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another track switches to 1/8 mile
Posted By: dartman366
another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 02:07 AM
in super pro,,National Trails here in Ohio announced Sat. Dec 22 that the format will be 1/8 for S/P but so far no other classes will change
seem's like S/P is the wrong class to be in anymore,,Wonder if that holds true for venues like Mopower events and Mopar Nats???
Posted By: slippery440
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 02:34 AM
Dumb question. Why just S/P clsss?
Posted By: Locomotion
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 02:38 AM
S/P because they are faster. Doesn't the track have less shutdown than most other 1/4 mile tracks. May also have something to do with insurance.
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 02:44 AM
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Dumb question. Why just S/P clsss?
guess they took a poll and the drivers preferred 1/8 mile citing safer and easier on parts.
Yes Myron, it is a fairly short shutdown, I and numerous others have not had a problem but we are not running 150-160 mph eather. 
Posted By: Locomotion
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 02:56 AM
Ok. A little surprised that it was voted on, but that's probably one of the better reasons since the racers wanted it!
Have you heard about what's in the works for Columbus May 2-4, 2014?
Long thread, but interesting if anyone is interested in class cars. Should be quite a show with an incredible variety of doorslammers. I was at the original "Class Nationals" held in Byron many years ago. I think they will have a bracket class too!
"Class Nationals"
Posted By: dOoC
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 03:31 AM
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S/P because they are faster. Doesn't the track have less shutdown than most other 1/4 mile tracks. May also have something to do with insurance.
...and also ?? ... makes the eliminations go-through faster ?
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 03:42 AM
I will be keeping an eye on that date,sounds interesting, even if all I can do is watch.
Posted By: AAR-B4
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 02:35 PM
...and also ?? ... makes the eliminations go-through faster ?
Only if they open a turn-off gate.
I believe 1/8 mile S/P has made the door car more competitive.
It makes it possible to drive the finish line against the dragsters.
Posted By: Locomotion
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 02:40 PM
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I will be keeping an eye on that date,sounds interesting, even if all I can do is watch.
They said somewhere in there that they will have a bracket class or two as well!
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 02:53 PM
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...and also ?? ... makes the eliminations go-through faster ?
That is a misconception at many tracks. Since the driver now lifts 660 ft sooner, the car goes slower to the end and takes longer to get off the track.
If there is an early turn off, and the car stops fast enough to make it, then it can help. But that can be harder on the car braking system, and more dangerous than a more gradual braking to the end. So it depends...
I do believe the finish line speeds of the fast cars out there now-a-days is the primary reason when the track shut down area is not long enough.
Posted By: bwdst6
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 05:21 PM
Why would top speed become an issue now? They used to run a national event there, right? And that's when the fuel cars were still running the full 1/4 mile!
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 07:00 PM
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Why would top speed become an issue now? They used to run a national event there, right? And that's when the fuel cars were still running the full 1/4 mile!
A number of years ago they added an extention of the track across Refugee Road and actually installed a traffic light there to stop crossing traffic,,I don't believe they utilize that during a regular event, so the really fast cars don't have that benefit,,loose your laundry and you may be on the binder's pretty hard. 
Posted By: kissmyaspen
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 07:45 PM
top alky cars all get stopped fine.. most braket cars complain about the bump more than anything.
Posted By: Challenger 1
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 08:13 PM
They open a gate at the end for AAFC TAD cars that is not open normally and even then it is real hairy.
Posted By: kissmyaspen
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 10:40 PM
not anymore
Posted By: ProSport
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/26/12 11:54 PM
I bad talked 1/8 mile racing for years, til I tried it. Now it's what I like.
Easier on the car, use less fuel, get to make more runs in a day, race day is over sooner.
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 12:05 AM
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top alky cars all get stopped fine.. most braket cars complain about the bump more than anything.
"the bump" doesn't seem to bother my car,,,as a matter of fact I couldn't tell you what lane it's in,,,guess I'm just not fast enough. 
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 12:11 AM
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I bad talked 1/8 mile racing for years, til I tried it. Now it's what I like.
Easier on the car, use less fuel, get to make more runs in a day, race day is over sooner.
1/8th mile is ok as my home track is just that (Pacemakers),,I just like the fact that the actual ride lasts longer and a lot of things have been based on 1/4 mile times and MPH,,,I will still race at Trails,,just a little dissapointed
Posted By: Mopar-Al
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 12:25 AM
Maybe it lets a smallblock win a little more
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 01:27 AM
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Maybe it lets a smallblock win a little more
be nice now,,,
Posted By: Mopar-Al
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 01:38 AM
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Maybe it lets a smallblock win a little more
be nice now,,,
It's mostly all I ever see at all the local 1/8th mile tracks around here. Chevy x 40 plus 2 mopars and 3 fords
Posted By: fourgearsavoy
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 01:59 AM
I quit going to 42 for two reasons,The "bump" and the 1/8 mile deal. So many tracks going to 1/8 mile now and it's just no fun for a stick car with a 5-speed
the reason I like racing is to row the gears
I hate 1/8 mile tracks
Gus
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 02:04 AM
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I quit going to 42 for two reasons,The "bump" and the 1/8 mile deal. So many tracks going to 1/8 mile now and it's just no fun for a stick car with a 5-speed the reason I like racing is to row the gears
I hate 1/8 mile tracks
Gus
If i was told correctly the 1/8 mile is because of the bum,,,no wait, sink hole at dragway 42,,I like that track and the new 250' of concrete is nice,,but hang on at the 251' mark in eather lane. 
Posted By: cgall
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 03:31 AM
The bracket finals at Indy are 1/8th mile, so all the points chasers want to run 1/8th all year. Kind of sad, really, the changes that have been made. At big tracks like Indy and Edgewater, you have to remember not to let off completely or you will have to accelerate again to make it to the first turnout.
Posted By: SB412DUSTER
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 05:33 AM
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I quit going to 42 for two reasons,The "bump" and the 1/8 mile deal. So many tracks going to 1/8 mile now and it's just no fun for a stick car with a 5-speed the reason I like racing is to row the gears
I hate 1/8 mile tracks
Gus
Throw some more gear to it, You will still be rowing the gears 
Like said before try it you will like it
Posted By: gdonovan
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 10:44 AM
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in super pro,,National Trails here in Ohio announced Sat. Dec 22 that the format will be 1/8 for S/P but so far no other classes will change seem's like S/P is the wrong class to be in anymore,,Wonder if that holds true for venues like Mopower events and Mopar Nats???
I'm not surprised, I raced there one weekend with the Reliant and it was a little hairy. Seeing a steel gate looming at the end of the track is an unusual experience for me! I really had to work the brakes to make the turn off.
Posted By: gregsdart
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 01:02 PM
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I quit going to 42 for two reasons,The "bump" and the 1/8 mile deal. So many tracks going to 1/8 mile now and it's just no fun for a stick car with a 5-speed the reason I like racing is to row the gears
I hate 1/8 mile tracks
Gus
Regear for the last shift at 550 feet, and the excitment factor will go up, not down -less time, but you will be very busy 
Posted By: 360904
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 02:09 PM
Why not just make 1000 ft the new normal at all tracks
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 02:29 PM
Some don't understand but on a 1/8 mile track they add a new turn off so you can exit the track sooner. I hated it also @ 1st but now like it better,it speeds the race up you have less oil downs and its a lot easier on your engine.You use less fuel & that saves a little $$$.
Posted By: kissmyaspen
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 02:51 PM
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in super pro,,National Trails here in Ohio announced Sat. Dec 22 that the format will be 1/8 for S/P but so far no other classes will change seem's like S/P is the wrong class to be in anymore,,Wonder if that holds true for venues like Mopower events and Mopar Nats???
I'm not surprised, I raced there one weekend with the Reliant and it was a little hairy. Seeing a steel gate looming at the end of the track is an unusual experience for me! I really had to work the brakes to make the turn off.
what gate are you taking about at the end of the track? there are two gates along the right gaurd rail to block the opening... and this is only for E.T. points series... and they could run 1000' but you would not get a MPH.
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 03:20 PM
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Why not just make 1000 ft the new normal at all tracks
I like your thinking Denny. If you are going to shorten the tracks why not meet somewhat in the middle.
Posted By: THE GLASS MAN
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 06:12 PM
We had a track in Heath , Ohio which is 15 minutes away from National Trail Raceway, which was a 1000 foot track and the shut down was a hill and you could coast to your pit area. It was called 'Hyde Park Drag Strip". If you like rowing 5&6 speeds we also have a 1 mile track here in Willmington, Ohio for your speed runs.
Posted By: 360904
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 06:57 PM
Hyde Park Drag Strip is where Bud Gentile's 63 chevy step side p/u ruled the place, stop, I am showing my age......
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 07:17 PM
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Hyde Park Drag Strip is where Bud Gentile's 63 chevy step side p/u ruled the place, stop, I am showing my age......
Never been there, but I worked with a guy that used to race there,,,,back in the day.
Posted By: cgall
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 07:33 PM
The main problem with 1000' racing is that in order to make the true win and other features work, you have to get a new circuit board for your computer and it is $$$. That is not an issue with NHRA because they pass along all costs to the racers, but a local track that is barely making it couldn't do it.
Posted By: fishy340
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 07:45 PM
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I bad talked 1/8 mile racing for years, til I tried it. Now it's what I like.
Easier on the car, use less fuel, get to make more runs in a day, race day is over sooner. [/quote
I couldn't have said this any different its a blast. I see it happening more and more w 3200/3350 running mid to low 4s.
Posted By: bwdst6
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 08:41 PM
I know I’ve bad mouthed 1/8 mile racing for years. Tried it once and I now really bad mouth 1/8 mile racing! No top speed. Less racing, less feeling of speed, don’t use the car as much and spend less time racing while actually at the track. And the biggest reason is I really enjoy beating the he!! out of my vehicle!
Let the 1/8 mile vs 1/4 mile debate begin!
Posted By: 383man
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 10:46 PM
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I quit going to 42 for two reasons,The "bump" and the 1/8 mile deal. So many tracks going to 1/8 mile now and it's just no fun for a stick car with a 5-speed the reason I like racing is to row the gears
I hate 1/8 mile tracks
Gus
I am with Gus on this. So far the three closest tracks to me are still 1/4 mile but if its a windy day sometimes they will run the 1/8 and I just dont care for it. I like the more time you have in the 1/4 as it gives me more time to enjoy it even if I am only rowing a manual valve body. Ron
Posted By: gofish
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 11:10 PM
If you really like to row the car down the track, put a 5.57 gear in it an run the 1/8!
Danny
Posted By: fishy340
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 11:16 PM
Posted By: bwdst6
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 11:31 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=caYnaXk1XcI
boreing?
The total length of that video was 106 seconds. Only 4.90 seconds of which was action! Doing the math that is just under 5%. Baseball games, which are known for being as boring as mom, Chevrolet and apple pie have about 14 minutes of a broadcast time that is action. This works out to be about 11% of the total broadcast time, excluding commercials of course.
So to sum up that clip was twice as boring as a Major League Baseball game and that is saying a lot!!!!
Posted By: Dartari
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/27/12 11:43 PM
Posted By: CHAPPER
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 12:11 AM
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We had a track in Heath , Ohio which is 15 minutes away from National Trail Raceway, which was a 1000 foot track and the shut down was a hill and you could coast to your pit area. It was called 'Hyde Park Drag Strip". If you like rowing 5&6 speeds we also have a 1 mile track here in Willmington, Ohio for your speed runs.
I don't remember the track being 1000'. I thought it was 1/4 mile. Maybe that's why I liked that place so well.
Posted By: fishy340
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 12:18 AM
I know its so easy a mule can do it. Good thing the pinion snubber was set to the proper height lol
Posted By: AAR-B4
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 01:16 AM
The timers determine the race is over at the 1/8 mile. If you want to run it to the 1/4......do it!
Posted By: fourgearsavoy
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 03:43 AM
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If you really like to row the car down the track, put a 5.57 gear in it an run the 1/8!
Danny
I had 4.56 gears in the car from the 833 days and I tried them with the 5-speed(it has a 3.27 low gear)I was pulling second gear at the tree
Gus
Posted By: Eric
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 04:23 AM
I like them both...but if I have my choice I like 1/8th mile better.
Posted By: max_maniac
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 05:54 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=caYnaXk1XcI
boreing?
The total length of that video was 106 seconds. Only 4.90 seconds of which was action! Doing the math that is just under 5%. Baseball games, which are known for being as boring as mom, Chevrolet and apple pie have about 14 minutes of a broadcast time that is action. This works out to be about 11% of the total broadcast time, excluding commercials of course.
So to sum up that clip was twice as boring as a Major League Baseball game and that is saying a lot!!!!
YES --- boring!!!! 1/4 mile or nothing for me
If I can't run 1/4 mile I may just go back to street racing 
Russ
Posted By: THE GLASS MAN
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 05:10 PM
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We had a track in Heath , Ohio which is 15 minutes away from National Trail Raceway, which was a 1000 foot track and the shut down was a hill and you could coast to your pit area. It was called 'Hyde Park Drag Strip". If you like rowing 5&6 speeds we also have a 1 mile track here in Willmington, Ohio for your speed runs.
I don't remember the track being 1000'. I thought it was 1/4 mile. Maybe that's why I liked that place so well.
Hyde Park was 1000' until about 1965 and then they built a 1/4 mile track that went across the 1000' at an angle at that time. Track closed in about 1971. That was the first track that I raced on and that was 1967. Been racing Mopars ever since.
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 07:44 PM
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We had a track in Heath , Ohio which is 15 minutes away from National Trail Raceway, which was a 1000 foot track and the shut down was a hill and you could coast to your pit area. It was called 'Hyde Park Drag Strip". If you like rowing 5&6 speeds we also have a 1 mile track here in Willmington, Ohio for your speed runs.
I don't remember the track being 1000'. I thought it was 1/4 mile. Maybe that's why I liked that place so well.
Hyde Park was 1000' until about 1965 and then they built a 1/4 mile track that went across the 1000' at an angle at that time. Track closed in about 1971. That was the first track that I raced on and that was 1967. Been racing Mopars ever since.
I know Pacemakers was 1/4 mile at one time untill the cars got too fast and they didn't have the land to lengthen the track shut down and keep them out of the woods and the farmers corn field. 
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 07:45 PM
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 07:50 PM
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Bill you sure know how to stir up trouble ! 
You know me well, got to stir up a stink once in a while, can't let everybody else have all the fun. besides, my posts seem to last a lot longer if I don't talk about my car.
Posted By: fishy340
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 07:58 PM
I guess thats what makes america great.Here in the east 1/8 was taboo.I think on a 14x32 tire car that runs mid 6s in the 1/8 it would be boreing.I dont think on a 275 radial or 10.5 non w tire 180/190mph would not be to boreing. Piece
Posted By: justinp61
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 09:11 PM
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I think on a 14x32 tire car that runs mid 6s in the 1/8 it would be boreing.
I think it's fun in a pump gas na small block street car .
Posted By: B3422W5
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 09:27 PM
I am currently semi retired from racing.
If I couldn't race quarter mile the word "semi" could definately be removed from the equation
I like nothing about 1/8 mile racing, and it doesn't speed up events IMO either.
85-90 percent of car issues at the track I have seen over the years is coming out of the water box, at launch, or before 1/2 track anyway
Posted By: justinp61
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 09:52 PM
I didn't grow up racing the 1/4 mile, in fact I didn't make my first pass down a drag strip until I was in my 40s. The closest track to me that runs the 1/4 is Bowling Green and even they don't run it in their regular bracket program. I have ran the 1/4 several times and honestly once you pass the 1/8 it's boring until you have drive the stripe. In the 1/8 it all happens so fast there isn't much time to think about the stripe, even in a mid 6 second car. IMO guys that are GOOD 1/8 mile racers make VERY good 1/4 mile racers. The tree is the same but driving the stripe sure comes up in a hurry.
I don't understand all the hate for the 1/8, to me it's simple. If you don't like it sell your stuff and take up golf. But would you play 9 or 18?
I'm happy I have places to race, I read a lot of posts about tracks closing down.
Posted By: kissmyaspen
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 10:05 PM
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I didn't grow up racing the 1/4 mile, in fact I didn't make my first pass down a drag strip until I was in my 40s. The closest track to me that runs the 1/4 is Bowling Green and even they don't run it in their regular bracket program. I have ran the 1/4 several times and honestly once you pass the 1/8 it's boring until you have drive the stripe. In the 1/8 it all happens so fast there isn't much time to think about the stripe, even in a mid 6 second car. IMO guys that are GOOD 1/8 mile racers make VERY good 1/4 mile racers. The tree is the same but driving the stripe sure comes up in a hurry.
I don't understand all the hate for the 1/8, to me it's simple. If you don't like it sell your stuff and take up golf. But would you play 9 or 18?
I'm happy I have places to race, I read a lot of posts about tracks closing down.
100%
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 10:26 PM
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Hyde Park Drag Strip is where Bud Gentile's 63 chevy step side p/u ruled the place, stop, I am showing my age......
Must have been before he lost his mind. Didn't he pass on a few years ago?
Posted By: THE GLASS MAN
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 10:36 PM
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Hyde Park Drag Strip is where Bud Gentile's 63 chevy step side p/u ruled the place, stop, I am showing my age......
Must have been before he lost his mind. Didn't he pass on a few years ago?
I remember a reddish colored Cheevy pickup. Was that the one?
Posted By: Triple Threat
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 10:41 PM
Quickly reading through this thread, you can see a very clear split between the type of people who enjoy one vs the other or both.
One thing I noticed, those guys who I would consider more serious racers, guys who race a lot, like both 1/8th and 1/4. Those guys on here who race a couple times a year, or who are in it for the "go fast" mentality, are the only ones saying its 1/4 or nothing. Yes I understand there are exceptions to this...
You can probably guess which side I fall on.
Posted By: gdonovan
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/28/12 10:50 PM
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I have ran the 1/4 several times and honestly once you pass the 1/8 it's boring until you have drive the stripe.
I have had several races that were decided on the back half of the track.
Nothing like a high speed duel on the top end of the track to get the blood pumping ;-)
Put me in the 1/4 mile or nothing club, 1000 foot might be ok but there isn't any around here to give it a try.
Posted By: 383man
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/29/12 12:00 AM
I don't understand all the hate for the 1/8, to me it's simple. If you don't like it sell your stuff and take up golf. But would you play 9 or 18?
You said it as I feel the same way about the 1/4 mile..............if you dont like the 1/4 sell all your stuff and go watch Nascar or golf.
Ron
Posted By: B3422W5
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/29/12 01:11 AM
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Quickly reading through this thread, you can see a very clear split between the type of people who enjoy one vs the other or both.
One thing I noticed, those guys who I would consider more serious racers, guys who race a lot, like both 1/8th and 1/4. Those guys on here who race a couple times a year, or who are in it for the "go fast" mentality, are the only ones saying its 1/4 or nothing. Yes I understand there are exceptions to this...
You can probably guess which side I fall on.
I posted earlier, and don't/ didn't fall into the " loves 1/4 mile but races seldom camp"
The years I race, I race all the time
I think where you are from has more to do with what you prefer than how often you race.
In the South, the greatest majority of tracks are 1/8 mile, so that is all many in those areas have ever done.
Myself, living in Michigan, all the tracks around here(US131, Milan, Stanton, Osceola) have all always been 1/4 mile.
So I think a lot of it has to do with tracks you were weaned on.
Posted By: CHAPPER
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/29/12 01:46 AM
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We had a track in Heath , Ohio which is 15 minutes away from National Trail Raceway, which was a 1000 foot track and the shut down was a hill and you could coast to your pit area. It was called 'Hyde Park Drag Strip". If you like rowing 5&6 speeds we also have a 1 mile track here in Willmington, Ohio for your speed runs.
I don't remember the track being 1000'. I thought it was 1/4 mile. Maybe that's why I liked that place so well.
Hyde Park was 1000' until about 1965 and then they built a 1/4 mile track that went across the 1000' at an angle at that time. Track closed in about 1971. That was the first track that I raced on and that was 1967. Been racing Mopars ever since.
I raced there first in EARLY spring of '68. Had to be in March. There was snow in places in the pits. I've told this tale before, but I LOVE it! I had just bought a new Roadrunner in December of '67. This was my first 'sanctioned' race. I won F/SA & F/PSA the same day!! I have been hooked on Mopars and drag racing ever since.
So maybe my car was faster there if it was a 1/4 mile at that time. I raced there '68 &'69 with the RR. I don't remember ever having my '62 Savoy there..but,,lots of things I don't remember anymore.
Posted By: fourgearsavoy
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/29/12 02:14 AM
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Quickly reading through this thread, you can see a very clear split between the type of people who enjoy one vs the other or both.
One thing I noticed, those guys who I would consider more serious racers, guys who race a lot, like both 1/8th and 1/4. Those guys on here who race a couple times a year, or who are in it for the "go fast" mentality, are the only ones saying its 1/4 or nothing. Yes I understand there are exceptions to this...
You can probably guess which side I fall on.
You are correct here in your observation of the racers that replied to this thread.I am an ET chaser and I don't race for money or points and I run my car over the stripe full throttle EVERY pass.I race for the fun and enjoyment of attaining personal goals Going rounds is fun too and I have won before so I know the feeling is like nothing else on earth
Winning rounds and taking the stripe after 11 rounds with a stick car is rewarding against an all automatic Pro class
Gus
Posted By: 383man
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/29/12 02:54 AM
Honestly though it seems everything even when I was growing up and would read about all the muscle cars everything was judged by the 1/4 mile and most were used to 1/4 mile times or at least in my area. No one ever said their cars runs 7.40's as they said hey it runs 11.70's. And all the mags had 1/4 mile et times when they tested the muscle cars. And all the NHRA and AHRA national events are 1/4 mile up until the fuel cars changed. I guess I never knew so many even raced the 1/8 mile until I got a computer and found out what the rest of the world is doing.
I have nothing against 1/8 mile but I guess since I have always raced 1/4 mile I have come to love it. I did race brackets for about 4 years back in the late 70's and early 80's which around here was all 1/4 mile. Ron
Posted By: justinp61
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/29/12 03:12 AM
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I don't understand all the hate for the 1/8, to me it's simple. If you don't like it sell your stuff and take up golf. But would you play 9 or 18?
You said it as I feel the same way about the 1/4 mile..............if you dont like the 1/4 sell all your stuff and go watch Nascar or golf. Ron
Ron, I like the 1/4 fine and my car will run it. To me as a driver the 1/8 is more exciting.
Posted By: 383man
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/29/12 04:00 AM
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I don't understand all the hate for the 1/8, to me it's simple. If you don't like it sell your stuff and take up golf. But would you play 9 or 18?
You said it as I feel the same way about the 1/4 mile..............if you dont like the 1/4 sell all your stuff and go watch Nascar or golf. Ron
Ron, I like the 1/4 fine and my car will run it. To me as a driver the 1/8 is more exciting.
By all means if we had no 1/4 I would run the 1/8 as I love drag racing to much to give up and play golf. 
Ron
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/29/12 07:21 AM
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I didn't grow up racing the 1/4 mile, in fact I didn't make my first pass down a drag strip until I was in my 40s. The closest track to me that runs the 1/4 is Bowling Green and even they don't run it in their regular bracket program. I have ran the 1/4 several times and honestly once you pass the 1/8 it's boring until you have drive the stripe. In the 1/8 it all happens so fast there isn't much time to think about the stripe, even in a mid 6 second car. IMO guys that are GOOD 1/8 mile racers make VERY good 1/4 mile racers. The tree is the same but driving the stripe sure comes up in a hurry.
I don't understand all the hate for the 1/8, to me it's simple. If you don't like it sell your stuff and take up golf. But would you play 9 or 18?
I'm happy I have places to race, I read a lot of posts about tracks closing down.
100%
Golf!?!? No way!!,,I would race shopping carts across a wal-mart parking lot before I took up golf.
I have to agree that what you grew up around has a big impact on a persons prefference, my first time down a drag strip was at National Trails, and I have been hooked on the 1/4 mile ever since,I have raced 1/8 mile ever since I moved to Mt.Vernon, but every once in a while I would stray off to a 1/4 mile track just to get that feeling back.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/29/12 07:29 AM
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I didn't grow up racing the 1/4 mile, in fact I didn't make my first pass down a drag strip until I was in my 40s. The closest track to me that runs the 1/4 is Bowling Green and even they don't run it in their regular bracket program. I have ran the 1/4 several times and honestly once you pass the 1/8 it's boring until you have drive the stripe. In the 1/8 it all happens so fast there isn't much time to think about the stripe, even in a mid 6 second car. IMO guys that are GOOD 1/8 mile racers make VERY good 1/4 mile racers. The tree is the same but driving the stripe sure comes up in a hurry.
I don't understand all the hate for the 1/8, to me it's simple. If you don't like it sell your stuff and take up golf. But would you play 9 or 18?
I'm happy I have places to race, I read a lot of posts about tracks closing down.
100%
Golf!?!? No way!!,,I would race shopping carts across a wal-mart parking lot before I took up golf.
I have to agree that what you grew up around has a big impact on a persons prefference, my first time down a drag strip was at National Trails, and I have been hooked on the 1/4 mile ever since,I have raced 1/8 mile ever since I moved to Mt.Vernon, but every once in a while I would stray off to a 1/4 mile track just to get that feeling back.
My first pass was down Pacemakers in a '72 or '73 Cuda. 400/Hemi 4-speed. It was enough to get me hooked. But the reap fun started when I went down Trails 1/4 mile. I would have to say I have probably made the same amount of passes on each(not many) but with the 1/4, I know what times I am chasing. When I say my stock Challenger ran high 13's, people can say that is respectable. But if I tell them the car would turn high 8's in the 1/8, they don't know if that is good or not. Sometimes I don't, either!
Posted By: cgall
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/29/12 11:04 PM
Years ago, I used to run local S/P with an 11.50 footbrake car, and I did win a number of races. Since then, I have seen lobbying from the RED guys for 1/8th mile, crosstalk, across the line burnouts, onboard computers, and ETC. Every one of these changes gave them another advantage. Now you see few door cars in S/P, many tracks have taken to running dragster and door car seperate for a few rounds to compensate. I have no fear of running a 7.20 dragster in S/P with my 10.30 door car on a 1/4 mile. On 1/8th mile, it burns my rear end to look over at a dragster and see the driver with his head straight forward and running dead on to my .01 over. Yes, he probably treed me, too, but the 1/8th took away my ability to play a little on the top end. Only a few of these new breed of drivers play the top end at all, they dial in with a weather station, let go of the button, drive it all out, then look at the numbers on the slip.
Posted By: Bigbeep
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/31/12 06:33 AM
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Years ago, I used to run local S/P with an 11.50 footbrake car, and I did win a number of races. Since then, I have seen lobbying from the RED guys for 1/8th mile, crosstalk, across the line burnouts, onboard computers, and ETC. Every one of these changes gave them another advantage. Now you see few door cars in S/P, many tracks have taken to running dragster and door car seperate for a few rounds to compensate. I have no fear of running a 7.20 dragster in S/P with my 10.30 door car on a 1/4 mile. On 1/8th mile, it burns my rear end to look over at a dragster and see the driver with his head straight forward and running dead on to my .01 over. Yes, he probably treed me, too, but the 1/8th took away my ability to play a little on the top end. Only a few of these new breed of drivers play the top end at all, they dial in with a weather station, let go of the button, drive it all out, then look at the numbers on the slip.
Wow, thats just the opposite as what I have seen at Norwalk. There are alot of guys that play the stripe. Some will spray to get by you then back into you as they approach the stripe. I think it takes some of the advantages away from a RED. Of course you better have your act together either way!
My opinion, lets race. 660 or 1320, the car will run either. Its just a bracket car and everybody knows they are boring and anyone can do it! Beep
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/31/12 05:10 PM
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Years ago, I used to run local S/P with an 11.50 footbrake car, and I did win a number of races. Since then, I have seen lobbying from the RED guys for 1/8th mile, crosstalk, across the line burnouts, onboard computers, and ETC. Every one of these changes gave them another advantage. Now you see few door cars in S/P, many tracks have taken to running dragster and door car seperate for a few rounds to compensate. I have no fear of running a 7.20 dragster in S/P with my 10.30 door car on a 1/4 mile. On 1/8th mile, it burns my rear end to look over at a dragster and see the driver with his head straight forward and running dead on to my .01 over. Yes, he probably treed me, too, but the 1/8th took away my ability to play a little on the top end. Only a few of these new breed of drivers play the top end at all, they dial in with a weather station, let go of the button, drive it all out, then look at the numbers on the slip.
Wow, thats just the opposite as what I have seen at Norwalk. There are alot of guys that play the stripe. Some will spray to get by you then back into you as they approach the stripe. I think it takes some of the advantages away from a RED. Of course you better have your act together either way!
My opinion, lets race. 660 or 1320, the car will run either. Its just a bracket car and everybody knows they are boring and anyone can do it! Beep
Point well taken John, can't wait for opening day.
Posted By: Steve1118
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/31/12 05:15 PM
I don't know, maybe some of it's generational. I've always considered myself a serious racer (I've been doing this since 1969); and 1/8 mile doesn't appeal to me at all.
I've been to tracks where they have decided to run 1/8th on a quartermile track, and will generally load up and go home. I just don't like it.
It doesn't speed the program up, at all, as far as I see. To me it is just something to cater to the "we race for blood" scienced out bracket guys that do this for an entirely different reason than motivates me.
And, no, I wouldn't sell anything and buy golf clubs.
Posted By: justinp61
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 12/31/12 09:04 PM
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Now you see few door cars in S/P, many tracks have taken to running dragster and door car seperate for a few rounds to compensate.
I'd say it's about 60/40 door cars to engines on a stick around here in SP, but they have the same electronics as the diggers do. The diggers are hard to beat bracket racing because they are so consistent, no matter if it's 1/8 or 1/4.
My local tracks run a pro class for cars without dleay boxes but still can have trans brakes and air/electric shifters. I run foot brake or no e class.
All we have is 1/8 mile racing unless Bowling Green is running a special event, so we race the 1/8.
BTW I hate golf too .
Good luck this year guys no matter what you race and be safe .
Posted By: kissmyaspen
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/01/13 11:13 PM
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Years ago, I used to run local S/P with an 11.50 footbrake car, and I did win a number of races. Since then, I have seen lobbying from the RED guys for 1/8th mile, crosstalk, across the line burnouts, onboard computers, and ETC. Every one of these changes gave them another advantage. Now you see few door cars in S/P, many tracks have taken to running dragster and door car seperate for a few rounds to compensate. I have no fear of running a 7.20 dragster in S/P with my 10.30 door car on a 1/4 mile. On 1/8th mile, it burns my rear end to look over at a dragster and see the driver with his head straight forward and running dead on to my .01 over. Yes, he probably treed me, too, but the 1/8th took away my ability to play a little on the top end. Only a few of these new breed of drivers play the top end at all, they dial in with a weather station, let go of the button, drive it all out, then look at the numbers on the slip.
Wow, thats just the opposite as what I have seen at Norwalk. There are alot of guys that play the stripe. Some will spray to get by you then back into you as they approach the stripe. I think it takes some of the advantages away from a RED. Of course you better have your act together either way!
My opinion, lets race. 660 or 1320, the car will run either. Its just a bracket car and everybody knows they are boring and anyone can do it! Beep
I agree beep... Many people still play the strip.. I love setting at the finish line and watching... Much better at big money races.. Guys praying and dumping... I'll race at any distance they want.. I have talk to many loca racers and they all like the idea of trails running 1/8 mile.
Posted By: dartman366
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/02/13 01:37 AM
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Years ago, I used to run local S/P with an 11.50 footbrake car, and I did win a number of races. Since then, I have seen lobbying from the RED guys for 1/8th mile, crosstalk, across the line burnouts, onboard computers, and ETC. Every one of these changes gave them another advantage. Now you see few door cars in S/P, many tracks have taken to running dragster and door car seperate for a few rounds to compensate. I have no fear of running a 7.20 dragster in S/P with my 10.30 door car on a 1/4 mile. On 1/8th mile, it burns my rear end to look over at a dragster and see the driver with his head straight forward and running dead on to my .01 over. Yes, he probably treed me, too, but the 1/8th took away my ability to play a little on the top end. Only a few of these new breed of drivers play the top end at all, they dial in with a weather station, let go of the button, drive it all out, then look at the numbers on the slip.
Wow, thats just the opposite as what I have seen at Norwalk. There are alot of guys that play the stripe. Some will spray to get by you then back into you as they approach the stripe. I think it takes some of the advantages away from a RED. Of course you better have your act together either way!
My opinion, lets race. 660 or 1320, the car will run either. Its just a bracket car and everybody knows they are boring and anyone can do it! Beep
I agree beep... Many people still play the strip.. I love setting at the finish line and watching... Much better at big money races.. Guys praying and dumping... I'll race at any distance they want.. I have talk to many loca racers and they all like the idea of trails running 1/8 mile.
I have only heard of S/pro changing what about the pro class is that class changing also?
Posted By: kissmyaspen
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/02/13 02:51 PM
Just super pro, for now.
Posted By: Charrlie_S
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/14/13 02:35 AM
Any one ever think, the tracks are switching to 1/8 mile, for insurance reasons? Slow the cars down, and reduce risk. Personally, I was raised in the east with 1/4 mile racing. Didn't think I would like 1/8 mile. Moved to Florida, and did 1/8 mile, and 1/4 mile. Guess what? I have just as much fun, and win about the same number of rounds, either way. Just be glad you have a track to race at, with so many closing.
PS: Try 500 ft sometime. Straightaway of a circle track.
Posted By: top8x7b
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/14/13 03:03 AM
Insurance is the exact reason tracks are switching to 1/8 mile in s/p ,the top end speeds.
Posted By: CHAPPER
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/14/13 03:27 AM
That may be true about the insurance costs. BUT, I think the reason is not the MPH difference between S/P and Pro. It is that they know the S/P cars have all those "buttons, switchs, automatically activated mechanisms, and such", and they are afraid the driver will not be paying full attention to his driving and run off the track or something, fall asleep, talk on the cell phone, text, etc. The drivers , by their own addmission, don't like to use the foot brake. The insurance company obviously sees that class as a higher risk for claims.
Posted By: max_maniac
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/14/13 05:16 AM
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That may be true about the insurance costs. BUT, I think the reason is not the MPH difference between S/P and Pro. It is that they know the S/P cars have all those "buttons, switchs, automatically activated mechanisms, and such", and they are afraid the driver will not be paying full attention to his driving and run off the track or something, fall asleep, talk on the cell phone, text, etc. The drivers , by their own addmission, don't like to use the foot brake. The insurance company obviously sees that class as a higher risk for claims.
Oh no you didn't
Russ
Posted By: Bigbeep
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/14/13 05:33 AM
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That may be true about the insurance costs. BUT, I think the reason is not the MPH difference between S/P and Pro. It is that they know the S/P cars have all those "buttons, switchs, automatically activated mechanisms, and such", and they are afraid the driver will not be paying full attention to his driving and run off the track or something, fall asleep, talk on the cell phone, text, etc. The drivers , by their own addmission, don't like to use the foot brake. The insurance company obviously sees that class as a higher risk for claims.
LMAO! And to think, I was wanting to put a starting line enhancer and an expresso machine on my junk. hehehe Beep
Posted By: Evil Spirit
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/14/13 11:59 AM
Here's one scenario why 10.0 1/4 mile cars now love 1/8 mile.
Car won't hook, since we all know it's impossible for a car to hook at 10.0 with a 3 speed auto and 4.56 gears (? ? ?).
Switch to 'Glide - lazy, won't 60'.
Switch to 4.88's - lazy, won't 60'.
Switch to 5.13's - lazy, won't 60'.
Switch to 5.38's - finally 60's, now out of motor at 800'.
Switch to 1/8 mile tracks.
Posted By: THE GLASS MAN
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/14/13 01:15 PM
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Insurance is the exact reason tracks are switching to 1/8 mile in s/p ,the top end speeds.
Not in the case of NTR. The S/P racers told NTR they wanted 1/8th mile, and NTR listened. Lot of those Chevys don't hold together on the top end.
Posted By: cudasteve68
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/15/13 06:13 PM
Maybe I should take John's advice & install some creature confort items in my car to deal with that long boring drive thru high gear while racing 1/4 mile. I think a stripper pole in the back of my old fastback would work just fine.
Posted By: mickm
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/15/13 08:28 PM
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I quit going to 42 for two reasons,The "bump" and the 1/8 mile deal. So many tracks going to 1/8 mile now and it's just no fun for a stick car with a 5-speed the reason I like racing is to row the gears
I hate 1/8 mile tracks
Gus
i've only been on a track a few times, so i'm not really one to talk, but i agree.
the thought of an 1/8 mile is like a nerf vibrator; may sound good but as soon as you get started, you're done!
having the time to really go through all 4 (5) gears is what it's all about for me!
Posted By: Eric
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/15/13 09:16 PM
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Years ago, I used to run local S/P with an 11.50 footbrake car, and I did win a number of races. Since then, I have seen lobbying from the RED guys for 1/8th mile, crosstalk, across the line burnouts, onboard computers, and ETC. Every one of these changes gave them another advantage. Now you see few door cars in S/P, many tracks have taken to running dragster and door car seperate for a few rounds to compensate. I have no fear of running a 7.20 dragster in S/P with my 10.30 door car on a 1/4 mile. On 1/8th mile, it burns my rear end to look over at a dragster and see the driver with his head straight forward and running dead on to my .01 over. Yes, he probably treed me, too, but the 1/8th took away my ability to play a little on the top end. Only a few of these new breed of drivers play the top end at all, they dial in with a weather station, let go of the button, drive it all out, then look at the numbers on the slip.
Wow, thats just the opposite as what I have seen at Norwalk. There are alot of guys that play the stripe. Some will spray to get by you then back into you as they approach the stripe. I think it takes some of the advantages away from a RED. Of course you better have your act together either way!
My opinion, lets race. 660 or 1320, the car will run either. Its just a bracket car and everybody knows they are boring and anyone can do it! Beep
I agree beep... Many people still play the strip.. I love setting at the finish line and watching... Much better at big money races.. Guys praying and dumping... I'll race at any distance they want.. I have talk to many loca racers and they all like the idea of trails running 1/8 mile.
You like watching the stripe...check out the .90 cars..especially on a 1/8 mile track....OH SNAP...did I just say that??!!??
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: another track switches to 1/8 mile - 01/15/13 10:06 PM
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I like them both...but if I have my choice I like 1/8th mile better.