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A very very nice stick car

Posted By: oldiron

A very very nice stick car - 08/03/13 02:46 AM

68Lar last weekend at NTR
http://hyperperformance.smugmug.com/Cars...mp;lb=1&s=A

Posted By: RonTheAnnouncer

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/03/13 02:57 AM

That is a sweet hot rod!!!
My friend Jim Edwards won Street Stick with his '56 Chevy.
Posted By: 383man

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/03/13 03:09 AM

Thats really a nice shot. Ron
Posted By: LAR_414

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/03/13 03:17 AM

Time for wheeeeeely bars!
Posted By: 68shifter

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/03/13 03:34 AM

Very nice.

One week away. Weather looking great so far.
Posted By: 6bblFLASH

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/03/13 04:55 AM



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Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/03/13 10:02 AM

That is a great shot of Larry's Runner. best part he is the original owner, and a heck of a nice guy.

Jeff
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/03/13 02:05 PM

Thanks for the "post" and all of the complements. You guys are making me blush. Hope to see you all at the Nat's.
Larry
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/03/13 03:09 PM

Nice air Larry
Gus

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Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/04/13 05:37 AM

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Time for wheeeeeely bars!




Car comes out just fine!!No need for sissy sticks just yet
Posted By: LAR_414

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/06/13 04:41 PM

I was just kidding my dad on the sissy sticks! Imagine how much HP it would take to pull that heavy front end up a few FEET! Yikes!

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Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/08/13 02:58 AM

looks like its working well.

a833 trans? which low gear?
what rear gear, what launch rpm, what clutch?

just curious....
Posted By: 69CHARGERMD

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/08/13 03:08 AM

Nice Roadrunner. Great pic

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Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/08/13 01:11 PM

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a833 trans? which low gear?
what rear gear, what launch rpm, what clutch?

just curious....




Stock 18 spline, 2.65 low gear. Dana out back with 4.56's and a 29" tall tire. Launch rpm was at 5400. I've been using an 11" Center Force DF for many years.
Posted By: markrr

Re: A very very nice stick car - 08/09/13 12:39 PM

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That is a great shot of Larry's Runner. best part he is the original owner, and a heck of a nice guy.

Jeff




Yes. I agree.
Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: A very very nice stick car - 10/29/13 03:10 AM

thanks for the info.

about how many passes a year would you say you make with it?

or, how many passes do you think its got on it since you had any "issues"?

"H" pattern shifter?
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 10/29/13 02:36 PM

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about how many passes a year would you say you make with it?

or, how many passes do you think its got on it since you had any "issues"?

"H" pattern shifter?



Usually do 6-7 races a year with the UMTR guys. Figure 2 time trials at each race and first round runner-up. So about 18-21 trips down the track each year.
With this past set up, (DF cover and Ram puck disc, I got about 10 runs before it started to slip. I have since gone back to a complete CFDF set up, which I ran for several years with no issues. The only reason I went with the Ram disc was because the DFX disc was on back order when I was ready for it. I changed my mind about the DFX disc due to cost if for no other reason.
Shifter is a Hurst Super Shifter 3 with reverse lock out. Yes an "H" pattern shifter.
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: A very very nice stick car - 10/29/13 02:42 PM

Very nice! Love that car.
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 10/29/13 08:53 PM

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Very nice! Love that car.



Thanks Chip, Me too!
Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: A very very nice stick car - 10/29/13 09:40 PM

Larry's a nice guy, I exchanged some PMs with him about his car to pick his brain since my car is a 3 pedal car too. Nice car, hes owned it for quite a while from what I remember him saying.
Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/01/13 01:35 AM

thanks for the info.
i gotta say....5400 launch.....thats pretty brave
Posted By: Stanton

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/01/13 03:29 AM

I'm considering that CFDF clutch but I can't find an 11" 18-spline disc !!
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/01/13 01:34 PM

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I'm considering that CFDF clutch but I can't find an 11" 18-spline disc !!




Part# DF071800 for the complete assembly
Part# DF384071 for the disc only
I just bought a new assembly and used these numbers. 'Was going to use the old cover and just buy the disc, but changed my mind.



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i gotta say....5400 launch.....thats pretty brave





Why?
Posted By: Stanton

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/01/13 02:00 PM

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I'm considering that CFDF clutch but I can't find an 11" 18-spline disc !!



Part# DF071800 for the complete assembly
Part# DF384071 for the disc only
I just bought a new assembly and used these numbers. 'Was going to use the old cover and just buy the disc, but changed my mind.




What sort of power are you putting out? This is the problem buying clutches, they rate them as "street, "street/strip", etc but in reality this is meaningless.

My motor is a stroker in the 600 hp range, mainly street use in a '69 b-body. I currently have a Hays "street" pp with the hays "street/strip disc". Since the motor isn't in the car yet I'd rather sort this clutch issue out now.

Thanks.
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/01/13 03:30 PM

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What sort of power are you putting out?



As stated in my sig, I've gone 11.14 @ almost 123 mph. HP calculator with a 3900+# car says that I'm making around 635 hp at the flywheel and around 545 at the back tires. With the CFDF I've pull 1.50 60' times. Most of the time I'm around 1.58, spinning the tires a bit.
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I currently have a Hays "street" pp with the hays "street/strip disc". Since the motor isn't in the car yet I'd rather sort this clutch issue out now.

Thanks.




By the way, I've used this Hays set up that you have now. It doesn't work at our power levels.
Posted By: Stanton

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/01/13 05:48 PM

Thanks for the info. One last question ... are the trowout bearings pretty much standard between the CFDF and my current Hays setup or would I have to replace that too (its brand new).
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/01/13 07:09 PM

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Thanks for the info. One last question ... are the trowout bearings pretty much standard between the CFDF and my current Hays setup or would I have to replace that too (its brand new).




The short answer is "Yes". 'Slight differences in the face that touches the pressure plate,some are wider than others, but all in all they are the same.
Posted By: 6pak2go

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/01/13 09:43 PM

So, I take it you're slipping the tires a bit on the launch to soften the hit on the drive line? I'm glad to see the 18-spline is living at over 600 HP.
Awesome car, btw. Love stick cars.
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/01/13 10:34 PM

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So, I take it you're slipping the tires a bit on the launch to soften the hit on the drive line? I'm glad to see the 18-spline is living at over 600 HP.
Awesome car, btw. Love stick cars.




Exactly. Something has to slip at launch, either the clutch or the tires. I prefer to spin the tires a bit. With an automatic, the converter does the slipping.
Posted By: oldiron

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/01/13 10:44 PM

personally, I like the slow left leg method to protect the drivetrain That happens as you get older (right?)
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/02/13 01:11 AM

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personally, I like the slow left leg method to protect the drivetrain That happens as you get older (right?)




What are you trying to say??????
Posted By: oldiron

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/02/13 01:19 AM

nothing, not me
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/02/13 01:23 AM

Thought you were trying to say that I was slowing down because I'm older than you?
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/02/13 01:58 AM

Centerforce is no longer producing 18 spline discs so whatever you find is old stock.I got the "backorder" runaround when I was looking for a new CF DF disc so I ordered a new McLeod 600 series disc from Jamie Passon.
I'm gonna try the Centerforce II plate with the McLeod 600 series disc and see how that works out
Gus

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Posted By: Stanton

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/02/13 04:32 AM

Shoulda tried Summit ... stocked item !!!
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/02/13 03:25 PM

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Shoulda tried Summit ... stocked item !!!



So does Jegs.
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/03/13 12:12 AM

Called Jegs and went to the counter at Summit and NEITHER store had the 11" 18 spline dual friction disc in the stock. That is when I called Jamie and he didn't have any left and told me why.
So I ended up with the McLeod
Gus

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Posted By: Stanton

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/03/13 04:42 AM

Don't know when you did that but last night on Summits site it showed the disc part would ship immediately, meaning in stock. Jegs showed a few days delay, meaning no stock.

I just order the pp and disc as a kit from Jegs, ships Monday.

When did you get that pp on clearance from Summit? Is that an "in store" deal only?
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/03/13 04:13 PM

The plate I got from Summit was on the clearance and return tables.In the store they put all kinds of stuff out there, some scratch and dent items and some wrongly ordered parts.
When I bought the plate I walked up to the counter to buy the matching disc and they were on backorder according to my sales "professional".
So I then asked about the DFX disc and they told me it would take 6-8 weeks for my order so I said no thanks and called Jamie for a comparable disc.
Gus

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Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/03/13 04:27 PM

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So I then asked about the DFX disc and they told me it would take 6-8 weeks for my order.....




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The only reason I went with the Ram disc was because the DFX disc was on back order when I was ready for it. I changed my mind about the DFX disc due to cost if for no other reason.



This must have been earlier this year. Around April or May. That's about the time I was looking to buy a DFX disc.
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/04/13 12:01 AM

Yeah Larry that was early summer when I was considering changing my clutch and transmission for the summer. But then the stick race was announced for Norwalk so I left the race setup in it for that race.
Hindsight being 20-20 I might have been able to drive it home with the new clutch instead of that f-ing Ram disc that failed
Gus

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Posted By: 68LAR

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/04/13 12:22 AM

Gus,
It sure is a co-inky-dink that, You, my son and I, all wiped out the same type of Ram disc within a few weeks of each other.
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: A very very nice stick car - 11/04/13 02:33 AM

There's a thread over on UMTR with a racer that had the exact same failure of a Ram disc as I did.
Gus

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