, no. MoPars have been kicking butt on brandX garbage for years. Nobody even LOOKS at Corvettes when a Viper is around, Racing bodies have tried to legislate MoPars out of their superiority, and brandX stuff just isn't interesting. Cheap maybe, but not ultra cool.
People before you say you do not want or would never own a HellCat Challenger,stop by your Local Chevy Dealership with your Wife or Girlfriend and test drive a ZR1 Camaro(you can forget about the ZR1 Vette you will be lucky if they even let you set in it)both of you set in it and let the seats all the way to the rear and tell the Sales person you would like to Test drive it,unless its a 98 lb Women they will not be able to climb in the back seat and ride with you.Then come back and tell everyone how you like it.
Quote:
Actually, no. Nobody cares about test driving newer Camaros or Corvettes except closet Chevy fanboys. Boring.
Posted By: Hemi Allstate
Re: Corvettes suck - 07/17/14 03:08 AM
Actually, no. Nobody cares about test driving newer Camaros or Corvettes except closet Chevy fanboys. Boring.
Boring and FUGLY!
Having grown up when a person could buy a real muscle car in the 60s and early 70s for $3 to $6k I cannot get excited enough to buy one of these modern techno wonders. If I want to run 10.80 I will slow my Hot Rod down.
Mark
Boring and FUGLY!
Having grown up when a person could buy a real muscle car in the 60s and early 70s for $3 to $6k I cannot get excited enough to buy one of these modern techno wonders. If I want to run 10.80 I will slow my Hot Rod down.
Mark
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Corvettes suck - 07/17/14 03:51 AM
Quote:
If I want to run 10.80 I will slow my Hot Rod down.
Mark
There we have it!!
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/17/14 03:11 PM
Quote:Quote:
So you need a $100k car to go 10.80's?.....Sorry not sold on them....
On your next 10 second pass crank the wheel as hard as you can to the left while grabbing the large disc brakes, then turn on the AC tell the GPS where you want dinner and drive straight there with all the White Snake you can handle hearing. I'm sure all of our old cars are capable lmao
??? I could go buy a 2011 Mustang GT add some boost and get that done pretty quick. Probably could do a used SRT-8 Charger as well. I'm also guessing it could be done for well under 100k on one of our old school rides. 100k is a lot of money.
Posted By: TheOtherDodge
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/17/14 03:26 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:
So you need a $100k car to go 10.80's?.....Sorry not sold on them....
On your next 10 second pass crank the wheel as hard as you can to the left while grabbing the large disc brakes, then turn on the AC tell the GPS where you want dinner and drive straight there with all the White Snake you can handle hearing. I'm sure all of our old cars are capable lmao
??? I could go buy a 2011 Mustang GT add some boost and get that done pretty quick. Probably could do a used SRT-8 Charger as well. I'm also guessing it could be done for well under 100k on one of our old school rides. 100k is a lot of money.
Here y'all go: http://www.civicforums.com/forums/194-ve...er-reduced.html
You can probably pick up this Honda for $2,000 add about $10,000 worth of engine/tranny/rear/suspension and go 10.50 all for under $15,000. That will meet your goal easily!
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/17/14 04:18 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:
So you need a $100k car to go 10.80's?.....Sorry not sold on them....
On your next 10 second pass crank the wheel as hard as you can to the left while grabbing the large disc brakes, then turn on the AC tell the GPS where you want dinner and drive straight there with all the White Snake you can handle hearing. I'm sure all of our old cars are capable lmao
??? I could go buy a 2011 Mustang GT add some boost and get that done pretty quick. Probably could do a used SRT-8 Charger as well. I'm also guessing it could be done for well under 100k on one of our old school rides. 100k is a lot of money.
Here y'all go: http://www.civicforums.com/forums/194-ve...er-reduced.html
You can probably pick up this Honda for $2,000 add about $10,000 worth of engine/tranny/rear/suspension and go 10.50 all for under $15,000. That will meet your goal easily!
I'll just take your Dakota...ok?
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: Corvettes suck - 07/17/14 05:25 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:I have the original sticker from Hendrix (the big Nascar Guy)dealership.And the HellCat will never run as Fast as any of the LS3 powered cars,well maybe it will if they come with a roll bar!*!Quote:
Both the ZR1 Corvette & Camaro and the Mustang will as well but not sure which one it is.My Calloway Corvette was suppose to be a 10.20-9.70 when delivered to Hendrix Chevy in NC. It now runs 9.38-9.42 in the 1/4 mile done about 3 weeks ago @ SGMSP.
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That's not a factory production car. The Challenger Hellcat IS a 10 second factory production car.
They Daymn sure are you can go to any Chevy Dealership and buy one built by Chevy right off the lot.You can also buy a Caddy CTVS (I think CTVS is right) and they will do it.
You just don't get it.
The Hellcat is a stock factory production car, your modified Corvette is not, MY modified Jensen Interceptor is not, and a rocket ship blasting off in China? Nope, it's not either.
What is the fastest bone stock factory produced LS engine powered car's best time?
Reread that before you reply.
Bone stock. Factory produced.
No rockets.
Wait till you own one that runs that then Reply,as of right now you or no one else owns one and if the negative talk about them keeps growing they more than likely will SH*T Can the whole project!Quote:
Actually, no. A few dozen guys repeating their whining propaganda on MoParts really doesn't matter. AT ALL.
As for me I am very Proud of myself I got a least one or two of you pushing for and maybe even wanting one!!!Quote:
Actually, no. I have no interest in purchasing a newer car, I would if I won the lottery but I like older non-mainstream stuff. I doubt anyone here cares what you posted about the Hellcat Challengers.
THANKS THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO SAY!*! You do not or can not afford one so you do not not want anyone else to have one.
To be Honest I doubt that I would sell my Vette to buy one,but I would like to be able to if I chose to.
That is the only thing I was trying to get any of you to do....there was just a post on Small Block Mopars not having any good parts and there have been 1,000 of post about not enough good parts for Big Block ,and its not the Chevy/Ford peoples fault its the Mopar people fault they find fault in any and everything new anyone even thinks about making for us!Quote:
Actually, no. MoPars have been kicking butt on brandX garbage for years. Nobody even LOOKS at Corvettes when a Viper is around, Racing bodies have tried to legislate MoPars out of their superiority, and brandX stuff just isn't interesting. Cheap maybe, but not ultra cool.
Anyone who does not like a Corvette is Un-American !
You do not have much knowledge when it comes to these cars do you?
Do you own or have ever owned either a Viper or Corvette? I went to NC to buy a Viper and when I found out he was only selling it to buy a Vette,I went and checked it out as well and you can say the rest is History I now own the Vette,and had to pay $1500.00 more for it.
People before you say you do not want or would never own a HellCat Challenger,stop by your Local Chevy Dealership with your Wife or Girlfriend and test drive a ZR1 Camaro(you can forget about the ZR1 Vette you will be lucky if they even let you set in it)both of you set in it and let the seats all the way to the rear and tell the Sales person you would like to Test drive it,unless its a 98 lb Women they will not be able to climb in the back seat and ride with you.Then come back and tell everyone how you like it.Quote:
Actually, no. Nobody cares about test driving newer Camaros or Corvettes except closet Chevy fanboys. Boring.
:thumb
You say that only because you have never driven one and do not know just how Fast and how streetable these cars or and I am sure the HellCat would be right up there with them.And they come with a Factory Warranty!
Posted By: 1mean340
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/17/14 06:12 PM
The hellcat is pretty freaking amazing. Really pushing the limits of what you could get in a FACTORY heavy weight non-sports car with a warranty.
That said, it also really doesn't surprise me much. Any of these new generation small blocks (LS3/LT1, 5.0, HEMI) would not be far behind with some bolt on boost. In the late model chevy world, guys have been building 700hp daily drivable street machines from even the earlier generation LS stuff for years. I suspect the same is true with mopar 6.1 hemi guys. Once you started getting heads flowing well over 300cfm's out of the factory, the whole small block world went crazy lol
I have been building a 396 stroker from a 96 LT1 for boost over the years. I am planning on hitting 650 RWHP on 12-14 psi. From what I have seen from guys doing setups similar to mine with the same heads/similar cams, it shouldn't be too hard....it's not exactly an exotic "pushing the envelope" build anymore. Granted the 650whp number guys are hitting with these similar setups are with pretty lumpy (yet still hydraulic) cams and a decent amount of boost, but this is also a gen 2 SBC we are talking about here with head flow being 295cfm at .600, maybe 300 if you are lucky. If guys are building those motors for 750fwhp with practically daily drivable street manners (if you don't mind some choppy cam lope) then it's no surprise here that a late gen hemi with off the chart head flow specs and all sorts of other cool technologies can do the same in an even milder setup.
Hate to say it, but the days of old school big blocks and small blocks are probably dead and gone with the prices of some of the late gen stuff dropping. You can make more power with a cam only LS3, 6.1 hemi or 5.0 than most guys make with full race LA strokers.
As far as the price goes, I am sure it is no joke. I would/could never spend that much on a car and like always, I am sure the same thing could be built in one of our garages for cheaper... Important to remember though, you're not just buying a 10 second car. This car probably probably has some amazing braking and cornering power...and on top of that, I'd be willing to bet the ride quality is top notch. One thing you notice when driving these new cars is how docile they feel, suspension wise, yet they can still be thrown into turns like a full road race car. You could probably build something for much cheaper that will perform better all around, but I'd be willing to bet it won't be as comfortable to drive.
That said, it also really doesn't surprise me much. Any of these new generation small blocks (LS3/LT1, 5.0, HEMI) would not be far behind with some bolt on boost. In the late model chevy world, guys have been building 700hp daily drivable street machines from even the earlier generation LS stuff for years. I suspect the same is true with mopar 6.1 hemi guys. Once you started getting heads flowing well over 300cfm's out of the factory, the whole small block world went crazy lol
I have been building a 396 stroker from a 96 LT1 for boost over the years. I am planning on hitting 650 RWHP on 12-14 psi. From what I have seen from guys doing setups similar to mine with the same heads/similar cams, it shouldn't be too hard....it's not exactly an exotic "pushing the envelope" build anymore. Granted the 650whp number guys are hitting with these similar setups are with pretty lumpy (yet still hydraulic) cams and a decent amount of boost, but this is also a gen 2 SBC we are talking about here with head flow being 295cfm at .600, maybe 300 if you are lucky. If guys are building those motors for 750fwhp with practically daily drivable street manners (if you don't mind some choppy cam lope) then it's no surprise here that a late gen hemi with off the chart head flow specs and all sorts of other cool technologies can do the same in an even milder setup.
Hate to say it, but the days of old school big blocks and small blocks are probably dead and gone with the prices of some of the late gen stuff dropping. You can make more power with a cam only LS3, 6.1 hemi or 5.0 than most guys make with full race LA strokers.
As far as the price goes, I am sure it is no joke. I would/could never spend that much on a car and like always, I am sure the same thing could be built in one of our garages for cheaper... Important to remember though, you're not just buying a 10 second car. This car probably probably has some amazing braking and cornering power...and on top of that, I'd be willing to bet the ride quality is top notch. One thing you notice when driving these new cars is how docile they feel, suspension wise, yet they can still be thrown into turns like a full road race car. You could probably build something for much cheaper that will perform better all around, but I'd be willing to bet it won't be as comfortable to drive.
Posted By: MattW
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/17/14 11:04 PM
Quote:
The hellcat is pretty freaking amazing. Really pushing the limits of what you could get in a FACTORY heavy weight non-sports car with a warranty.
That said, it also really doesn't surprise me much. Any of these new generation small blocks (LS3/LT1, 5.0, HEMI) would not be far behind with some bolt on boost. In the late model chevy world, guys have been building 700hp daily drivable street machines from even the earlier generation LS stuff for years. I suspect the same is true with mopar 6.1 hemi guys. Once you started getting heads flowing well over 300cfm's out of the factory, the whole small block world went crazy lol
I have been building a 396 stroker from a 96 LT1 for boost over the years. I am planning on hitting 650 RWHP on 12-14 psi. From what I have seen from guys doing setups similar to mine with the same heads/similar cams, it shouldn't be too hard....it's not exactly an exotic "pushing the envelope" build anymore. Granted the 650whp number guys are hitting with these similar setups are with pretty lumpy (yet still hydraulic) cams and a decent amount of boost, but this is also a gen 2 SBC we are talking about here with head flow being 295cfm at .600, maybe 300 if you are lucky. If guys are building those motors for 750fwhp with practically daily drivable street manners (if you don't mind some choppy cam lope) then it's no surprise here that a late gen hemi with off the chart head flow specs and all sorts of other cool technologies can do the same in an even milder setup.
Hate to say it, but the days of old school big blocks and small blocks are probably dead and gone with the prices of some of the late gen stuff dropping. You can make more power with a cam only LS3, 6.1 hemi or 5.0 than most guys make with full race LA strokers.
As far as the price goes, I am sure it is no joke. I would/could never spend that much on a car and like always, I am sure the same thing could be built in one of our garages for cheaper... Important to remember though, you're not just buying a 10 second car. This car probably probably has some amazing braking and cornering power...and on top of that, I'd be willing to bet the ride quality is top notch. One thing you notice when driving these new cars is how docile they feel, suspension wise, yet they can still be thrown into turns like a full road race car. You could probably build something for much cheaper that will perform better all around, but I'd be willing to bet it won't be as comfortable to drive.
I thought I just wasted 5 minutes of my life reading the previous posts.
Glad to see somebody figured it out.
IF the price is 100,000.00 then they fail on that aspect. If it's 60,000.00 then it will sell.
Matt
Posted By: 72Swinger
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/18/14 07:19 AM
They announced pricing the other day, $60,900.
Posted By: 69charger440_6pa
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/18/14 08:08 PM
Quote:
What factory GM or Ford runs that fast or faster off show room floor again? Just asking, not trying to start an argument.
May be a little late of a reply but stock ZR1's on stock tires have gone as fast as 10.66 @132 and 10.26 @135 with drag radials. By no means am I trying to bash the hellcat just putting the info out there. That hellcat is sweet. Wonder what they will do to step up the vipers power since it is their halo car.
Posted By: MattW
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/18/14 10:08 PM
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What factory GM or Ford runs that fast or faster off show room floor again? Just asking, not trying to start an argument.
May be a little late of a reply but stock ZR1's on stock tires have gone as fast as 10.66 @132 and 10.26 @135 with drag radials. By no means am I trying to bash the hellcat just putting the info out there. That hellcat is sweet. Wonder what they will do to step up the vipers power since it is their halo car.
Very true BUUUUUUUUUT LOL
I think the ZR1 is way more car and way more expensive.
ZR1 vs Viper
Matt
Posted By: TheOtherDodge
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/18/14 10:29 PM
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What factory GM or Ford runs that fast or faster off show room floor again? Just asking, not trying to start an argument.
May be a little late of a reply but stock ZR1's on stock tires have gone as fast as 10.66 @132 and 10.26 @135 with drag radials. By no means am I trying to bash the hellcat just putting the info out there. That hellcat is sweet. Wonder what they will do to step up the vipers power since it is their halo car.
This was done by an individual (who knows how stock it really was) not by any testing magazines or even Chevy themselves.
The fastest "official" bone stock times publish I have ever seen is 11.40's.
Maybe when someone gets one he will be able to run some 10.6's after playing around with it some too, keeping it bone stock, wink, wink.
Posted By: MNobody
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/19/14 04:01 AM
I may need more boost
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/19/14 06:00 AM
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What factory GM or Ford runs that fast or faster off show room floor again? Just asking, not trying to start an argument.
May be a little late of a reply but stock ZR1's on stock tires have gone as fast as 10.66 @132 and 10.26 @135 with drag radials. By no means am I trying to bash the hellcat just putting the info out there. That hellcat is sweet. Wonder what they will do to step up the vipers power since it is their halo car.
This was done by an individual (who knows how stock it really was) not by any testing magazines or even Chevy themselves.
The fastest "official" bone stock times publish I have ever seen is 11.40's.
Maybe when someone gets one he will be able to run some 10.6's after playing around with it some too, keeping it bone stock, wink, wink.
The stick car ran 10.91, the 10.80 in the auto is "laughingly" underrated.
We'll all see first hand when they get into the public. 10.50's in the 8-speed with drag radials / slicks is what I am thinking and 10.80's for the 6-speed with the same.
More boost? Much quicker.
Posted By: jim sciortino
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/19/14 12:20 PM
Quote:I'm sure some "stock" (according to their owners) Hellcats will eventually show up running 10.50s, or better with non-stock tires.Quote:
What factory GM or Ford runs that fast or faster off show room floor again? Just asking, not trying to start an argument.
May be a little late of a reply but stock ZR1's on stock tires have gone as fast as 10.66 @132 and 10.26 @135 with drag radials. By no means am I trying to bash the hellcat just putting the info out there. That hellcat is sweet. Wonder what they will do to step up the vipers power since it is their halo car.
Posted By: 69charger440_6pa
Re: 2015 Hellcat Challenger goes 10.8@126 VIDEO - 07/19/14 10:02 PM
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What factory GM or Ford runs that fast or faster off show room floor again? Just asking, not trying to start an argument.
May be a little late of a reply but stock ZR1's on stock tires have gone as fast as 10.66 @132 and 10.26 @135 with drag radials. By no means am I trying to bash the hellcat just putting the info out there. That hellcat is sweet. Wonder what they will do to step up the vipers power since it is their halo car.
This was done by an individual (who knows how stock it really was) not by any testing magazines or even Chevy themselves.
The fastest "official" bone stock times publish I have ever seen is 11.40's.
Maybe when someone gets one he will be able to run some 10.6's after playing around with it some too, keeping it bone stock, wink, wink.
Yes you are right those are "unofficial" numbers from owners of the vehicle. All I was trying to put out there was that there are other vehicles that are capable of running those kind of times straight off the showroom floor.