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6bt Cummins in an abody?

Posted By: SLOW67

6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/27/12 06:39 PM

Just found a nice running early 12v for a steal, What are your thoughts on a cummins fitment in an abody? Will it weigh more than a iron headed BB? Need a lift pump to the IP? Just throwing this out for discussion...
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/27/12 06:58 PM

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Just found a nice running early 12v for a steal, What are your thoughts on a cummins fitment in an abody? Will it weigh more than a iron headed BB? Need a lift pump to the IP? Just throwing this out for discussion...



LOL... that engine weights about 900-1000 lbs... better
get some new T-bars.... but if its in good shape and
its a steal its worth picking it up(at least it is
to me)
Posted By: dogdays

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/27/12 07:01 PM

Usually run around 1100 lb.

Buy the engine, put it in something that can use it, or sell it to a board member.

Here's the way to estimate how much it weighs: Imagine a 318-powered A-body with another 318 minus manifolds bolted on the hood.

R.
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/27/12 07:01 PM

I've thought about this too but I think the 4BT would be a better fit.
Posted By: SpareParts

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/27/12 07:59 PM

I think all the weight would counteract any kind of weight transfer and you are going to have a ton of torque around 1000 rpm to attempt to hook.
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/27/12 08:57 PM

I could be wrong, but I think the radiator would have to mount where the front bumper would normally go to fit that monster in there.
Posted By: bwdst6

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/27/12 09:05 PM

I don’t get it, if you want to go cheap. Put a SBC in there!
Posted By: HotRodDave

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/27/12 09:25 PM

I feel sorry for the ball joints in there

Also they are very tall and would require a 6 pack scoop stretched from the front of the hood to the cowl just to cover it all up. Plus to get the crank center-line correct you would have to shrink the oil pan or it will drag the ground or raise the trans tunnel from front to back a few inches or maybe a combination of both.
Posted By: rt66jim

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/27/12 11:54 PM

The biggest problem I would have. The #6 rod is right beside your right knee. I've seen the whole they make when they come out of the block. Not pretty.
Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/28/12 12:22 AM

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Just found a nice running early 12v for a steal, What are your thoughts on a cummins fitment in an abody? Will it weigh more than a iron headed BB? Need a lift pump to the IP? Just throwing this out for discussion...



I don't see any problems or drawbacks with the swap. You are planning on using it in the 2 wheel drive 'sled pulls' aren't you? Front weight is needed.
Posted By: tjmarcus1

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/28/12 12:45 AM

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I don’t get it, if you want to go cheap. Put a SBC in there!

When you say "sbc", you DO mean Small Block Chrysler, don't you?
Posted By: bwdst6

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/28/12 01:16 AM

No, it's pretty well known how cheap a small block Chevy combo is!!!
Posted By: Triggerfish

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/28/12 02:24 AM

Put it in the back seat of a 68 Cuda & call it "Cummins under Glass"
Posted By: Dragula

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/28/12 03:00 AM

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Just found a nice running early 12v for a steal, What are your thoughts on a cummins fitment in an abody? Will it weigh more than a iron headed BB? Need a lift pump to the IP? Just throwing this out for discussion...



You could buy my ProStreet '78 D100 and throw it in there. It fits, and I know it does. I thought about doing it a few times...THe 6-speed trans will help keep weight down a little.
Posted By: 70dusterjohn

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/28/12 03:47 PM

Do what you what, I had a friend that had one laying around, along with a mudtang put them together and and ran them, now that being said it ran like poop for a year before he got it figured out and made some steam, I think when it was all said and done when he sold it, it was running 9.00s ? I think I have some video's some where...
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/29/12 12:08 AM



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Posted By: Defbob

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/29/12 12:09 AM

Oh, You meant a Chrysler A-body... my bad

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Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/29/12 12:45 AM

Move the fire wall back a foot or so then replace the front shocks with a 4/4 so it won't sag and use those 28 inch rims so the oil pan don't hit. That should get you started, oh yea forgot the wheel barrow full of money.
Posted By: emarine01

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/29/12 01:18 AM

We race with dodge trucks that have spent over 30k on mods for that engine, They are not even close to competive in the mud... but they sound mean
Posted By: pinkduster

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/29/12 02:20 AM

I was just looking at a magazine at the book store that had a late 60s Caddy with a Cummins 6bt. Also, search Youtube for the early 70s Monte Carlo with a 24 valve CTD. Sure, it's not going to work in an A-body, but I don't see why it couldn't be done in an Imperial or a 71-74 Charger. You would think that the Monte Carlo and the Charger have similarly sized engine compartments.
Posted By: HOTMOPR

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/29/12 04:27 AM

A 6 bt is a 3' cube for a idea of size. They are 3' from edge of turbo to edge of pump. 3' from front of engine pully to bellhousing flange and 3' from top of valve cover to bottom of oil pan. I though about cramming one into my barracuda. I had a 95 standard cab 4x4 that ran mid 12s at 6800 lbs. drop 3200 lbs and it would be fun..
Posted By: Blues_Cuda

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/29/12 04:50 AM

There are a couple 70 or 71 Monte Carlos in St. Louis with turbo diesels in them.

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Posted By: go green

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/29/12 04:55 AM

Its the last frontier IMO. The diesel drags are still attainable for entrepreneurial people .I am trying to convince my cousin to go halfers on a max effort car to destroy the class now .
Posted By: buck440

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? - 12/29/12 04:47 PM

put a straight axle under it gasser style.
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