guys running a toilet

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for guys running 1 how do you like this set up??? if you ran a carb before and changed over how much of a diff. did you see??? what it alot of cost going from carb to this set up??? which set up works better???terminator,toilet,carb.. or does it dep. on your type of racing???

1. Yes I like it. Very consistent. 2. I was running 112 octane gas before going to alcohol and the toilet. Was running a 1050 carb and went to the 4.1" toilet. Car picked up almost 2 tenths in the heat. I will admit my carb was jetted a little fat in the heat so that will contribute a little on that et gain. I strongly suggest an egt for at least tuning the new set up even if you don't run one long term. 3. I personally do not run a throttle stop, but have talked with people who run one with a toilet and they all have said that it just will not duplicate pass for pass. I think that a terminator would be better suited for that. Call James Monroe at killer rons (812)327-1190 for any info you should need. Super helpful and easy to talk to. 4. As for cost, I pieced my set up together. I had less than a $1000 in the injection set up, pump, pills, cable, filters, and hoses. My car still retains the factory fenderwells up front which limits any room for a front mounted cell. I fabbed up a aluminum tank with a holley float bowl to control fuel level that fits under the passenger fender. This is fed by my rear mounted fuel cell.
All in all, I am very happy with the set up. I record my water temp and egts every pass, and if I do my job right getting the water temp the same before staging, it will usually duplicate egt temps. Hope this helps. Beep

I have been running a Ron's Flying Toilet system since 2009.
That first year I won the track points championship, so I love it. I also ran exactly on my dial-in with a zero, 6 times that year (9.210). I changed heads and cam at the same time, so I don't have any ET comparison. But I think it is about 0.2 quicker in the heat of summer, and less in cooler weather.

The Flying Toilet kit from Rons is $1600 with the vane pump. The gear pump is an upgrade. The kit comes with everything except the fuel cell and fuel lines to/from the pump. They say you should run a front mounted fuel cell, or front surge tank. There is a good list of components on the killerrons.com web site (in the article for buying a used system). I recommend the "primer plus" gasoline starting/idling system. It makes it easier to start and uses less alcohol since you can high idle on gas to the staging lanes and on the return road and pits. It also helps put heat in the motor (warm-ups).

From an ET/mph standpoint, I think the Terminator and Flying Toilet run the same. Perhaps the Terminator is more suited to throttle stop racing, I never did that. The Toilet has slotted mounting holes to fit both a 4150 manifold or a 4500 intake, and it has a 4150 top opening (air filter, etc). The Terminator fits 4500 intake manifolds and has a 4500 top opening.

The first time I did a launch, I found out the throttle response was awesome!

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The first time I did a launch, I found out the throttle response was awesome!

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First pass with injection, went on the bumper. The only pass the wife didn't film that day! Bought wheeliebars for next outing.