Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end

Posted By: hemi-itis

Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 04:15 PM

This past Saturday at Englishtown I had a freeze out plug come out just past the 1000 ft mark.Was on a good pass,went 6.4 in the 8th @ 110 pullin like a freight train when the rear washed out sending me side ways.I did my best but still tagged the wall with the left fender and the right front tire blew when it curled under,wrecked the rim too.

Looks like bolt in plugs and a belly pan are in my near future.
Still looking for a left fender & park housing.
All skid marks were on the track

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 04:17 PM

Still went 10.60 @ 85 mph sideways over the finish line

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 04:18 PM

Thanks Lee for starting the other thread

Posted By: FastmOp

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 04:29 PM

I feel for you. Sux to crunch such a cool car. I will keep an eye out for a parts car.
Fix the stuff needed to get back out there and do body work this winter. It's still an awsome car even with "a little stripper chaffing"

Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 04:36 PM

Dang: Glad it wasn't worse.

Sheldon

Posted By: ZIPPY

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 04:39 PM

Oh man that sucks big time...glad you are OK!

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 05:04 PM

Thanks guys

I'm glad it didn't dig in and barrel roll.That would be a different out come for sure.Felt like I slid for 5 minutes.

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 05:06 PM

Still looking for a left fender if anyone knows of one

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 05:15 PM

Sorry to hear about the mishap Al, You will find the parts and get it fixed. It was lucky the car didn't roll.

Posted By: roadhazard

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 05:16 PM

WoW glad your OK!
Damage could have been ALOT worse if it wasn't for your gold certified driving skillzz

Posted By: Crizila

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 05:38 PM

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Still looking for a left fender if anyone knows of one

Maybe look to run a leak-down test also. Glad to see you saved it from a lot worse fate

Posted By: RMCHRGR

That'll buff out - 08/01/13 05:49 PM

I took this pic on Sunday, it was the first thing I saw as I got in to the pits. I recognized the car right away and was bummed to see it all crumpled up. As I was looking at it on the flat bed he came up and told me what happened. We talked a little and he didn't seem terribly upset. Like we say here in NY whadayagonnado?

In the end, it's just a car and it can be fixed. Hate to think of what could have happened if he was unable to 'make the save'.

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Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 05:56 PM

Thats a major BUMMER

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 06:15 PM

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Thats a major BUMMER

Could ALWAYS be worse

POOP happenz

There's a 1st time for everything

I tow for the PD,after the wrecks I've seen this ian't s%$t!!

Also flat spotted the other 3 tires.Has the E/T streets on the rear that were fresh this year

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 06:21 PM

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Thats a major BUMMER

Could ALWAYS be worse
POOP happenz
There's a 1st time for everything

I tow for the PD,after the wrecks I've seen this ian't s%$t!!

Also flat spotted the other 3 tires.Has the E/T streets on the rear that were fresh this year

Sure could have been worse... you could be in a box

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 06:31 PM

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Thats a major BUMMER

Could ALWAYS be worse
POOP happenz
There's a 1st time for everything

I tow for the PD,after the wrecks I've seen this ian't s%$t!!

Also flat spotted the other 3 tires.Has the E/T streets on the rear that were fresh this year

Sure could have been worse... you could be in a box

We all face that everytime we put the hammer down

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Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 06:54 PM

A freind of mine had the same thing happen years ago at Speed World in the finals of a 10.5 tire Outaw race, he qualified #1, set low ET and top MPH and won the final

BUT a passenger side freeze plug in the head popped out right at the finish line sending him into the left guard rail at 173.+ MPH, he bounced off that rail and bounced accross the track to right guard rail and bounced off of that and ended up in the middle of the track

Luckily he didn't hit his competitor in the other lane

It did totaled the car

He was bruise and shook up but other than that he was unhurt, that is the major thing. They welded all the freeze plugs up in the heads after that. (it was a 460 type Furd

)He was on the phone the next day, Monday, trying to get a new chassis built so he could race at the next race that month

Drag racing can get in your blood

I'm glad your oaky and not hurt and the car is fixable

Posted By: Wv68charger

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 07:02 PM

Sorry to see this

glad your ok!
hope you get her together again soon.

Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 07:04 PM

That sukzzzz and luckily you`re ok and the damage is minimal.............

Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 07:07 PM

Hate to see this! Hope you get it fixed soon!

Posted By: CompWedgeEngines

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 07:10 PM

Glad your ok AL...could have been a real mess.

Three things that cause soft plug failures.

1)Shallow type soft plugs. I hate them. I only use deep plugs . Period.
2) Detonation and vibration. Enuff said.
3) Painted or dirty soft plug bores. When people paint blocks, they often dont tape off ( or clean afterwartds) the paint in the soft plug openings. Paint wont help the problem.

I lightly clean the bore, a small bead of #2 Permatex, three " stakes" with a chisel, and never an issue.Some circle track builds take a different approach with a more positive lock procedure. I also do use brass plugs, as I believe they conform better to the bores, and have more bite...

Posted By: LAR_414

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 07:22 PM

For the block, why not tack weld a "bur" to the block once the plugs are in. Hit it up on 3 or 4 spots around the plug and then it won't "Pop" out.

I may do that the next time my engine is out of the car!

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 07:26 PM

Had the deep ones in there,not staked.I think I will go with the bolt in style

Posted By: DusterDave

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 07:34 PM

Glad that you were able to save it! Getting sideways at that speed must have been a "pucker ride" for sure!!

You might want to consider installing a 'chute.

Posted By: Paul_Fancsali

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 07:37 PM

Put a layer of Good silicone sealer on the outside whole plug they will not come out if you let it totally setup. And if you dojn't have to hit them hard get another plug DO NOT USE THE RUBBER BOLT IN TYPE

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 07:43 PM

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Glad that you were able to save it! Getting sideways at that speed must have been a "pucker ride" for sure!!
You might want to consider installing a 'chute.

Thanks Dave,I'm on line to get in the chassis shop for "J" bars,knee bar and chute mounts

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 07:53 PM

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Put a layer of Good silicone sealer on the outside whole plug they will not come out if you let it totally setup. And if you dojn't have to hit them hard get another plug DO NOT USE THE RUBBER BOLT IN TYPE

Thanks Paul,I don't use RUBBERS

Posted By: Dap

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 07:56 PM

Al it sux for sure but it could have been much worse. Glad your ok.

Posted By: MrSixpack

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 08:26 PM

I blew a FP on my friends FED with a blown/racegas 392 Hemi.
Not fun when the engine is in front of you and you get soaked with HOT water on the finish line.
I now own the car and it will get a blown KB hemi and methanol and no cooler needed.

Hope you get it back together soon

Posted By: 383man

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 09:25 PM

Wow I am just glad your ok.

I hate seeing your 63 banged up but as was said it can be repaired. Wish I had some extra body parts for you but I dont. Ron

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 09:30 PM

Ron,you'd better tack the bolts holdin yer left fender on

Posted By: 383man

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/01/13 11:06 PM

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Ron,you'd better tack the bolts holdin yer left fender on

Dont worry as my 63 will stay locked in my garage for a bit with my two killer guard dogs watching over it.

Ron

Posted By: MrFoFody

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 02:22 AM

That sucks but it could have been worse. Looks like you drove good enough to save it.

Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 02:29 AM

could have been worse. glad you are ok. Buddy of mine had a similar issue, his hose went, same deal pushed the fender into the rail... his is a 62 4 door. Hope you can find a fender and get it back down the track soon.

Posted By: mopartoby

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 02:34 AM

Last time that happened to me it was in the burnout box, and it popped out due to my head gasket failing and pressurising my cooling system. U may wanna look into that

Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 02:47 AM

Sorry for the damage.....Happy to hear your ok Al....that's what's important

Rickster

Posted By: topside

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 03:09 AM

Glad it wasn't worse.
I have a park lamp housing but that's all, lemme know if you need it. Lenses are repopped and widely available. Try Tony's Parts for a fender, unless you want to go 'glass.

Posted By: Dragula

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 03:21 AM

Ouch, glad your alright....

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 04:25 AM

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Ron,you'd better tack the bolts holdin yer left fender on

Dont worry as my 63 will stay locked in my garage for a bit with my two killer guard dogs watching over it. Ron

Those dogs look pretty mean

Will they lick me to death?

Posted By: Michael

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 04:27 AM

I'm glad you're ok Al.

Posted By: OhioMopar

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 04:35 AM

Man, I really like that car. I hope you can get it straightened out. Glad you came out of it with the shiny side up.

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 04:42 AM

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Last time that happened to me it was in the burnout box, and it popped out due to my head gasket failing and pressurising my cooling system. U may wanna look into that

That is on the top of the list.Will have some bolt in style plugs on Tuesday.I'll just install the missing one for now so I can run the car and check the cooling system for hydrocarbons.If it is in fact a head gasket leaking with the increased boost,the motor has to come out to pop the heads

The event at E/town last weekend was the National Speedway/Hampton Raceway reunion with an award ceremony for the greats of drag racing from Long Island.I was invited to display my car as it's been raced on Long Island for over 40 years

NOT the way I wanted to be remembered at this event

Posted By: n20mstr

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 04:55 AM

from looking at the pics.....i think that fender could be fixed...

call Thriftway, tell em a little pull with some weld on tabs and a few taps with some tension on the fender, you be surprised what memory metal has. It might straighten out pretty good

Sorry to hear about your misfortune, and YEA it could have been a lot worse.

Posted By: fullmetaljacket

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 05:10 AM

As the saying goes, "Let sleeping Dogs lie" as you unbolt the fender. I'll keep an eye out for Ron. LOL
Al, you're a good friend and a fun presence at any event, Very fortunate that you steered clear of the medivac and hospital. Your experience has me spooked, but thinking.
But as they say in Drag racing, get back in the saddle as quick as you can to shake off the jitters. Just don't shake out another FP.

Posted By: Bigbeep

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 05:48 AM

I am going to a sale later in the month that has a 63 in it. I will look at it closely as that is one of the reasons I am going is for various old b bodies. Beep

Posted By: 383man

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 06:00 AM

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Ron,you'd better tack the bolts holdin yer left fender on

Dont worry as my 63 will stay locked in my garage for a bit with my two killer guard dogs watching over it. Ron

Those dogs look pretty mean

Will they lick me to death?

Thats about the only way they would hurt you as they love all people. You give them a treat and you got them as friends for life.

Seriously though I am very glad you did not get hurt. The only spare parts I have for a 63 right now is a hood. Ron

Posted By: quickd100

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 11:16 AM

Glad you're OK Al, hate to see a beautiful car like your scarred up but it's easily fixed. Are you sure the only skid marks are on the track??? If that happened to me it would be running down my pant legs.

Hope it's fixed soon.

Dave

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 12:51 PM

Tony,Joe & John were there.The end of the fender took a good shot

BUt you may be right,they don't make metal like that anymore!

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 12:53 PM

You guy are the best !!!The response has been GREAT

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 01:26 PM

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Glad you're OK Al, hate to see a beautiful car like your scarred up but it's easily fixed. Are you sure the only skid marks are on the track??? If that happened to me it would be running down my pant legs. Hope it's fixed soon. Dave

Drawers were clean

The safty crew were there before I could get my helmut off!
The guy at my drivers window made sure I was OK,then advised me to climb out the passenger side 'cause if I opened the door it would further the damage.Got out and was joking with the safety crew.When they asked me "Are you hurt in any way??

My reply was I was in no worse shape then when I entered the car

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 01:31 PM

After I got towed off the track,I went and got my flatbed to load my wrecked junkup and went back to our pit.
Then It was time to feed the boys.I had brought 10 lbs of skirt steak,pot salad,mac salad,soda etc.We sat around the pit tellin war stories 'till they shut the lights off in the pits

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 01:32 PM

Yum,Yum!!!!!!!!

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Posted By: tboomer

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 02:30 PM

Glad you are ok,Al...That could have been much worse!!

Posted By: topside

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 04:35 PM

Check your email, Al.

Posted By: rickseeman

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 05:11 PM

Nobody wants to see something like this happen, but hopefully it will sell some diapers to your buddys and when this happens to them it will be a non event. I have been in your shoes and it was very depressing and a lot of work/money/time to get it back together. Today it looks like new and I'm a little wiser. Stuff happens. Do what you can to minimize it happening to you.

Posted By: actionange

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/02/13 07:11 PM

Glad to see you came out unscathed minus your wallet.
WOW! Sorry I missed that cookout.
Get it fixed and put it all behind you.

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/03/13 05:16 AM

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Glad to see you came out unscathed minus your wallet.
WOW! Sorry I missed that cookout.
Get it fixed and put it all behind you.

I am aligning parts with stuff being picked up at the Nats and some being mailed.Soon as I get the parts together it will go right into the body shop and get done.

Yea Ange,you missed a hell ova party!!

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/03/13 05:17 AM

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Nobody wants to see something like this happen, but hopefully it will sell some diapers to your buddys and when this happens to them it will be a non event. I have been in your shoes and it was very depressing and a lot of work/money/time to get it back together. Today it looks like new and I'm a little wiser. Stuff happens. Do what you can to minimize it happening to you.

I'm thinkin bellypan VS diaper

Posted By: RalphsRapidTrnst

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/03/13 06:03 PM

Sorry to see and hear

. Glad your OK

Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/03/13 07:38 PM

Sorry to hear about the carnage. I feel you pain had the same thing happen to me in my blown Barracuda. Leaned my lesson and have never run a block without at least pinning the freeze plugs sense. Hopefully you will get it back together and good as new soon.

Posted By: Crizila

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/04/13 01:08 AM

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You guy are the best !!!The response has been GREAT

Too bad none of them address the cause

. Until that happens, you could be in for some more pain. I truly hope it was just a bad install on one plug.

Posted By: topside

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/04/13 02:56 AM

Well, I gotta ask, Al: what does "pot salad" taste like?

Posted By: BeEtLeJuIcE !

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/04/13 04:30 AM

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I'm thinkin bellypan AND A diaper ...and a DEPENDS for the owner/driver ....

FIXED ....

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/04/13 05:29 AM

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I'm thinkin bellypan AND A diaper ...and a DEPENDS for the owner/driver ....

FIXED ....

There ya go DoC,givin my secrets away

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/04/13 05:31 AM

There's a new ride at the track,it's called "slip & slide"

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/05/13 02:21 AM

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Well, I gotta ask, Al: what does "pot salad" taste like?

Hard to describe

You'll have to stop at my pit and try some

Posted By: Cudafied

Re: Blew out a freeze plug on the BIG end - 08/05/13 04:06 AM

Hey Al,
Sorry to hear about your mishap. Glad your ok and the car is fixable.
Paul