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Predator guys...Intake manifolds

Posted By: Al_Alguire

Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/17/14 06:25 PM

Any of you guys running the new Predator cast single 4 intake? Not the old style short one I am talking the new style larger volume one. Part number PRE-I4-3. Looking at purchasing one to use in Super Classes, just want to hear if ANYONE has any experience with it. Next question is who is the best place to get one from?
Posted By: Biginchmopar

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/17/14 10:42 PM

Al,
I got the cast tunnel ram and it is a nice piece. I bought it from Steve G. at Predator Heads .com but that site is down now. Maybe call him on the phone? I don't have a number. You know how I feel about dealing with Indy on anything.
Another guy that is great to deal with is Mike @ Muscle Motors.
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/17/14 11:03 PM

Well I already have this one

[IMG]http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd105/blowncuda/IMAG03231_zps585596ea.jpeg[/IMG]
Posted By: Biginchmopar

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 01:01 AM

Now that is a great piece! How many Predator guys are even out there, 5?

I know I want my Predator to make 1200HP and I'm not to sure it will, I guess we will see here inn a couple months.

Posted By: dakotawilly

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 06:10 AM

don't see much predator stuff,i believe the standardized formula for predator hp is about 50 dollars per...one can always dream though.or win the lottery.or marry oprah....
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 06:50 AM

They aint that bad..But if you are a Mopar guy not many options. Went the 99 Hemi route, been using B1MC's so this seems like the next logical stop. Someone has to start trying to make these a tad more common place. Then again what am I sayign this is a mopar site where most are scared of new technology
Posted By: 572_HEMI_Cuda

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 01:38 PM

Why did you step away from the Hemi 99 stuff?
Posted By: HardcoreB

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 03:21 PM

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Well I already have this one

[IMG]http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd105/blowncuda/IMAG03231_zps585596ea.jpeg[/IMG]



I'd call JohnM. and have him make you a different top for that manifold.
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 04:52 PM

Sean I have and the teepee top he wants to use will simply be WAY to tall for the car. It adds another 3.5" to the height/

We got away from the 99 stuff(for now)due to maintenance right now. I will end up racing by myself, well with the wife, from time to time and it simply be to much work for me alone. So I am going to a bigger cube deal and will hope it is less maintenance intensive. Also we will likely have nitrous on this mill incase we decide to travel a bit to run TS. We will likely get back to the 99 stuff at some point as it flat makes power.

The reason I am looking for input on the intake is the ability to run this motor in Super Classes. Maybe we can go 170 in S/ST
Posted By: Biginchmopar

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 05:31 PM

My combo is 596CID deal so I'm hoping it will make power in the lower RPM below 8000rpm. Less spring maintenance I hope. My heads have the Indy CNC port job so I'm guessing they will need a little more work to get them to flow real well.

How big of a deal are you going to run Al?
Posted By: MRMOPAR622

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 05:41 PM

Al,call Indy they are not as Bad or as Hard to deal with as some of these people make them out to be.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 07:54 PM

Quote:

Al,call Indy they are not as Bad or as Hard to deal with as some of these people make them out to be.



I disagree....And with big $$$ on the line, I would never go direct, ever!
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 08:07 PM

Depending on the plenum volume you might need... you
could just make a flat plate for a single carb and
make a plenum diverted to direct the A/F so you get
away from the center dead space
Posted By: MRMOPAR622

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 08:21 PM

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Al,call Indy they are not as Bad or as Hard to deal with as some of these people make them out to be.



I disagree....And with big $$$ on the line, I would never go direct, ever!



A intake is a intake,and Indy is the one that makes it.

OK Al,since my 1st advice was not helpful.I'll try to be a little more helpful this time.Since you are starting with more or less a clean slate AND WITH BIG $$$ ON THE LINE and you are thinking T/S think about it you are going to need a lot of Cu. In. to do the T/S deal.It would not be very wise to try and build a T/D or T/S engine with less than 700 cu. in.!
Al for once I am not picking at you or trying to give you a hard time.Look at the speeds the T/S car are running now and you know they are only gong to get faster.
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/18/14 08:38 PM

Billy, believe me I hear ya. This will likely be my LAST attempt at doing this Mopar style. Bad enough I have to pay a $20K premium for a USED Mopar 6.00 cert car but wanna try an build a Mopar deal. Hard to pass up some of the big bore space stuff out there for the price.


I have most of the engine, just looking for possibilities of using it in multiple classes. Lot's of things happening around here It may end up being nothing more than a super class engine when it is done but hoping we can make enough power to get in a TS field. Thankfully for now out here that is quite doable.
Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/19/14 03:01 AM

You guys need to call Steve Gill.He IS mr preditor
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/19/14 03:37 AM

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Sean I have and the teepee top he wants to use will simply be WAY to tall for the car. It adds another 3.5" to the height/

We got away from the 99 stuff(for now)due to maintenance right now. I will end up racing by myself, well with the wife, from time to time and it simply be to much work for me alone. So I am going to a bigger cube deal and will hope it is less maintenance intensive. Also we will likely have nitrous on this mill incase we decide to travel a bit to run TS. We will likely get back to the 99 stuff at some point as it flat makes power.

The reason I am looking for input on the intake is the ability to run this motor in Super Classes. Maybe we can go 170 in S/ST



This is what 175 in the super classes can get you....personally I believe the huge HP is growing beyond what these cars are designed for...



Yep....my old vette

Rickster
Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/19/14 06:25 AM

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Billy, believe me I hear ya. This will likely be my LAST attempt at doing this Mopar style. Bad enough I have to pay a $20K premium for a USED Mopar 6.00 cert car but wanna try an build a Mopar deal. Hard to pass up some of the big bore space stuff out there for the price.


I have most of the engine, just looking for possibilities of using it in multiple classes. Lot's of things happening around here It may end up being nothing more than a super class engine when it is done but hoping we can make enough power to get in a TS field. Thankfully for now out here that is quite doable.

Why are you hung on running Super Street Al? I guess I don't see the point in having Top Sportsman power and stopping it down to run a 10.90 class. Why not just run Top Sportsman. It's all about the start line and the finish line in both classes, you just don't get the "snooze fest" in the middle with Top Sportsman........LOL!!!

A decent 600" Predator motor should make 1100 fairly easily. With a TS weight car and a moderate amount of nitrous, you can get in a TS field anywhere.

Monte
Posted By: dakotawilly

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/19/14 06:36 AM

maybe u can talk indy into making a mod man intake for predators,but then you would need another two grand in mods just to make it work...
Posted By: Jerry Kathe

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/19/14 02:04 PM

Throttle stopping that much power for 10.90 ETs and looking for maximum power to also run TS is two completely different spectrum's on plenum to runner ratio.

Don’t expect it to stop consistently with a plenum large enough to produce maximum HP - and in contrast, it will never produce max HP with a plenum small enough to stay consistently crisp when coming off the stop.

It hard to say with just looking at a photo…..but that intake, as pretty as it is, doesn't look like what you would want for stop racing. – FWIW…..
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Predator guys...Intake manifolds - 04/19/14 06:01 PM

Monte I am going to move up to Top Sportsman but want the ability to run S/C or Gas..Thus the questions on the signle cast 4 intake. BTW at some point the Marcella intake will be he heading to you for the fogger set up. Just in case..


As for running S/St at 170, it is the challenge of the thing. My current car has been 162 and change at 10.90 with a 525" B1 at 2975lbs. I think I have a pretty good grasp on what it will take to run the Predator in .90 stuff, we seem to have done ok to this point
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