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Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP
Posted By: SRT6776
Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 04:28 AM
11.6 lbs of boost, 14,600 max supercharger RPM. 6.2L displacement destroked 6.4L with Apache heads (300+ CFM).
The blown 6.2L in the Camaro ZL1 makes 580 HP at 9psi and 638 HP at 10.5psi in the C6 Vette ZR1.
Most guesses for the Hellcat are 680 HP. At the moment Dodge is only saying "Over 600 HP and 575 lb-ft".
Further, Challenger Hellcats have supposedly nailed 202 MPH in testing by Chrysler.
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 04:33 AM
inside sources said it made 666hp..hense the name. Hellcat..but they will call it 665hp...to avoid controversy
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 04:37 AM
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inside sources said it made 666hp..hense the name. Hellcat..but they will call it 665hp...to avoid controversy
According to aero charts it takes 700 HP to go 214 in a Challenger. (182 in the 470 HP NA 6.4L as a baseline).
In the least it'll make more than the GT500 662 HP.
Posted By: Uberpube
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 04:38 AM
It'll make 645 hp.. But in typical new mopar fashion, the car will weigh so much, it'll be stuck in the 12's.
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 04:40 AM
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inside sources said it made 666hp..hense the name. Hellcat..but they will call it 665hp...to avoid controversy
According to aero charts it takes 700 HP to go 200 in a Challenger. (182 in the 470 HP NA 6.4L as a baseline)
i dont think they where limited to 11psi of boost on those passes..are they?
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 04:43 AM
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inside sources said it made 666hp..hense the name. Hellcat..but they will call it 665hp...to avoid controversy
According to aero charts it takes 700 HP to go 200 in a Challenger. (182 in the 470 HP NA 6.4L as a baseline)
i dont think they where limited to 11psi of boost on those passes..are they?
I edited my post (got the numbers wrong), 700 HP to go 214 MPH, 600 to go 198 and 470 to go 182.
What would be the point of running it at higher boost?
Posted By: 72Swinger
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 07:11 AM
Well they already said it is the most powerful engine to ever come out of Chrysler. The Viper V10 makes 640hp already so? Im gonna go with the 666hp number too.
Posted By: GTX MATT
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 07:16 AM
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Posted By: cudadoug
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 07:39 AM
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It'll make 645 hp.. But in typical new mopar fashion, the car will weigh so much, it'll be stuck in the 12's.
Too funny and too true! The new Hot Rod boasts that "it runs 12's!"
Or the other answer to the HP question is: Still not enough to outrun a GT500 or a ZL1.
Face it, other than the G2 Hemi intro and the Hemi Darts and Cudas, we've always been a day late to the party.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 08:18 AM
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Face it, other than the G2 Hemi intro and the Hemi Darts and Cudas, we've always been a day late to the party.
Yes.
Like 1 hp per cubic inch optional for the big 3. Or 1 hp standard equipment in a big 3 car. Or hydraulic brakes. Or a high performance engine in a midsized car (musclecar). Or a ponycar. Or anti-lock brakes. MoPar has always been a day late to the party!!
Posted By: dizuster
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 02:21 PM
Based on the rumors I've heard around here, the can basically pick any 6xx hp number they want.
Posted By: OUTLAWD
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 02:53 PM
I've heard those same rumors, all it takes is a pully swap and cal change...also heard more than the camaro, less than the GT500, and more than the viper.
I am more interested in the price tag
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 03:01 PM
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I've heard those same rumors, all it takes is a pully swap and cal change...also heard more than the camaro, less than the GT500, and more than the viper.
I am more interested in the price tag
what is the saying?..."if you have to ask you can't afford it" Too much I'm sure. It can make all the power in the world but if it can't put it to the ground what good is it? Or if it does and the parts can't take the abuse what good is it? Is the rear, u-joints, shafts going to take a 6k launch with nice sticky tires? If so it should run well. I raced w/ 2 Mustang guys. Both cars were loaded (not light weight) They hammered down the track well into the 10.90's. This is with no serious mods. If the new Challey can't do that it's not worth the price.
Posted By: Dragula
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 03:24 PM
At the dealer marked up price rates, the question you ask really doesn't matter...At least to me anyways. When dealers want +$52k for a used one, I have ZERO interest in the latest offering.
I would much rather have a V6 one with the 8-speed trans and no price mark up...
Posted By: cl440
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 03:28 PM
With a supposed $100,000.00 plus price tag it could be a 1000hp and it still wouldn't matter I cant afford one!
Posted By: Airwoofer
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 03:51 PM
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I've heard those same rumors, all it takes is a pully swap and cal change...also heard more than the camaro, less than the GT500, and more than the viper.
I am more interested in the price tag
That's IF they release or unlock the code. Don't they have the new challys locked up somehow?
Posted By: rickseeman
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 04:59 PM
You might need a "drop in" Dana 60 and a real driveshaft with u joints.
Posted By: fullmetaljacket
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 06:22 PM
Hey, lets get Dr Diff on this right away. He'll make sure those Hellcats will keep their bearings tight. LOL.
I think the Hellcats are going to ruffle some feathers within the competition. Here comes the new Muscle car wars. Buy 'em while you can.
Posted By: OUTLAWD
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 06:34 PM
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That's IF they release or unlock the code. Don't they have the new challys locked up somehow?
My statement was in response to this:
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Based on the rumors I've heard around here, the can basically pick any 6xx hp number they want.
saying that chrysler can still do a decent amount of tweaking to get what they want out of it
I know I can't afford one, or justify owning one rather...I'd end up with a C5 Z06 for a fraction of the price first (runs and hides)
Posted By: mike s
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 07:10 PM
Posted By: WO23Coronet
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 07:37 PM
If they're putting 11.6 PSI through it I'm going to guess 670ish, based on the Chevy #'s Malicious posted. I'm guessing it'll be as fast in the 1/4 as the GT500, yes the Challenger is heavier but that may help with traction. What kind of PSI does the GT500 have?
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 07:45 PM
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If they're putting 11.6 PSI through it I'm going to guess 670ish, based on the Chevy #'s Malicious posted. I'm guessing it'll be as fast in the 1/4 as the GT500, yes the Challenger is heavier but that may help with traction. What kind of PSI does the GT500 have?
And weight tends to break parts.. sooner or latter
they will have to lighten up all of those cars... I
know when I was working there that was a big thing
Posted By: fullmetaljacket
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/29/14 10:06 PM
Weight reduction? who's calling.
Posted By: MattW
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 01:03 AM
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inside sources said it made 666hp..hense the name. Hellcat..but they will call it 665hp...to avoid controversy
According to aero charts it takes 700 HP to go 200 in a Challenger. (182 in the 470 HP NA 6.4L as a baseline)
i dont think they where limited to 11psi of boost on those passes..are they?
I edited my post (got the numbers wrong), 700 HP to go 214 MPH, 600 to go 198 and 470 to go 182.
What would be the point of running it at higher boost?
Do we have any more information on the block?
Are they using the 6.4 block?
Never will be able to justify buying one but don't care. If that block will take a blower if will handle anything I could throw at it. If its the same block its available in the 2500 and 3500 truck.
Matt
Posted By: dvw
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 01:19 AM
There expensive for 2 reasons. Profit and the government. They can only sell a few due to mileage requirements. So as a business they make a premium. I've driven them, but can't afford one either. If they wanted to, the power level could go way past 700 and live. But we know that the Viper and Ferrari are at the top of the food chain. Think of it this way. Use Chryslers technology and parts to build yourself a 1000 hp in something that weighs 3500lbs, you'd have one heck of a street car.
Doug
Posted By: AlexP
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 03:04 AM
The cars Mercedes roots, wiring and safety will never let that car be lightweight.
Posted By: BobR
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 03:13 AM
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There expensive for 2 reasons. Profit and the government. They can only sell a few due to mileage requirements. So as a business they make a premium. I've driven them, but can't afford one either. If they wanted to, the power level could go way past 700 and live. But we know that the Viper and Ferrari are at the top of the food chain. Think of it this way. Use Chryslers technology and parts to build yourself a 1000 hp in something that weighs 3500lbs, you'd have one heck of a street car.
Doug
I got my new 2013 ZR1 for $108,000.00 which was 19 grand under sticker. It does a lot of things well but traction on the stock cup tires is non-existent. If the Hellcat does have 666 hp I'd seriously look at one assuming it isn't just a great motor in an average car. I have a 2013 SRT8 Jeep and while the basic car is good the lousy detail and cheap part factor makes it only average.
Posted By: 64Post
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 03:34 AM
Advertised power will be detuned to 610HP in an effort to keep the innards from being spit out on the asphalt.
Posted By: SLOW67
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 03:52 AM
I can still buy a new 5.0, add a blower, tune, and slicks an out run it....for thousands less
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 04:51 AM
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There expensive for 2 reasons. Profit and the government. They can only sell a few due to mileage requirements. So as a business they make a premium. I've driven them, but can't afford one either. If they wanted to, the power level could go way past 700 and live. But we know that the Viper and Ferrari are at the top of the food chain. Think of it this way. Use Chryslers technology and parts to build yourself a 1000 hp in something that weighs 3500lbs, you'd have one heck of a street car.
Doug
I got my new 2013 ZR1 for $108,000.00 which was 19 grand under sticker. It does a lot of things well but traction on the stock cup tires is non-existent. If the Hellcat does have 666 hp I'd seriously look at one assuming it isn't just a great motor in an average car. I have a 2013 SRT8 Jeep and while the basic car is good the lousy detail and cheap part factor makes it only average.
Nitto NTO5 Drag Radial is a good street/strip tire for the Vette's.My Super-Charged Calloway Vette makes over a 1,000 Rear Wheel Horse-Power on the chassis dyno.
Posted By: 72Swinger
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 09:52 AM
From what I've read about it, this thing is gonna be built for abuse. It has its own transmissions, diff with only one ratio available, block, forged pistons,rods,crank, huge oil coolers, factory cold air through the d-side inside headlight, electric cutouts and its own 15.5" front brakes. Also it has been durability tested to withstand all out 20 minute track day sessions in desert heat without any power reduction. Most guys on here will say if it doesn't run 10's off the dealer lot its junk, this thing isn't built to dominate the strip, its being built as the ultimate musclecar.
Posted By: 64HemiSavoy
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 11:47 AM
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It'll make 645 hp.. But in typical new mopar fashion, the car will weigh so much, it'll be stuck in the 12's.
Come out of your Mopar hating dream world.... Challenger stockers in the 9's od 10 inch slicks and if I remember right Barton ran some 8's in AA/SA trimwithout supercharger.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 01:28 PM
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It'll make 645 hp.. But in typical new mopar fashion, the car will weigh so much, it'll be stuck in the 12's.
Come out of your Mopar hating dream world.... Challenger stockers in the 9's od 10 inch slicks and if I remember right Barton ran some 8's in AA/SA trimwithout supercharger.
a gutted out race car w/ a pro built engine, powerglide and solid rear is not the same as production car. I've seen plenty of R/T challey and SRT-8's at the track, some w/ mods haven't seen one break into the 10's yet. Most are in the high 12 range, some pop high 11's. That Hellcat thing I'd hope would be into the 10's, as mentioned before The S/C'd Mustangs have been there for a few years now.
Posted By: Bad340fish
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 01:42 PM
IF they do a drag pak offering with the hellcat engine that should keep things interesting.
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 02:34 PM
Is the Hellcat just a engine or is it a car at this stage?Also over 600hp from the factory is more HP than a lot of Big Block & Small Block
engines that have been built and are more Race than Street engines in street cars.
Posted By: fullmetaljacket
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 02:39 PM
Car as a package. Aside from the engine and trans themselves, special brakes, calipers, wheels, rear end, shocks, hood, air intakes/exhausts, front grille, interior, emblems, etc.
Posted By: BobR
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/30/14 03:48 PM
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There expensive for 2 reasons. Profit and the government. They can only sell a few due to mileage requirements. So as a business they make a premium. I've driven them, but can't afford one either. If they wanted to, the power level could go way past 700 and live. But we know that the Viper and Ferrari are at the top of the food chain. Think of it this way. Use Chryslers technology and parts to build yourself a 1000 hp in something that weighs 3500lbs, you'd have one heck of a street car.
Doug
I got my new 2013 ZR1 for $108,000.00 which was 19 grand under sticker. It does a lot of things well but traction on the stock cup tires is non-existent. If the Hellcat does have 666 hp I'd seriously look at one assuming it isn't just a great motor in an average car. I have a 2013 SRT8 Jeep and while the basic car is good the lousy detail and cheap part factor makes it only average.
Nitto NTO5 Drag Radial is a good street/strip tire for the Vette's.My Super-Charged Calloway Vette makes over a 1,000 Rear Wheel Horse-Power on the chassis dyno.
I have those on my SC Cobra replica. 700 F/W HP. Never hammered it so I don't know how well they work.
Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/31/14 03:13 AM
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What kind of PSI does the GT500 have?
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Posted By: SRT6776
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/31/14 03:17 AM
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Is the Hellcat just a engine or is it a car at this stage?Also over 600hp from the factory is more HP than a lot of Big Block & Small Block
engines that have been built and are more Race than Street engines in street cars.
Its an engine that will be available in the Challenger and Charger.
Challenger Hellcat
Posted By: demon440
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/31/14 05:44 AM
Why is the motor a 6.2 L ?
They make a 6.4L , why not use that?
No replacement for displacement.
Posted By: Valiant_Showoff
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/31/14 12:41 PM
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Why is the motor a 6.2 L ?
They make a 6.4L , why not use that?
No replacement for displacement.
Same engine, just de-stroked slightly.
Posted By: hemidup
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 05/31/14 02:52 PM
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Why is the motor a 6.2 L ?
They make a 6.4L , why not use that?
No replacement for displacement.
Maybe for a taller piston so they can move the top ring down and keep from using an oil support ring 
Posted By: CokeBottleKid
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 06/01/14 07:57 AM
It's modern mopar, you need to underestimate by a long shot. If they say it'll be at least 600hp that means when they announce it, it will be 600. But in reality it'll be 550 and the car will run mid 12s like has already been covered in this thread
. Oh and BTW it'll be 70k
Posted By: WO23Coronet
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 06/01/14 12:15 PM
A 392 car will run mid 12's, the HellCat will have 200 ish more HP.
Posted By: 64Post
Re: Lets play guess the 6.2L supercharged Hellcats HP - 06/02/14 06:52 AM
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A 392 car will run mid 12's, the HellCat will have 200 isn more HP.
OK, low 12s... spinning.
