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mid plate in a stock door car

Posted By: wyldebill

mid plate in a stock door car - 03/01/14 09:57 PM

Has anyone put a mid plate in a stock car. Curious how big a pain it would be. Would it be worth the hassle?
Posted By: 70dusterjohn

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/01/14 10:11 PM

We put one in the duster, it's not a big deal, the only time it's a pain is pulling or putting the tranny in the car ! I only did so after talking too my chassie guy, I ended up doing a lot to the car that year so as to if it helped ? The car is a lot more consistent !
Posted By: fullmetaljacket

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/01/14 10:28 PM

not really worth the while. just put limiters to the trans ears to the trans crossmember.
There's mid to low 10 second cars running with out them but have limiters.
Posted By: fishy340

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/02/14 04:31 AM

Actually very easy,i got comp engineering .090 thick and cut the excess off.Good thing to have in a car with some hp.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/02/14 04:34 AM

It does help stiffen the front end up
Posted By: lucky13

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/02/14 04:56 AM

Does anybody have any pics of how they are mounted?
Posted By: wyldebill

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/02/14 05:56 AM

I'm looking at doing this on a stick car
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/02/14 06:02 AM

Yes was easy to do, I have a s&w race cars plate in mine. You just need to unbolt the plate when taking motor out.
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/02/14 06:16 AM

Here is a pic
Posted By: lucky13

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/02/14 08:09 AM

Thanks
Posted By: lucky13

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/02/14 08:10 AM

Do you space the flexplate and starter out the same thickness of the plate?
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/02/14 02:26 PM

No need to with .090 mid plate...cut around the starter
and it'll mount flat
Posted By: 408strokerdart

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/02/14 06:55 PM

1/4" aluminum mid plate in mine...no problem. I made it myself and made it pick up the lower holes in my ATI bellhousing. I don't even need to support the transmission when taking the engine out since those lower holes don't go thru the block. I'm sure it stiffens everything up.
Posted By: lucky13

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/02/14 11:56 PM

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No need to with .090 mid plate...cut around the starter
and it'll mount flat





do you just space the flexplate out, or run spacers on the TC bolts then? I've always known about the mid plates, just never gave enough of a thought to how they are all mounted up. Thanks
Posted By: fishy340

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/03/14 01:18 AM

It's .090 just leave everything as is....it will work
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/03/14 01:39 AM

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It's .090 just leave everything as is....it will work




What he said... I have a .090... didnt space anything
but I did cut out around the starter
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/03/14 01:40 AM

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It's .090 just leave everything as is....it will work




This is what I did.
Posted By: Leon441

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/03/14 01:48 AM

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Do you space the flexplate and starter out the same thickness of the plate?




Some mid plates come with a spacer. The one I had did not. I think it is something that should be done. Yes, it's only .090 almost 3/32". I had to run washers on the converter bolts to get the correct converter spacing. That is a pain to have to do when changing converter often. Spacing the flexplate is the smarter thing to do.

Not criticizing anyone who doesn't or thinks it is unnecessary. But, a flexplate or flywheel spacer is the smarter thing to do on a .090". DO NOT RECOMMEND ON A 1/4" DUE TO THE FLYWHEEL FLANGE ON THE CRANK. It could be done but a lot harder.

Leon
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/03/14 02:06 AM

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Quote:

Do you space the flexplate and starter out the same thickness of the plate?




Some mid plates come with a spacer. The one I had did not. I think it is something that should be done. Yes, it's only .090 almost 3/32". I had to run washers on the converter bolts to get the correct converter spacing. That is a pain to have to do when changing converter often. Spacing the flexplate is the smarter thing to do.

Not criticizing anyone who doesn't or thinks it is unnecessary. But, a flexplate or flywheel spacer is the smarter thing to do on a .090". DO NOT RECOMMEND ON A 1/4" DUE TO THE FLYWHEEL FLANGE ON THE CRANK. It could be done but a lot harder.

Leon




It is NOT recommended over .090 on the plate.. I was
told by multiple people that .090 was OK... and it is
Posted By: lucky13

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/03/14 02:12 AM

Ok, just not sure if it would make a difference in the converter engagement.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/03/14 02:31 AM

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Ok, just not sure if it would make a difference in the converter engagement.




I'll put it this way... over 10 years with the same conv
it hasnt.. I leave at 5600 rpm(right up on the conv)
I've pulled the conv a few times during a freshen up
and never seen anything... but I'm a slow car
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: mid plate in a stock door car - 03/03/14 11:16 PM

A 440 or Hemi with a front plate and trans mount will flex. Solid mounts on the mid and front plate, flexible mount on trans(you will be cracking tail shafts if you don,t) Trans and engine where easy to remove, the lower 4 holes on trans, this holds the trans when you pull engine, long dowels in the block. I might add if you don't have a good full cage you'll be twisting and braking stuff with a midplate, so i wouldn't it in a stock door car unless you had some type off floating mount.
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