6-PAC SCOOP ISSUES SOLVED......................

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Last week I drilled and whittled some tear-drop holes(don`t ask)in the back of my scoop to release the trapped turbulent air and what a difference in plug readings and wideband numbers. I`m actually going to have to jet up and my cruise and wot #`s are rock solid............see, beer DOES give us inspiration.............No, I don`t have any pics..........

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if he has an adjustable wastegate he can wind in more power & he's got 4wd.

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Not worried but I hear what your sayin..............

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if he has an adjustable wastegate he can wind in more power & he's got 4wd.

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Not worried but I hear what your sayin..............

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Lol! A guy willing to street race you for money that tells you what his car runs subtract a second. I have a couple of friends with 4G63 powered cars, talons and an EVO. the talons each hold records and the EVO easily runs single digits on a moderate boost tune. If he catches 2nd gear clean you may have your hands full but best of luck!! Bring us some video!

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Pics please I'm in the same boat



Happy Holidays

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Part of your problem is the carb to scoop clearance...
your asking a lot to have the air turn 90* in
that short distance... you would like the air horn
below the stock hood about 3/4" then use a ideal entry
which most on here call a velocity stack for the radius

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Hey Mr P my problem is carb to hood clearance because I'm running a dominator carb with a 2 in spacer on a indy intake with a 4150 flange but in the spring I will try my 1000hp holley carb to see if I gain a better signal

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if he has an adjustable wastegate he can wind in more power & he's got 4wd.

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Get him to go three rounds with you, he will be broken by the end, especially if he tries to crank the boost up.

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Highly unlikely. Their stock long blocks will run a ways into the 9's for at least two seasons and lots of street miles. That I can guarantee. You.

Rooting for the mopar but nothing in racing is easy

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Why dont you guys start testing those scoops... you
all want to use them but only because they are"correct"..

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mine came with the car and I'm to cheap to buy a new 1 just holding off until a used 1 to pop up

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What have you done to see if you can make it better...
have you tried no hood, have you tried raising the hood..
I bought the scoop I have just to get the inlet up
into the clean air flow... do I need it that high..
no I could get away with 3" lower but the more distance
between the carb and scoop only help.. but I also
use the string theory(string from the front of the
hood to the roof line) and have the bottom of the inlet
at or above the string

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Why dont you guys start testing those scoops... you
all want to use them but only because they are"correct"..

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mine came with the car and I'm to cheap to buy a new 1 just holding off until a used 1 to pop up

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What have you done to see if you can make it better...
have you tried no hood, have you tried raising the hood..
I bought the scoop I have just to get the inlet up
into the clean air flow... do I need it that high..
no I could get away with 3" lower but the more distance
between the carb and scoop only help.. but I also
use the string theory(string from the front of the
hood to the roof line) and have the bottom of the inlet
at or above the string

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Mike I tried a air pan but the car really didn't like it and it wasn't made more of just a funnel for the air to come straight to 1 of the changes I'm looking to make or try is a different manifold with dominator flange or as stated earlier 1000hp carb with 1 in spacer(this will lower the carb but not sure if it can match up to the dom but testing will tell). Thanks for the input Mike



Dom sorry if we are hijacking your thread

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if he has an adjustable wastegate he can wind in more power & he's got 4wd.

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Get him to go three rounds with you, he will be broken by the end, especially if he tries to crank the boost up.

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Highly unlikely. Their stock long blocks will run a ways into the 9's for at least two seasons and lots of street miles. That I can guarantee. You.

Rooting for the mopar but nothing in racing is easy

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if he has an adjustable wastegate he can wind in more power & he's got 4wd.

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Get him to go three rounds with you, he will be broken by the end, especially if he tries to crank the boost up.

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Highly unlikely. Their stock long blocks will run a ways into the 9's for at least two seasons and lots of street miles. That I can guarantee. You.

Rooting for the mopar but nothing in racing is easy

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Besides the fact that the stock long blocks have cast rods and pistons, and the cranks would hit the pavement, even if that were true their drivetrains won't last that many passes in the 9s.

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Not my case..............I attached yarn to my hood and it`s being pulled in so it`s taking air in the ft. plus now it`s not trying to rip itself off as bad at speed.

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If you can get your hands on an old Direct Connection manual, read the section on hood scoops. It explains perfectly what is happening and why most factory scoops are useless.

As for the yarn trick....unless you put it RIGHT at the opening of the scoop and filmed it during a pass, you still don't know. And even if it DOES pull the yarn in, doesn't mean a whole lot. As was mentioned above, the holes in the rear of the scoop are now allowing some air to the carb. THAT is what helped it. Aside from high in the air, the low pressure area at the base of the windshield is the BEST place to draw air and now you are doing that with the rear holes

All this same stuff you guys are talking about right now was PROVEN way back in the 70s by the Chrysler engineering team. The front end of a 70 Dart is still like it was in.......well, the 70s and the aero hasn't changed. Stock scoops suck(not air though), period, end of story.

Monte

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If that`s the case about pullin air from the windshield(which I find hard to believe)then how come all of the talk about a cowl having to be as close as possible when the back of my scoop is miles away?

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Its just a matter of how much pressure is at any
given point... I'm sure there is more pressure at
or real close to the windshield vs 8"-10" forward
of it... put a hose to a inches of water gauge and
move the end of the hose to different points to see
what kind of pressure is in different spots(make sure
the end of the hose is angled the same... then even
aim the hose inlet in different directions to see if
it changes)

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I`m goin to mount a go-pro camera in there soon and I`ll have a video and pics later and if this isn`t the solution, I have another hood and it will get a cowl.........

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Nobody is trying to rain on your parade here or trying to say you are doing something wrong. We are only saying that all this stuff you are trying to figure out, has already been figured out. If you had ever seen a car in a wind tunnel with a smoke wand going, you would easily understand why the holes in the back of the scoop helped

Monte

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yep I figured that out 30 yeqars ago, Thumper you are slow

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Slow and consistent homey................

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me too!!

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That makes me feel alittle better haha.It's pretty bad my 11 and 8 year old are better on a computer then me.lol

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You have a PM!!

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me too!!

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That makes me feel alittle better haha.It's pretty bad my 11 and 8 year old are better on a computer then me.lol

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You have a PM!!

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Now my stupid phone don't want to send them too you.

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