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Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's?

Posted By: DodgeCharger

Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/01/14 01:43 AM

My son took his car to the High School drags again this year. He ran 14.60's at just under 101 mph. Pretty consistently. In one run he missed 3rd gear and still ran over 100 mph. The car spins in first and second and he lets off pretty much when he shifts.
I think this car should run 13's and I am going to take it to the track on Saturday and try and prove it. I was always told that if a car runs over 100 mph in the quarter mile it should run at least 13.90's. The car is a front wheel drive stick but I still think with that mile per hour I should be able to get it there. What do you guys think? Will it be easy for an experienced driver to get a car with this much power to weight in the 13's? I plan on flat shifting the car. I think that alone will make a big difference and expect to even gain mph.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/01/14 01:49 AM

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Posted By: cagebob1

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/01/14 02:02 AM

my son kept breaking his neon when he tried that...front wheel drives are to fragile to take that kind of abuse! unless you spend big money!!!
Posted By: BSB67

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/01/14 02:07 AM

No experience with front wheel drive.

My experience with rear wheel drive cars is that most anything with that kind of mph, should 60 ft in the 2.0s sec. in full street trim with street gearing. That should result in 13.80s - 13.90s.
Posted By: 1980volare

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/01/14 02:18 AM

Srt4?
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/01/14 02:31 AM

He has a Shelby Charger. From what I am finding out based on the mph it runs better than average for one of these cars.
Posted By: gch

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/01/14 02:50 AM

Front wheel drive cars are hard to hook.My 3.5L 5 speed Altima just blows the front tires off and then goes into wheel hop if I leave above 3500 rpm.The key is getting it to launch.Try slipping the clutch a little and playing with the air pressure to get it to hook.If you don't get it in the 60ft you wont make 13's.
Posted By: Twostick

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/01/14 04:07 AM

My 4800 C-body did 13.92 at 101. 2.23 60'. 2.76 Sure Grip 275/60/15 Cooper Cobra tires.

Kevin
Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/01/14 05:25 AM

I have no experience with FWD cars, but I do know from watching some of them at the track that they will MPH high, and 60 slow for a given ET compared to a typcial Rear drive V8. So.... If it were a rear drive car at 101, I'd expect it to be into the 13's. But a FWD running 101...... Not so sure the rule applies. 14.60's sounds about right.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/01/14 07:27 PM

But a FWD running 101...... Not so sure the rule applies. 14.60's sounds about right.




I will find out Saturday. I talked to a parts dealer that specializes in these car and felt 13'S should be easy. He told me a few tricks to try and get some drag radials and the car should be in the 12's.
I can not believe how much easier it is to get one of these turbo car to improve ET.
Basically if you need a little more power give it more fuel and turn up the boost.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/01/14 08:52 PM

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But a FWD running 101...... Not so sure the rule applies. 14.60's sounds about right.




I will find out Saturday. I talked to a parts dealer that specializes in these car and felt 13'S should be easy. He told me a few tricks to try and get some drag radials and the car should be in the 12's.
I can not believe how much easier it is to get one of these turbo car to improve ET.
Basically if you need a little more power give it more fuel and turn up the boost.



It is pretty easy IF you can tell the puter to add
fuel... if you have ever watched a FWD car leave thats
quick you will see the front tires are basically flat
and as soon as they leave the centrifugal force turns
the tire round... they DONT want weight transfer
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/03/14 01:06 PM

I put spacers in the rear to raise it about and inch. I took it out for a test drive. First and second gear spin like you are on a patch of ice. I know the track will have better grip but the car definitely needs a lot more tire.
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/03/14 05:05 PM

Buy a cheap used pair of slicks for it, but to get the most from them he's gonna have to dump it pretty high, and your axles will be on borrowed time then.
Posted By: OhioMopar

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/03/14 05:14 PM

I think GDonovan would be the one to ask. He's had a few quick fwd cars.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/04/14 02:48 AM

I couldn't get it done. I was quicker than my sons best times by 2 tenths and 1 mph faster but after 4 runs I decided to save the car for a time when I have tires on it that will hook it up.
This thing spins through first and second like you are on ice. The track prep wasn't the best but it wasn't terrible either. Best run was a 14.40 @ 101.9 mph. With traction it should go well into the 13's
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/04/14 02:49 AM

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Buy a cheap used pair of slicks for it, but to get the most from them he's gonna have to dump it pretty high, and your axles will be on borrowed time then.



I put heavy duty after market axle in the car.
Posted By: hemicar1971

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/04/14 05:37 AM

Not sure about the older Turbos Dodges, but our stock SRT4 that had good tires ran 13.6 no mods. If it is a turbo you can not go by the times a real wheel drive will run, ET compared to MPH.
Posted By: ccarson

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/04/14 02:50 PM

Just for a point of reference the New Focus ST's run's 14.7 @ 96 mph
So I think your right there.
I was pitted next to a few young guys with SRT4 Neon's a few years ago with Drag Radials and a couple of mods they were in the high 12's.
they really pissed off a few of the Restored Muscle Car guy's in the trophy classes
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/04/14 03:31 PM

This little car would blow away 383 and 340 cars. It would take a good running 440 to beat it.
I'm getting drag radials. It will run well into the 13's with drag radials. Then I'm going to turn up the boost and shoot for the 12's. That is as far as I will take it with the stock motor.
I ran a new Camaro ZL 1 yesterday. He didn't beat me by much. A little traction and I most likely would have beat him. He was running drag radials and the tires were more than double the width of the tires on the GLHS.
Posted By: dustergirl340

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/04/14 03:56 PM

I don't know anything about racing FWD cars but I ran a 12.91 @ 103 MPH so that 101.9 MPH is well into 13 second territory.
Posted By: 451Mopar

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/04/14 07:33 PM

sticky tires will help reduce ET, but on a front wheel drive be prepared for half shaft breakage, and reduced transmission life.
Posted By: furious70

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/05/14 05:51 PM

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Buy a cheap used pair of slicks for it, but to get the most from them he's gonna have to dump it pretty high, and your axles will be on borrowed time then.



I put heavy duty after market axle in the car.


Does it still have the 525 trans in it? Does it have the girdle and other parts? I'd be more worried about it than the axles.
Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/05/14 07:38 PM

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This little car would blow away 383 and 340 cars. It would take a good running 440 to beat it.
I'm getting drag radials. It will run well into the 13's with drag radials. Then I'm going to turn up the boost and shoot for the 12's. That is as far as I will take it with the stock motor.
I ran a new Camaro ZL 1 yesterday. He didn't beat me by much. A little traction and I most likely would have beat him. He was running drag radials and the tires were more than double the width of the tires on the GLHS.



Traction is part of the package. Sorry, but especially on the street, a rear-drive car is gonna have an advantage over a FWD almost every time due to the traction issue. To say it would smoke 383 & 340 cars??? Well, you just dont have the facts to back that up. When my Satellite had the orig. 150k mile 2-bbl 383 with the basic stuff (mild hyd. cam; intake; carb; headers), it ran 13.80's. 383 Road Runners & 340 Darts are pretty much shoe-in's for a 13 second time slip. No offense, but your sons car is a full half second off that pace. The clocks don't lie, and right now its a mid 14 second car. Lack of traction isn't something specific to your car, and it isn't because you're making so much HP it cant hook up. It's the nature of FWD cars. I don't mean to flame, but I just really don't like the "It would beat this car IF" stuff.... The guy in the other lane probably has an IF too.

Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/05/14 07:44 PM

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This little car would blow away 383 and 340 cars. It would take a good running 440 to beat it.
I'm getting drag radials. It will run well into the 13's with drag radials. Then I'm going to turn up the boost and shoot for the 12's. That is as far as I will take it with the stock motor.
I ran a new Camaro ZL 1 yesterday. He didn't beat me by much. A little traction and I most likely would have beat him. He was running drag radials and the tires were more than double the width of the tires on the GLHS.



Traction is part of the package. Sorry, but especially on the street, a rear-drive car is gonna have an advantage over a FWD almost every time due to the traction issue. To say it would smoke 383 & 340 cars??? Well, you just dont have the facts to back that up. When my Satellite had the orig. 150k mile 2-bbl 383 with the basic stuff (mild hyd. cam; intake; carb; headers), it ran 13.80's. 383 Road Runners & 340 Darts are pretty much shoe-in's for a 13 second time slip. No offense, but your sons car is a full half second off that pace. The clocks don't lie, and right now its a mid 14 second car. Lack of traction isn't something specific to your car, and it isn't because you're making so much HP it cant hook up. It's the nature of FWD cars. I don't mean to flame, but I just really don't like the "It would beat this car IF" stuff.... The guy in the other lane probably has an IF too.





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Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/06/14 01:10 AM

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This little car would blow away 383 and 340 cars. It would take a good running 440 to beat it.
I'm getting drag radials. It will run well into the 13's with drag radials. Then I'm going to turn up the boost and shoot for the 12's. That is as far as I will take it with the stock motor.
I ran a new Camaro ZL 1 yesterday. He didn't beat me by much. A little traction and I most likely would have beat him. He was running drag radials and the tires were more than double the width of the tires on the GLHS.



Traction is part of the package. Sorry, but especially on the street, a rear-drive car is gonna have an advantage over a FWD almost every time due to the traction issue. To say it would smoke 383 & 340 cars??? Well, you just dont have the facts to back that up. When my Satellite had the orig. 150k mile 2-bbl 383 with the basic stuff (mild hyd. cam; intake; carb; headers), it ran 13.80's. 383 Road Runners & 340 Darts are pretty much shoe-in's for a 13 second time slip. No offense, but your sons car is a full half second off that pace. The clocks don't lie, and right now its a mid 14 second car. Lack of traction isn't something specific to your car, and it isn't because you're making so much HP it cant hook up. It's the nature of FWD cars. I don't mean to flame, but I just really don't like the "It would beat this car IF" stuff.... The guy in the other lane probably has an IF too.





Traction is part of the equation and the tires on this car are terrible.
I said stock 383 and 340's.
A 383 two barrel is a 15 second combo from the factory if your lucky. I seen some in the 16's over the years.
I ordered tires today. This should put the car solid into the 13's. Most likely faster than 13.80's.
I don't believe the fwd is what made the car so hard to get a good time slip as much as the turbo.
On my 440 Cuda back in the day the first run down the track on G60 polyglas tires I ran a 14.40 blowing the tires off. But with in a few passes I was able to get the car down to a 13.60 et on the same tires.The same car ran 13.02 a couple of weeks later on slicks. The advantage of the 440 was bottom end torque. I could leave off idle and ride the clutch and the car would pull smoothly to red line. The small cubic inch turbo motor gets all its power from the turbo. When you try and leave at low RPM's it leaves like a dog until the turbo spools and then it blows the tires off.
The traction issue is why back in the 70's many small blocks had a reputation of being able to beat big blocks with much more hp on the street. But if you get tires and hook the big block up the race has a totally different out come. When I say IF I mean I am going to correct the IF and go out and prove it. I'm not the guy that says things but never try's to prove them. Like the car show crowd.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/06/14 01:13 AM

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Buy a cheap used pair of slicks for it, but to get the most from them he's gonna have to dump it pretty high, and your axles will be on borrowed time then.



I put heavy duty after market axle in the car.


Does it still have the 525 trans in it? Does it have the girdle and other parts? I'd be more worried about it than the axles.



The original trans blew up we had to put another trans in the car. I upgraded the axles at that time to be safe.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/06/14 08:32 PM

Traction is part of the package. Sorry, but especially on the street, a rear-drive car is gonna have an advantage over a FWD almost every time due to the traction issue. To say it would smoke 383 & 340 cars??? Well, you just dont have the facts to back that up. When my Satellite had the orig. 150k mile 2-bbl 383 with the basic stuff (mild hyd. cam; intake; carb; headers), it ran 13.80's. 383 Road Runners & 340 Darts are pretty much shoe-in's for a 13 second time slip. No offense, but your sons car is a full half second off that pace. The clocks don't lie, and right now its a mid 14 second car. Lack of traction isn't something specific to your car, and it isn't because you're making so much HP it cant hook up. It's the nature of FWD cars. I don't mean to flame, but I just really don't like the "It would beat this car IF" stuff.... The guy in the other lane probably has an IF too.





The facts are that very few 383's and 340 cars were capable of running in the 13's from the factory. I know the 340 Duster with a 4 spd and 3.91 rear was suppose to just touch the 13's because it was advertised as part of the RTS. But in reality most 340 Dusters would not run sub 14's from the factory.
Here are some times I found on a website from magazine tests.


1968 Plymouth Barracuda 340-S (CL)

340ci/275hp, 3spd auto, 3.23, 0-60 - 7.0, 1/4 mile - 14.97 @ 95.4mph

1968 Plymouth Barracuda 340-S (MT)

340ci/275hp, 4spd, 3.23, 0-60 - 8.1, 1/4 mile - 15.2 @ 92mph

1968 Plymouth Road Runner (MT)

383ci/335hp, 4spd, 3.23, 0-60 - 6.8, 1/4 mile - 15.0 @ 93mph

1968 Plymouth Road Runner (HR)

383ci/335hp, 4spd, 3.55, 0-60 - 6.2, 1/4 mile - 14.74 @ 98mph

1968 Plymouht Road Runner (CD)

426ci/425hp, 3spd auto, 3.55, 0-60 - n/a, 1/4 mile - 13.54 @ 105.10mph

It looks like my statement was correct. The little turbo car would eat most stock 383 and 340 cars.
The 383 was the most disappointing motor in Chryslers high performance line up. I have driven some healthy 340's over the years but the 383 required some work to become a respectable performer. I think the cam was what held it back.
Contrary to many statements from Chrysler guys I know. There is a night and day difference between the 383 and 440 in stock form.
I've seen impressive running 383's but they were not stock.
My Cuda 440 with a mild hyd cam intake carb and headers ran low 12's
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/06/14 09:24 PM

What those sticky tires are going to do is put that car on a trailer for the ride home. That trans is the weakest link but not the only one. Good luck in your quest but be prepared.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/06/14 10:28 PM

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What those sticky tires are going to do is put that car on a trailer for the ride home. That trans is the weakest link but not the only one. Good luck in your quest but be prepared.



We drive the car to the track.
The trans in this car is bullet proof down to 11's. I also upgraded the axles. It should be safe for a while.
Posted By: SuperStockWagon

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/07/14 01:10 AM

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What those sticky tires are going to do is put that car on a trailer for the ride home. That trans is the weakest link but not the only one. Good luck in your quest but be prepared.



The trans in this car is bullet proof down to 11's.



Boy if I had a dollar for everytime I heard that! lol
Posted By: Chris2581

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/07/14 02:11 AM

I used to race my 87 2.2 Turismo 5 speed many years ago.The weak links I found quickly were the gear shift linkage and it needed a cable at the front of the engine to the frame.It ran consistant 16.90's,not bad for a bone stock 2.2 with a feedback carb.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/07/14 02:48 AM

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What those sticky tires are going to do is put that car on a trailer for the ride home. That trans is the weakest link but not the only one. Good luck in your quest but be prepared.



The trans in this car is bullet proof down to 11's.



Boy if I had a dollar for everytime I heard that! lol



I know. It should be bullet proof. When you are racing anything can happen even if you have the best parts.
Posted By: 2qik4u

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/07/14 02:50 AM

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The facts are that very few 383's and 340 cars were capable of running in the 13's from the factory. I know the 340 Duster with a 4 spd and 3.91 rear was suppose to just touch the 13's because it was advertised as part of the RTS. But in reality most 340 Dusters would not run sub 14's from the factory.
Here are some times I found on a website from magazine tests.


1968 Plymouth Barracuda 340-S (CL)

340ci/275hp, 3spd auto, 3.23, 0-60 - 7.0, 1/4 mile - 14.97 @ 95.4mph

1968 Plymouth Barracuda 340-S (MT)

340ci/275hp, 4spd, 3.23, 0-60 - 8.1, 1/4 mile - 15.2 @ 92mph

1968 Plymouth Road Runner (MT)

383ci/335hp, 4spd, 3.23, 0-60 - 6.8, 1/4 mile - 15.0 @ 93mph

1968 Plymouth Road Runner (HR)

383ci/335hp, 4spd, 3.55, 0-60 - 6.2, 1/4 mile - 14.74 @ 98mph

1968 Plymouht Road Runner (CD)

426ci/425hp, 3spd auto, 3.55, 0-60 - n/a, 1/4 mile - 13.54 @ 105.10mph

It looks like my statement was correct. The little turbo car would eat most stock 383 and 340 cars.
The 383 was the most disappointing motor in Chryslers high performance line up. I have driven some healthy 340's over the years but the 383 required some work to become a respectable performer. I think the cam was what held it back.
Contrary to many statements from Chrysler guys I know. There is a night and day difference between the 383 and 440 in stock form.
I've seen impressive running 383's but they were not stock.
My Cuda 440 with a mild hyd cam intake carb and headers ran low 12's



Love the GLHS, but if you start making the some minor mods to the cars on the list above the are running right with the miror modded GLHS. I do agree 101 mph is impressive from a small turbo banger.
Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/07/14 04:21 AM

"It looks like my statement was correct. The little turbo car would eat most stock 383 and 340 cars."

You might want to Re-Read your own statement, which was:
"This little car would blow away 383 and 340 cars. It would take a good running 440 to beat it."

You never said anything about bone stock.... Listen, we're all rooting for you to go as fast as that little mopar can, but when you start calling out 383 & 440 cars from behind the wheel of a mid 14 second 4-cyl, expect some takers....

Edit: Now I've just read the term "bulletproof down into the 11's"......
Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/07/14 05:12 AM

Here are some times I found on a website from magazine tests.


1968 Plymouth Barracuda 340-S (CL)

340ci/275hp, 3spd auto, 3.23, 0-60 - 7.0, 1/4 mile - 14.97 @ 95.4mph

1968 Plymouth Barracuda 340-S (MT)

340ci/275hp, 4spd, 3.23, 0-60 - 8.1, 1/4 mile - 15.2 @ 92mph

1968 Plymouth Road Runner (MT)

383ci/335hp, 4spd, 3.23, 0-60 - 6.8, 1/4 mile - 15.0 @ 93mph

1968 Plymouth Road Runner (HR)

383ci/335hp, 4spd, 3.55, 0-60 - 6.2, 1/4 mile - 14.74 @ 98mph

1968 Plymouht Road Runner (CD)

426ci/425hp, 3spd auto, 3.55, 0-60 - n/a, 1/4 mile - 13.54 @ 105.10mph

It looks like my statement was correct. The little turbo car would eat most stock 383 and 340 cars.
The 383 was the most disappointing motor in Chryslers high performance line up. I have driven some healthy 340's over the years but the 383 required some work to become a respectable performer. I think the cam was what held it back.
Contrary to many statements from Chrysler guys I know. There is a night and day difference between the 383 and 440 in stock form.
I've seen impressive running 383's but they were not stock.
My Cuda 440 with a mild hyd cam intake carb and headers ran low 12's



Here are some numbers I happened to run across in this months MuscleCar Review:

Car & Driver; Jan. 1969 test: 1969 Dodge SuperBee - 383 4bbl: 14.04 @ 99.5
Motor Trend; Feb 1969 test: 1969 Plymouth RoadRunner - 383 4bbl: 14.35 @ 101.
Car & Driver; Feb 1970 test: 1970 Duster - 340 4-bbl: 14.39 @ 97

Guess you're not exactly "Eating" those cars, huh?

Put some sticky tires on it, see what you come up with and make sure to report back. My guess is the report will include broken parts. Oh, and by the way, it didn't take sticky tires, aftermarket transmissions, and axles to get the above cars to run these times.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/07/14 05:17 AM

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"It looks like my statement was correct. The little turbo car would eat most stock 383 and 340 cars."

You might want to Re-Read your own statement, which was:
"This little car would blow away 383 and 340 cars. It would take a good running 440 to beat it."

You never said anything about bone stock.... Listen, we're all rooting for you to go as fast as that little mopar can, but when you start calling out 383 & 440 cars from behind the wheel of a mid 14 second 4-cyl, expect some takers....

I meant stock. I wasn't calling anyone out. I was just making a statement. Are you coming to the Mega Mopar Show? Maybe we can line up a grudge race.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/07/14 05:23 AM

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"It looks like my statement was correct. The little turbo car would eat most stock 383 and 340 cars."

You might want to Re-Read your own statement, which was:
"This little car would blow away 383 and 340 cars. It would take a good running 440 to beat it."

You never said anything about bone stock.... Listen, we're all rooting for you to go as fast as that little mopar can, but when you start calling out 383 & 440 cars from behind the wheel of a mid 14 second 4-cyl, expect some takers....

I meant stock. I wasn't calling anyone out. I was just making a statement. Are you coming to the Mega Mopar Show? Maybe we can line up a grudge race.



Most guys that I know that ran a 340 changed the valve
springs as soon as they got the car.. that was the
weak point on them... with just springs you werent
touching a 340... most 440s couldnt either
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/07/14 05:29 AM

Here are some numbers I happened to run across in this months MuscleCar Review:

Car & Driver; Jan. 1969 test: 1969 Dodge SuperBee - 383 4bbl: 14.04 @ 99.5
Motor Trend; Feb 1969 test: 1969 Plymouth RoadRunner - 383 4bbl: 14.35 @ 101.
Car & Driver; Feb 1970 test: 1970 Duster - 340 4-bbl: 14.39 @ 97

Guess you're not exactly "Eating" those cars, huh?

Put some sticky tires on it, see what you come up with and make sure to report back. My guess is the report will include broken parts. Oh, and by the way, it didn't take sticky tires, aftermarket transmissions, and axles to get the above cars to run these times.



Back in the day it was pretty well known that the magazine test cars were wringers. Warmed over.
I seen a many of 383 car back in the day that couldn't break into the 14's. That is just the way things were.
Posted By: stockerbill

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/08/14 05:06 PM

WOW.. sorry but.. sounding a little like the honda fwd crowd
Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/08/14 07:25 PM

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Back in the day it was pretty well known that the magazine test cars were wringers. Warmed over.
I seen a many of 383 car back in the day that couldn't break into the 14's. That is just the way things were.
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I meant stock. I wasn't calling anyone out. I was just making a statement. Are you coming to the Mega Mopar Show? Maybe we can line up a grudge race.





I think this conversation has just about run its course. But I'll say again, that I think your sons turbo-4 obviously runs real well, and I root for you to hit your goal of getting it into the 13's. However, I also think you're underestimating what a good running 383 could do. Any half-way competent owner could have a 383 'Runner knocking on the 13 second door with a couple of small tricks. I also think that 340 A-body's were every big block guys worst nightmare and have run across PLENTY that were faster than mid-14's in stock or nearly stock trim. I'm not trying to demean your sons car, I'm merely standing up for the 60's cars.

Thanks for the invite to Mega Mopar, though. I genuinely wish I could be there, but I live in the NW and don't get to see any of these great events. Tell you what; I'll offer you a little incentive to get your goal accomplished. I'll encourage you the entire summer to do whatever you can to that stout little 4-banger. Post up your best Time-Slip with video of the car running that time to back it up, and I'll reply with a similar post up of one of my timeslips. We could call it a cross-country grudge match (??).


PS: The Satellite now runs a fairly stout 451; so you may need to wield your biggest hammer in getting the turbo car ready.


Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/09/14 02:42 AM

Tell you what; I'll offer you a little incentive to get your goal accomplished. I'll encourage you the entire summer to do whatever you can to that stout little 4-banger. Post up your best Time-Slip with video of the car running that time to back it up, and I'll reply with a similar post up of one of my timeslips. We could call it a cross-country grudge match (??).


PS: The Satellite now runs a fairly stout 451; so you may need to wield your biggest hammer in getting the turbo car ready.







We are not going to be able to get the car to beat your stroker motor this year in an even up race. We don't have the time or money. My son is 19 and a full time student. He also works 7 days a week.
Next year I'll take a shot at your offer. For now the goal is to run 12's. The motor is stock with a stage 2 computer. $150. Now we are bolting on a set of drag radials $350. I am hoping to get in the 12's with not much else but to run 11's and give your BB a run for the money we will have to buy some parts.
Maybe next year.
Posted By: Twostick

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/09/14 03:53 AM

Is that a Turbo III motor with the intercooler? A buddy of mine had one from new with a 5 spd and with stock internals and some tweeking it ran IIRC high 12's and drove to work every day for over 100,000 miles. He sprung for the MP Performance ECU for it and said it was a waste of money. Basically zero gains for the $$.

His son has a turbo Neon (SRT4?)that runs mid to hi 12's when the clutch is fresh and it doesn't have anything exotic either.

Kevin
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Car ran 101 mph quarter how hard to get in the 13's? - 05/09/14 01:05 PM

It is a turbo 2 intercooled motor. I'm planning on getting it into the 11's but to safely do that it needs new rods and pistons. These cars are much easier and cheaper to hot rod than the old muscle cars.It would take thousands of dollars to run 12's with a 340 or 383 muscle car.
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