New Outlaw racecar arrived!

Posted By: Georg

New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/18/12 10:03 PM

Hey guys

Wanted to inform you that one of my dreams came true! Plymouth Valiant OUTLAW class roller is ready to make friedship with my R5/P7 engine

We`l see what happens...hopefully this really light car is going to fly with this 850hp high RPM engine
Ofcorse 850hp is nothing special but we have to start somewhere right

on trailer
dashboard
some important knobs and handles

rear axle
from backside
side
front
rollgage
rollgage cert
Same car past year : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhu41AlNt0k
I am very very glad!

Posted By: dezduster

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/18/12 10:10 PM

Very nice, good luck and ENJOY the ride.

Posted By: mafo

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/18/12 10:22 PM

In a light car like that, it will be plenty fast

Posted By: Kenny705K

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/18/12 10:40 PM

Nice car man! Definitely different, very nice choice. It looks very similar to mine, except you are missing 2 doors haha. The video you linked says it's a 64, but isn't it a 65? Ours is a 65 but has a 64 grille like yours, I think it looks better that way. The body line on the front fender is usually spread apart a lot more on the 64's.

How much does the car weigh? Ours is 2,500 with me in it. If you are close to the same weight, you should run in the mid 8's

Posted By: mopartony

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/18/12 11:05 PM

Very cool car!!! Love the scoop plug!!!

Posted By: 340B5

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/18/12 11:06 PM

Really Nice

Posted By: rickraw

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/18/12 11:27 PM

really nice. that thing is crazy.

Posted By: Hitman340

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/18/12 11:57 PM

Very sweet ride.You have to be proud of what you created.I look forward to seeing what it runs.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 12:21 AM

Nice ride... I dont know if you have to follow NHRA
rules .. but if so that padding in the cage wont fly...
not NHRA certified

Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 12:45 AM

Quote:

Nice car man! Definitely different, very nice choice. It looks very similar to mine, except you are missing 2 doors haha. The video you linked says it's a 64, but isn't it a 65? Ours is a 65 but has a 64 grille like yours, I think it looks better that way. The body line on the front fender is usually spread apart a lot more on the 64's.

How much does the car weigh? Ours is 2,500 with me in it. If you are close to the same, 8.50s should be in the mid 8's.

Love the fender-skirts..!!

Posted By: Georg

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 11:06 AM

Quote:

Nice car man! Definitely different, very nice choice. It looks very similar to mine, except you are missing 2 doors haha. The video you linked says it's a 64, but isn't it a 65? Ours is a 65 but has a 64 grille like yours, I think it looks better that way. The body line on the front fender is usually spread apart a lot more on the 64's.

How much does the car weigh? Ours is 2,500 with me in it. If you are close to the same, 8.50s should be in the mid 8's.

This car weighted almost same or even a bit less with iron headed bigblock motor and with almost 60lbs heavier driver. So with my R5/P7 motor and with me inside it should weight about 270-290lbs less...I quess weight comes about 2300lbs

Posted By: fishy340

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 11:31 AM

nice man,damn looks like it 60ft's hard! like to see a full pass and best of luck.

Posted By: jyrki

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 11:45 AM

The car is a '64, the flip is a '65. Yes, the car did 60 ft well, here with a 499 B1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhu41AlNt0k

Posted By: bonefish

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 02:04 PM

LOVE IT

but isnt it going to steer a little funny with those tiny front wheels?

Posted By: tboomer

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 02:12 PM

Nice!!

Posted By: mopar396

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 05:22 PM

Nice

It was great to meet you Georg in motopark!!

Posted By: mopartony

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 06:19 PM

Quote:

This car weighted almost same or even a bit less with iron headed bigblock motor and with almost 60lbs heavier driver. So with my R5/P7 motor and with me inside it should weight about 270-290lbs less...I quess weight comes about 2300lbs

That Iron headed BB is about 600 lbs, that R5 is heavier than you think. The sticker on mine says 499.5lbs I have to assume that is fully dressed and including the NASCAR carb which is really light, Titanium I think.

I would think a 100lbs lighter.

But I could be wrong. Just sayin'

Posted By: Georg

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 08:07 PM

mopartony- I cant belive that aluminium headed small block would be so heavy and weight only 100lbs less than 500cid iron headed bigblock with two carbs...But I need to weight my motor to be sure

Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 08:12 PM

That's sweet.....

Posted By: 65signet

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/19/12 10:17 PM

I like it very cool

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Posted By: mopartony

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/20/12 01:29 AM

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mopartony- I cant belive that aluminium headed small block would be so heavy and weight only 100lbs less than 500cid iron headed bigblock with two carbs...But I need to weight my motor to be sure

You and I are in the same boat. I was hoping it would be lighter. But it isn't. I might be able to get a pic of the tag, but it is in MI and I am in AZ and my stepdad just was at my house this morning before I saw this post. Or I would have had him get a pic of the tag.

Let me look through the ones i have and see if one is clear enough and I will post it.

Posted By: Red440

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/20/12 04:41 AM

awesome car, glad you have your dream car

Posted By: mopartony

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/20/12 03:10 PM

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mopartony- I cant belive that aluminium headed small block would be so heavy and weight only 100lbs less than 500cid iron headed bigblock with two carbs...But I need to weight my motor to be sure

I found a pic of my motor plate with the tag on it. I have another one coming in the next day or so that should be clearer. EDIT: the pic here is the one the guy I got my motor from. but still 500 pounds.

The one on my motor says 501.

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Posted By: mopartony

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/20/12 05:13 PM

This is the one off my motor, taken this morning. 499 pounds.

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Posted By: Georg

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/21/12 07:51 AM

Uoah...500 pounds is not what I expected to be honest. What weighting there so much? Heads are aluminium only block is iron and crank are quite tiny also...

Posted By: LA360

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/21/12 11:18 AM

The heads are pretty big, as is the manifold and water manifold. The block is deep skirted with 6 bolt caps. When you think about it, you can see where the weight is. I was shocked liked anyone else though!

Posted By: mopartony

Re: New Outlaw racecar arrived! - 06/21/12 02:36 PM

I was shocked too that was when I saw the prints and CAD data for the R07 block and heads. Having worked for GM Racing you get to see things like that. But the block alone is like 225-250 or so. Almost mega block wt. That is where the wt is at.

One thing I worked on when I was at GM was wt reduction of the heads. Trying to find a few ounces here and few there. Without compromising the heads. The blocks the teams lightened if they wanted. But that much wt that low, is better then wt higher up. I think I saw mentioned the cars are titanium so add an extra 4 pounds to the numbers you saw.

Yes the heads are almost as big as my Indy heads for my BB. Crazy stuff.

The water cross over is only like 2-3 lbs, not much but it adds up.

If I can be of any more help let me know.