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Posted By: buck440

need opinions - 02/05/13 01:00 AM

hi guy's just gitn some opinons on what cam you guy's would run ? here's my engine combo so far. std bore 440 with trw 2295 dome pistons. i beleive they are 11.5 comp. stealth heads milled 0.30 mild port work. team g intake 4500 flange port matched to heads. i will be running proparts 2" primary header's 3500 stall 4.10 gear 28" tire in a 3200lb duster. oh would like to run a 1050 dominator carb whatcha think?
Posted By: sr4440

Re: need opinions - 02/05/13 01:38 AM

If I were you, I would lose the heavy TRW's. you will be much happier in the long run.

Joe
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/05/13 01:44 AM

yeah i know buti had em layin round didnt cost much. im budget building right now
Posted By: 68valiant68

Re: need opinions - 02/05/13 03:20 AM

Strip only? Or street-strip?
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/05/13 04:53 AM

mostly strip ocassional street i was thinkin bout the comp xtreme energy high lift 564 lift hyd.
Posted By: Mopar-Al

Re: need opinions - 02/05/13 08:58 AM

You may like the MP 590
Posted By: rebel

Re: need opinions - 02/05/13 09:59 AM

i had good luck with Hughes cams, good strong power on hotted up stock parts. i'd look at a cam thats somewhere near 250@50 in their collection.
Posted By: Dodgem

Re: need opinions - 02/05/13 04:15 PM

This the cam your thinking about?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-cl21-229-4/overview/make/chrysler

should work fine degreed in at about 103.

Why only a 3500 stall??
Posted By: 74yellowduster

Re: need opinions - 02/05/13 04:42 PM

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hi guy's just gitn some opinons on what cam you guy's would run ? here's my engine combo so far. std bore 440 with trw 2295 dome pistons. i beleive they are 11.5 comp. stealth heads milled 0.30 mild port work. team g intake 4500 flange port matched to heads. i will be running proparts 2" primary header's 3500 stall 4.10 gear 28" tire in a 3200lb duster. oh would like to run a 1050 dominator carb whatcha think?




with that carb intake compression you could probably go .600 lift easy IF you have the right springs, rockers, etc. and can have the pistons cleared to the valves for that lift.

if using stock rockers and dont want to cut the pistons you should probably not go so big and still should thoroghly check the piston/valve clearances
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/05/13 11:31 PM

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This the cam your thinking about?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-cl21-229-4/overview/make/chrysler

should work fine degreed in at about 103.

Why only a 3500 stall??


yep that's the cam. 3500 stall is what i have laying round at the moment. race season is almost here just wanna have something throwed together to run that'all. till i build my 451. thanks for the reply
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/05/13 11:33 PM

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You may like the MP 590


the 590 is mechanical not hyd. right ?
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/06/13 10:29 PM

Posted By: Joes66dart

Re: need opinions - 02/06/13 10:44 PM

MP 590 is what we run and have been very happy with it. It is a solid lift cam.
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/07/13 02:17 AM

thanks. do you guy's think the 509 would make good power with this combo?
Posted By: SG duster

Re: need opinions - 02/07/13 05:52 AM

yea, ol 509 will be fine. particuly since you have one already
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/08/13 02:05 AM

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yea, ol 509 will be fine. particuly since you have one already


no im lookin into cams. alway's ran the tried and true 509 but i want a little more. so any advise is apreciated
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: need opinions - 02/08/13 02:17 AM

The 590 will make a lot more power than the 509, and would be my pick. Dial it in very early (102?) due to the tight converter, shift it at 6,000.
Posted By: 493_DART

Re: need opinions - 02/08/13 02:21 AM

Call Hughes Engines - they are "Mopar only " cam designers.

I run one of their solid flat tappet grinds-----love it .
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/08/13 02:44 AM

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The 590 will make a lot more power than the 509, and would be my pick. Dial it in very early (102?) due to the tight converter, shift it at 6,000.


thanks what bout the 557 mp shaft? sorry if i keep askin a bunch of questions but i dont have much mechanical cam exp.
Posted By: Crizila

Re: need opinions - 02/08/13 04:07 AM

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Call Hughes Engines - they are "Mopar only " cam designers.

I run one of their solid flat tappet grinds-----love it .


Some of the best Mopar cams out there IMO.
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: need opinions - 02/08/13 03:14 PM

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The 590 will make a lot more power than the 509, and would be my pick. Dial it in very early (102?) due to the tight converter, shift it at 6,000.


thanks what bout the 557 mp shaft? sorry if i keep askin a bunch of questions but i dont have much mechanical cam exp.


The 590 is longer duration, more lift and makes more hp. For basic bracket combos, this is about as radical as you need (or should) go. It will have enough bottom end to work OK with your converter, but there will be ET left on the table with any of the cams discussed and staying with the 3500 stall converter. Any of the cams listed here would be happier with another 1,000 rpm stall speed.
Another thing is carb size. I wouldn't go with anything bigger than an 850 with a tight converter like that. If you want to run a Domintor, you will need a lot more rpm (stall) to make it work. What crank, rods and oiling system are you planning on using? Three are some options for making a LOT more hp if you start now with the proper upgrades.
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/10/13 01:10 AM

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The 590 will make a lot more power than the 509, and would be my pick. Dial it in very early (102?) due to the tight converter, shift it at 6,000.


thanks what bout the 557 mp shaft? sorry if i keep askin a bunch of questions but i dont have much mechanical cam exp.


The 590 is longer duration, more lift and makes more hp. For basic bracket combos, this is about as radical as you need (or should) go. It will have enough bottom end to work OK with your converter, but there will be ET left on the table with any of the cams discussed and staying with the 3500 stall converter. Any of the cams listed here would be happier with another 1,000 rpm stall speed.
Another thing is carb size. I wouldn't go with anything bigger than an 850 with a tight converter like that. If you want to run a Domintor, you will need a lot more rpm (stall) to make it work. What crank, rods and oiling system are you planning on using? Three are some options for making a LOT more hp if you start now with the proper upgrades.


im using stock bottom end and iknow the super heavy sixpack rods. high po oil pump 402 6qt pan. you think it would like a 4000 stall better? like i said im just throwing part's i have lying round together oh the rotating assembly has been balanced if that helps any hughes engines sent me based on my info a rather small cam they selected imo.but they know more than me. heh3237bl 110 lsa,1.5 int.lift @50 .540,exh.@50 548 intake duration @50 232degrees exh.237 intake opening at 50 9deg.tdc ex.51.5 cylinder pressure of 165 recomended 2000-5500 sweet spot for best et shift at 5800 6000rpm whatcha think?
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/10/13 06:37 AM

huh
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: need opinions - 02/10/13 01:53 PM

I would run what you have for now. You might even run as fast shifting at 5500 rpm? The main thing with the oiling system you have is do not run real loose bearing clearances and heavy oil. You can easily pump the pan dry with only six quarts of oil to work with. It might be a good idea to run a 30 psi oil sending switch and add a warning light. Screws into the back top of the block oil passage. That way you will have a warning if pressure gets low.
Posted By: MRMOPAR622

Re: need opinions - 02/10/13 04:35 PM

You can get a Doug Herbert Roller camshaft & lifters for about the same price as a flat tappet camshaft & lifters.If you are on a tight budget they are hard to beat.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: need opinions - 02/10/13 05:47 PM

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. high po oil pump 402 6qt pan.




the 402 is not a 6qt pan ... unless someone modified the sump ..., it's a 4qt sump + 1 for the filter. I'd put a bigger pan on it ...
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/10/13 08:37 PM

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. high po oil pump 402 6qt pan.




the 402 is not a 6qt pan ... unless someone modified the sump ..., it's a 4qt sump + 1 for the filter. I'd put a bigger pan on it ...


meant to say hi pressure not volume and my 402 non modified holds 5qt plus hp1 filter 1 more 6qt's correct?
Posted By: buck440

Re: need opinions - 02/11/13 03:51 AM

ok guy's think im goin with the 590 mopar shaft. hopefully i have no valve to piston clearance prob's. so degree it at 102 cause of the tight converter? well scratch that had a friend give me a 557 purple shaft tonight. guess that's the route we are takin now lol.

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