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Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground.. UPDATE

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground.. UPDATE - 08/02/12 06:24 PM

Has anyone had a roller cam reground by Bullet...
looking for a idea on price (or any company for that matter)
thanks

Posted By: ZIPPY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/02/12 06:29 PM

LSM in Waterford does them, might be worth a shot

Posted By: mopar dave

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/02/12 06:48 PM

i think i payed $225 3 years ago mike. solid roller

Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/02/12 06:50 PM

http://bulletcams.com/pl.html

$125

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/02/12 06:56 PM

Well I was just talking with ou812 (Brian) which I
have his lifters in my engine.. I was looking at the
lifters at full lift and about 25% of the oil supply
hole was exposed but by rights its shut off so it really
shouldnt matter.... he told me to prime it and see
how much is coming out at full lift so I'll do that
tomorrow... if its loosing alot of oil I'll look at
having the cam base moved lower

Posted By: mopar dave

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/02/12 07:12 PM

i have to look at my reciept maybe it was 125. they grind the base circle for more lift so that should help your problem if more lift is what your looking for.

Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/02/12 08:39 PM

I had one of there cams reground after I discovered the racer I bought from had a lifter failure tha he forgot to tell me about

I think it was around $100.00 to $145.00 with the shipping it back to me

Comp Cams regrinds them frr around $130.00, I think

Call both of them and find out

Posted By: rickraw

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/02/12 09:42 PM

same as triple threat. took less than a week.

Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/02/12 09:59 PM

Quote:

Well I was just talking with ou812 (Brian) which I
have his lifters in my engine.. I was looking at the
lifters at full lift and about 25% of the oil supply
hole was exposed but by rights its shut off so it really
shouldnt matter.... he told me to prime it and see
how much is coming out at full lift so I'll do that
tomorrow... if its loosing alot of oil I'll look at
having the cam base moved lower

You`ll know instantly if it`s bleeding by or not as I went throught this w/my Isky Red zones which blead out of the oil bands in my stock un-bushed 400 block.........

Posted By: SCATPACK 1

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/03/12 12:15 AM

I called Comp before deciding to go with Bullet. The kid I spoke with at Comp told me it could not be re ground as it was too big to start with. Told me to just buy a new cam. This after making numerous calls to Comp before I ever got to talk to anyone.
No I will not waste another call to Comp Cams again.
Mike I sent you a PM

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/03/12 01:24 AM

thanks... I'll know more tomorrow whether it needs
any grinding

Posted By: dynamite

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/03/12 01:36 AM

Mike ..yes Tim at Bullet reground my hyd roller for my RB ...I think it cost around $ 175.00..has worked very well for me...won't let comp touch my stuff

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Posted By: LSP

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/03/12 01:52 AM

Comp's like any other big company, you need to know who to talk to, Chris Padget and Tim Cole are good choices.

Posted By: Chris'sBarracuda

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/03/12 02:39 AM

Quote:

http://bulletcams.com/pl.html

$125

John (the owner) or Tim will help you..

They just did a re-grind for me..

But.. It's.... $175.00.. And done nicely..

Chris..

Posted By: patrick

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/03/12 02:10 PM

Quote:

Has anyone had a roller cam reground by Bullet...
looking for a idea on price (or any company for that matter)
thanks

yup, factory 318 roller cam reground. was $120-150 IIRC and about $30 round trip shipping...that was about 3 years ago, turnaround was about 5 days for me, but I had them ship 2 day priority back so I could get it in the motor quicker.....

Posted By: emarine01

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/03/12 03:02 PM

Cam Motion was 200 plus 1/2 the shipping a few years ago, I think the price varies on how much change there is to the cam

Posted By: mopar dave

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/03/12 06:37 PM

yeah, i paid $125 three years ago.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/03/12 07:18 PM

Quote:

yeah, i paid $125 three years ago.

I talked to Bullet a short time ago and its still
$125 plus I might have them grind a bit different
profile based on his suggestions

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground... UPDATE - 08/04/12 01:49 AM

Well I came up with a solution (I should say Sean
and myself did, Sean is the builder over where I will
be getting it dynoed)..I had him stop by my place
to see what was going on... the lifter bushings are
a little loose ... I'll have him push out the old bushings
and install new ones but leave them .300 tall...
this will correct the loose bores and the hole being
exposed a bit... that will still clear the tie bar
on the lifter..... right now there is way to much
oil coming out of the lifter bores... so doing it
this way I wont have to touch the cam...... so I'll
tear it back apart tomorrow and take it to him Monday...
the pistons are gonna be wore out just by taking
them in and out..... this is getting OLD

Posted By: Maximus_Wedges

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground... UPDATE - 08/08/12 04:07 AM

Mike, Bullet has re ground several cams for us. Tim knows his stuff and can "tweek" a grind to best for your combo. You won't be disapointed.
Kevin

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground... UPDATE - 08/08/12 04:52 AM

Quote:

Mike, Bullet has re ground several cams for us. Tim knows his stuff and can "tweek" a grind to best for your combo. You won't be disapointed.
Kevin

Not getting it ground... having new lifter bushings
put in tomorrow but they will be taller

Posted By: poppaj

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/08/12 05:03 AM

Quote:

thanks... I'll know more tomorrow whether it needs
any grinding

Mike,
Mark C. at Bullett is the guy to talk to. I have had several reground on a small baseline for rod clearance. They have always charged me $100 and got them back quickly. poppaj

Posted By: gregsdart

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground... UPDATE - 08/11/12 12:49 PM

"the pistons are gonna be wore out just by taking
them in and out..... this is getting OLD"
Ya but you are doing it the right way, and results will show it.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground... UPDATE - 08/11/12 01:19 PM

Quote:

"the pistons are gonna be wore out just by taking
them in and out..... this is getting OLD"
Ya but you are doing it the right way, and results will show it.

I have most of it together now... just gotta put the
pan on then prime it to see what the pressure is...
should be on the dyno Tuesday
EDIT
I'm gonna bring my 1050 dom also for the dyno... I
want to see the difference over the 850 thats on
it

Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/11/12 02:40 PM

Quote:

I was looking at the lifters at full lift and about 25% of the oil supply hole was exposed

What block is this and what is the lobe lift?

On factory big blocks, I thought the IMM roller lifters were fine to at least 0.460" lobe lift.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/11/12 03:30 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I was looking at the lifters at full lift and about 25% of the oil supply hole was exposed

What block is this and what is the lobe lift?

On factory big blocks, I thought the IMM roller lifters were fine to at least 0.460" lobe lift.

Production 340 block with lifter bushings... lobe
lift is .439... with the taller bushings its no
problem now but to be honest I dont think that the
hole being exposed was really the issue... just the
sloppy bushings.. this block didnt have oil holes
in the bushings before so it was never a problem
with oil but when I drilled them the sloppy bore to
lifter showed excessive oil losses... in a little
while I'll know if thats cured

Posted By: 70HemiGTX

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/11/12 10:03 PM

Midway Peformance in Mt. Carmel, PA took my old cam with a wiped lobe and made me an identical match with the exception of the wiped lobe. Cost was about the price of a new cam. They can make you what ever you want. Doug is the machinest there, he is a few years younger than I am. We grew up in the same town. He is a hard core mopar nut, but will make anything for anything. www.midwayperformance.com is their web site.

Posted By: cagebob1

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/11/12 10:38 PM

Is that the same business that used to be known as Midway Performance Clinic? I did business with them many years ago at their Milton store! If it's the same, they must have really grown!

Posted By: 70HemiGTX

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/11/12 11:09 PM

I'm not sure if they had a stroe in Milton or not. I think there are only 3 guys in the shop. The owner Dan, his son (Danny I think), and Doug. They bought some machines though that allows them to do some nice work.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/11/12 11:59 PM

With the taller bushings I dont need to grind the cam

Today was good and bad... I got my oil pressure up...
was at 78# so I'm sure the by pass was working... the
bad... I was only getting oil to 1 rocker.. this is
push rod oiling so it gets the oil through the bushing
then the clearance of the bushing to the lifter is
what actually oils... the bushing hole and the lifter
holes are 90* to each other ... so I pulled it back
apart and checked the one that was working.. that
was also the largest bore diameter.. so I had all
the others too close so oil wouldnt pass... I reamed
out all of them another .0015... cleaned the block
AGAIN...I got the crank back in, cam degreed, and
6 of the pistons ... will get the other 2 in tomorrow
and get the heads on and check the rockers again...
this is a PITA

Posted By: Labratt

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/12/12 01:20 AM

NO quit in this guy!

Mike,got my fingers crossed for the "fix"!

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/12/12 01:53 AM

Quote:

NO quit in this guy! Mike,got my fingers crossed for the "fix"!

I feel it will work... its a balance between having
enough and not to much to let needed oil slip past
so thats why I kept the clearance low last time..
I should have done what Sean said but I stayed on
the low side.... he has more experience than me...
at least the one that was over size gave me a clue
what to to..... I'm still learning

Posted By: 70HemiGTX

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/12/12 04:20 AM

The other week I said to one of my friends who is also into car (owns a trans. shop also), "Why do we keep doing this stuff???" He just looked at me and

. I think it is the fact of conquering the beast in the car.....

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/12/12 04:48 AM

Quote:

The other week I said to one of my friends who is also into car (owns a trans. shop also), "Why do we keep doing this stuff???" He just looked at me and . I think it is the fact of conquering the beast in the car.....

Yeah... sometimes I wonder.... I could be sitting back
and sipping on a brew or watching the grass grow....
NAAA... I'm not into watching the grass grow... I
guess I just like doing this stuff... been doing it
all my life and building weird/oddball stuff... and
I do like a challenge

Posted By: 70HemiGTX

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/12/12 12:48 PM

Quote:

Quote:

The other week I said to one of my friends who is also into car (owns a trans. shop also), "Why do we keep doing this stuff???" He just looked at me and . I think it is the fact of conquering the beast in the car.....

Yeah... sometimes I wonder.... I could be sitting back
and sipping on a brew or watching the grass grow....
NAAA... I'm not into watching the grass grow... I
guess I just like doing this stuff... been doing it
all my life and building weird/oddball stuff... and
I do like a challenge

It's like when I finish a project and it is ready to run, it just seems to have an anti-climactic moment. I just need to find another project to work on. With the exception of the yard.....

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/12/12 01:29 PM

It's like when I finish a project and it is ready to run, it just seems to have an anti-climactic moment. I just need to find another project to work on. With the exception of the yard.....

My problem is tooo many projects... my Rampage, a
chassis I just finished up(hopefully the customer
comes for it today)... I have a roll bar job coming
next week, my 38 Ply still needs a interior, got to
get my Harley running again and I have a duck hunting
project I'd like to build... plus I need to paint
a few rooms in the house.. then all the normal stuff
like cutting the grass.... and retirement is suppose
to be relaxing....... LOL

Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/12/12 05:45 PM

Mike,

I can tell you're a guy that likes to be busy and tinkering on things though. You'll always find something to build one way or another. Where most guys buy the part, you will build it.

You're reaching the light and the end of the tunnel!

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/12/12 06:03 PM

Well all the rockers are oiling now... and holding
good pressure... at about 600 rpm(crank) its 75#
just need to put the pan back on and the intake and
adjust the rockers... oh yeah put the headers on and
its set to go to the dyno tomorrow for set up...
hopefully be on the dyno Tuesday... need to gather up
some parts and stuff to take to the dyno... jet box
and the 1050 with adapter... few sets of plugs...
I'll take my timing light also just to verify we
both read the same...I think thats about it

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/12/12 06:08 PM

Quote:

Mike,

I can tell you're a guy that likes to be busy and tinkering on things though. You'll always find something to build one way or another. Where most guys buy the part, you will build it.

You're reaching the light and the end of the tunnel!

Yeah I love tinkering and building stuff... LOL...
I'm just a cheap bast*&d... naa... I like making stuff

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Anyone Had A Cam Re-Ground - 08/12/12 08:14 PM

Little change in plans... I think I'm gonna drop
the engine off on Tuesday... suppose to rain here
tomorrow so I dont want to take it on my small open
trailer and my small enclosed doesnt have any hold
downs so tomorrow I'll get some hold downs mounted
in the enclosed... gotta see when I can get on the
dyno ... the other day when I was there he had 2 engines
going on and they were pretty busy... all I need to
do is mount the water pump and motor plate but right
now the paint is drying so I think its time to kick
back and watch some racing and suck down a few brews