Moparts

430 Small Block Mopar build.....

Posted By: DJVCuda

430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/17/13 06:38 PM

Auto Enthusiast has a 6 month story ongoing with my 430.

Currently Month 1 is out and Month 2 has just been published.

you can read the online here:


430 Month 1



430 Month 2
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/17/13 06:50 PM

Dave,

What were the grind numbers of both your cams?

I've got a new stroker in the works
Posted By: Truck Y'all !

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/17/13 06:53 PM

Looks like an article full of helpful info. Out of curiosity, did you consider using Mopar's small block casting? It has siamese bores and can easily deliver 440 cubes without too much hassle.

Was cost the main factor? I know the block ain't cheap but you might have made up for it by saving on machining expense.
Posted By: BPE

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/17/13 07:01 PM

"Long Overhaul" is right.

Rod
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/17/13 08:50 PM

Quote:

Dave,

What were the grind numbers of both your cams?

I've got a new stroker in the works




the big cam was ur 258/262, Lift .639/645 w/ 1.5's


the small cam was a comp XR280R

they both made the same torque, no matter what intake, head, or anything else we threw at it - although the RPM range changed significantly.
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/17/13 08:51 PM

Quote:

Looks like an article full of helpful info. Out of curiosity, did you consider using Mopar's small block casting? It has siamese bores and can easily deliver 440 cubes without too much hassle.

Was cost the main factor? I know the block ain't cheap but you might have made up for it by saving on machining expense.




Yes I considered it Jon - I had the X block sitting here collecting dust.
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/17/13 08:52 PM

Quote:

"Long Overhaul" is right.

Rod




With a little extra emphasis on the " LONG" part...lol
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/17/13 09:22 PM

Loooking back on the build, I'm thinking about doing something very similar and just trying out the Airwolfs.

I have a 360 block but might try to find a 4.22" max bore Siamese if the right deal comes along.

torque is definately more short block configuration, displacement and then compression related, peak torque is your maximum Volumetric Efficency point, I like to get there as early as feasible to suit the combo (lower RPM is easier on the block) and then rely on the heads and induction to keep it as close to peak torque for as long as possible...it's the best way to make reliable and consistent street strip power IMHO.

This chart is very telling, look at how broad the curve is.....at least 495 lb/ft from 3800 to 6700 rpm. An excellent rule of thumb is if you are at 85-90% of peak torque over a braod RPM range your converter stall flash and shift recovery RPM can pretty much fall anywhere in that range and it won't make too much performance difference, the car is still gonna move. Another advantage for bracket racing is your shift points are not as critical to remain consistent, many of us have seen tracks with slick spots or bumps where we had to short shift to keep from breaking traction. The more "peaky" the torque curve, the more critical the vert has to match up.

While your torque curve is flat your power curve is essentially linear (hp gain per every 100rpm)

Attached picture 7550953-Airwolf7.jpg
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 02/21/13 05:39 PM

Month 3 is out - Pre-assembly & Balancing

430 Month 3
Posted By: fishy340

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 02/21/13 06:52 PM

Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 02/21/13 07:08 PM

Have you considered stepping the camshaft up even more? Seems like there is still room to grow.
Posted By: 383man

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 02/21/13 07:30 PM

Dave do you have any info to get a subscription to that mag ? After mine was switched to Muusclecar Enthuiest when Mopar Enthuiest went under I let that mag run out. But I was thinking about getting it again and now with your story in it I think I might get it again. Is the eng done and in the car Dave as of now ? Thanks , Ron
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 02/22/13 02:21 AM

Quote:

Have you considered stepping the camshaft up even more? Seems like there is still room to grow.




Yes, but I'm in the middle of a few other things right now - A little more duration would seem to help the numbers IMO
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 02/22/13 02:23 AM

Quote:

Dave do you have any info to get a subscription to that mag ? After mine was switched to Muusclecar Enthuiest when Mopar Enthuiest went under I let that mag run out. But I was thinking about getting it again and now with your story in it I think I might get it again. Is the eng done and in the car Dave as of now ? Thanks , Ron




Hey Ron - you can go to this link :
SUBSCRIPTION PAGE

I wish the car was ready, but I have a 68 Cuda that is waiting to get some work done and have this sucker drop in it.
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 04/19/13 01:26 AM

They don't list all the info they out in print- such as cfm ratings port volume and such but here is month 4 of 6
Month 4
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 07/04/13 03:15 PM

Month 5. Was just posted

It's the final assembly process.

Last one coming up. Dyne testing.
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 08/22/13 03:29 PM

6th and FINAL month!!!


In the books!
Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 08/22/13 04:46 PM

Nice, easy read Dave. Now stick that thing in a car already!
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/08/14 03:19 PM

Bump in reference to stroke / rod thread.
Posted By: ademon

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/08/14 04:32 PM

Nice work
Posted By: Skeptic

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/09/14 05:28 AM

Is this replacing the tunnel rammed 360?
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: 430 Small Block Mopar build..... - 01/09/14 02:54 PM

No Way!
I've got a 68 Cuda to wrap around it - but time and family are slowing down those plans...
© 2024 Moparts Forums