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Posted By: slippery440

Slow Mopars - 01/08/12 10:04 PM

With all the fastes this or that post and who has the fastes this or that. I want to see stock blocks / stock stroke crankshaft / no power adders at all. This means carburator only.(440-413-426 wedge-400-383-360-340-318- 273) Also it has to be running and ready to race or drive.This post is for the guys that have a regular job and can not afford a 605 cube motor that runs in the 8s and have a crew of guys hanging off it. Its for the weekend warrior or the weekend driver.

My JUNK
66 440 block bored over .30
KB Hyper pistons
Stock rods and steel crank
Comp roller cam .625 lift both sides
Harland Sharp rockers
As many call them-- junk Source heads ported
M1 manifold
1050 E85 Carb
8 3/4 REAR WITH 4.88 gears and a 28.5 x 11 Hoosiers slicks
Cal/Track system mono spring
4800 Stall Converter Trans brake leaving at 3800 rpm
BRACKET RACE CAR
CAR WEIGHS 3250
I have pounded this combo for 6 years.
Best ever ET 10.62 AT 128.1 MPH 1/4 and a 6.63 at 102.5 1/8th Differant tracks.This year!
I may have about 10 grand into the whole thing.
A buddie of mine has about the same combo and he is a touch faster in the 1/4 mile. We were talking last night and we were kidding around how much we don't have in these cars and how we are real close to the same ETs and Mph of guys that have 440 or 400s that are stroked out to 500 plus cubes.I gess I am a stone age mopar guy. Only because I can not afford to have a credit card race car.
Posted By: lewtot184

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/08/12 11:18 PM

i never could get a good time on my heap. the sand keeps getting stuck in the hourglass.
Posted By: SLOW67

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/08/12 11:47 PM

Don't have an ET on my sled yet but It's built as cheap as possible and runs very strong on the street. I hope to get some track time this spring...

67 Valiant, no heater/wipers, manual steering, aftermarket wiring
full interior
3100 with me in it and I'm 220

stock 67 318
GT45 turbo/air to air intercooler
homebuilt holley 650dp
old torker single plane
2800 converter and stock 904
3.55 gear and minispool
26-28" tires depending on what wheels I have on it

I built EVERYTHING myself in my gravel driveway with simple tools. I don't have a tubing bender or tig welder, nothing fancy. All the exhaust side was built with off the shelf bends cut with a sawzall...I don't even have a radial arm saw for precise cuts lol. I feel like when tuned, it should run 7.50-7.60's in the 1/8th on 12lbs boost and pump gas. With more boost and race gas it might manage low 7's. I have about $5000 in everything including the price of the car and building the rearend. I love the low buck cars that get it done. I don't have a 75k a year salary to spend I've got 30k, a morgage, and bills lol so everything has to be cheap and make the most power per dollar spent
Posted By: 87MO DAK

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/09/12 12:35 AM

I'm in the same boat..LOL, I make good money ,but every time I save
up some loot -something in my house break's or someone is worse off
than me ...so there it goes - race part's or food for kid's ? -
(not mine)I have 2 with 1 on the way,that have more than needed.
I had a whole turbo set up to mess around with ,and sold it cos
I figured I would never get if figured out with out spending a
ton of money,so It's just an
N/A 360,.030 over
10.5 KB 190
Isky 304 hyd stick/with solid lifter's(tight lash)
Crane roller's
Ported 587
M1 single,Demon 750/pro form main body
904 rev man valve body,3500 stall that's tired
8-3/4 ,4.10,28-13.50 tire
I'm kinda of at a loss as to what I'm going to do with the rear suspension...So I will just ask a bunch of dumb ? here and figure
it out.
Have a good winter stay warm.

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Posted By: WHITEDART

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/09/12 12:46 AM

Quote:

With all the fastes this or that post and who has the fastes this or that. I want to see stock blocks / stock stroke crankshaft / no power adders at all. This means carburator only.(440-413-426 wedge-400-383-360-340-318- 273) Also it has to be running and ready to race or drive.This post is for the guys that have a regular job and can not afford a 605 cube motor that runs in the 8s and have a crew of guys hanging off it. Its for the weekend warrior or the weekend driver.

My JUNK
66 440 block bored over .30
KB Hyper pistons
Stock rods and steel crank
Comp roller cam .625 lift both sides
Harland Sharp rockers
As many call them-- junk Source heads ported
M1 manifold
1050 E85 Carb
8 3/4 REAR WITH 4.88 gears and a 28.5 x 11 Hoosiers slicks
Cal/Track system mono spring
4800 Stall Converter Trans brake leaving at 3800 rpm
BRACKET RACE CAR
CAR WEIGHS 3250
I have pounded this combo for 6 years.
Best ever ET 10.62 AT 128.1 MPH 1/4 and a 6.63 at 102.5 1/8th Differant tracks.This year!
I may have about 10 grand into the whole thing.
A buddie of mine has about the same combo and he is a touch faster in the 1/4 mile. We were talking last night and we were kidding around how much we don't have in these cars and how we are real close to the same ETs and Mph of guys that have 440 or 400s that are stroked out to 500 plus cubes.I gess I am a stone age mopar guy. Only because I can not afford to have a credit card race car.

wow you win the junk and stuff key broad prize with that motor i dont think abody else wants one
Posted By: slippery440

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/09/12 03:30 PM

Quote:

Quote:

With all the fastes this or that post and who has the fastes this or that. I want to see stock blocks / stock stroke crankshaft / no power adders at all. This means carburator only.(440-413-426 wedge-400-383-360-340-318- 273) Also it has to be running and ready to race or drive.This post is for the guys that have a regular job and can not afford a 605 cube motor that runs in the 8s and have a crew of guys hanging off it. Its for the weekend warrior or the weekend driver.

My JUNK
66 440 block bored over .30
KB Hyper pistons
Stock rods and steel crank
Comp roller cam .625 lift both sides
Harland Sharp rockers
As many call them-- junk Source heads ported
M1 manifold
1050 E85 Carb
8 3/4 REAR WITH 4.88 gears and a 28.5 x 11 Hoosiers slicks
Cal/Track system mono spring
4800 Stall Converter Trans brake leaving at 3800 rpm
BRACKET RACE CAR
CAR WEIGHS 3250
I have pounded this combo for 6 years.
Best ever ET 10.62 AT 128.1 MPH 1/4 and a 6.63 at 102.5 1/8th Differant tracks.This year!
I may have about 10 grand into the whole thing.
A buddie of mine has about the same combo and he is a touch faster in the 1/4 mile. We were talking last night and we were kidding around how much we don't have in these cars and how we are real close to the same ETs and Mph of guys that have 440 or 400s that are stroked out to 500 plus cubes.I gess I am a stone age mopar guy. Only because I can not afford to have a credit card race car.

wow you win the junk and stuff key broad prize with that motor i dont think abody else wants one



I am proud of my junk. Paid for with real cash and does not blow up or burn down and will run the same number time after time. I have actualy won races with my junk and actualy beating faster mopars and chevy and fords that either have alot more cubes or high on nitrous. So what was your point? Better yet what is your pride and joy?
Posted By: 340man4ever

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/09/12 08:33 PM

My car:

1974 Dodge Dart Swinger 2dr 3300lbs race ready on line.

Flat top piston 440, zero decked, (11.25:1 compression) with ported 915 heads- Flow 268/207 peak. I run mopar 590 solid cam, M1 single plane intake, McCandless headers, 850HP carb./ 9.5 Dynamic converter (high gear flashes 5100)
Mopar Superstock leaf springs, clamped in rear with pinion angle set at 6.5 degrees nose down. Mopar long drag shocks in rear, 3 way Competition Engineerings in front. 6cyl Torsion bars / 30x9 Hoosier slicks. 4.30 rear gear

Bests for 2011 footbraking:

10.77 @ 122.8mph 1/4 mile Cedar Falls Raceway Sept 23

Incrementals:

1.47 60ft 6.80 1/8th @ 99.79 mph

Looking forward to this year!
Posted By: shoebox

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/09/12 10:23 PM

i like combo posts like this.. i can feel ya on the low buck side of the story. it can get a lil depressing when you want to have a nice car but it just takes cash you AINT getting!
my junks not together but
74 dart sport all steel
440 cast crank ly rods
2295s mile down in the hole. nothings cut
stealth heads going to the porter soon
comp solid flat tappet 250 256 530 540 108
cheap deep pan, windage tray m1 or ??? intake
800holley DP 2 inch pro parts. 4000+ 9inch TCI 3.70 gear in ford 8.8
27 inch hoosiers would like some low 11's
Posted By: Bob_Coomer

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/09/12 10:58 PM

Buddy's dart..
Cast iron head small block, no roller cam, no dominator carb, its no light weight either. mini tub'd 68 dart with cal tracks, and 28x10 tires...
Runs 9.90's and 10'ohs in the heat. No power adder's too, all motor..
3000 pound big block eater...

Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 12:28 AM

Mines a 79 360.030 over. Kb 10.5 kb piston, eagle rod stock crank, .525 hy comp cam. 8 1/4 rear with 4.10's with 28-10.5 et streets. Tagged tittled and insured.. 12.50's at 106.
Posted By: slippery440

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 12:54 AM

Quote:

Buddy's dart..
Cast iron head small block, no roller cam, no dominator carb, its no light weight either. mini tub'd 68 dart with cal tracks, and 28x10 tires...
Runs 9.90's and 10'ohs in the heat. No power adder's too, all motor..
3000 pound big block eater...





All I can say is wow!!!!!
Proves that we can go fast with a good set up and not spend a fortune.
Posted By: slippery440

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 12:58 AM

Quote:

Mines a 79 360.030 over. Kb 10.5 kb piston, eagle rod stock crank, .525 hy comp cam. 8 1/4 rear with 4.10's with 28-10.5 et streets. Tagged tittled and insured.. 12.50's at 106.



My buddies car is a Aspen and they are not light ether. 12.50S Is a nice ET.
Posted By: 340B5

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 01:21 AM

Quote:

Buddy's dart..
Cast iron head small block, no roller cam, no dominator carb, its no light weight either. mini tub'd 68 dart with cal tracks, and 28x10 tires...
Runs 9.90's and 10'ohs in the heat. No power adder's too, all motor..
3000 pound big block eater...





What's the engine stroke/combo on that one?
Posted By: challengermike

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 05:08 AM

My last mopar was built cheaply and it did have a 440 stroked to 499

Cat crank and rods
kieth black forged pistons
weind team g intake
850 holley
comp xtreme engery cam 252 dur 540/555 lift
3,200 stall
3.91s

It was a fun street car that ran 7.6s in the 1/8
I had 10k into building the whole car including buying the car.
I did all the work myself and did alot of buying of used parts.
Went from this

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Posted By: challengermike

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 05:10 AM

to this

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Posted By: Bob_Coomer

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 05:44 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Buddy's dart..
Cast iron head small block, no roller cam, no dominator carb, its no light weight either. mini tub'd 68 dart with cal tracks, and 28x10 tires...
Runs 9.90's and 10'ohs in the heat. No power adder's too, all motor..
3000 pound big block eater...





What's the engine stroke/combo on that one?


Its a .100+ over 318 block, and a 4" stroke crank...
Compression is close to 13.5:1
I keep telling him to add a roller and dominator and that thing would pickup several tenth's. But e says he has to add a bunch more for tech too. I gotta agree, I have seen him run whole race weekends and never take a look under the hood.
Posted By: Smoparmike

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 08:15 AM

I have a 64 Plymouth 440 30 over stock stroke ly rods ross dome pistons solid cam ported 452 heads M-1 intake 950 holley 8-3/4 with 4.56s on super stock springs 30x9 slicks.Best et 10.86 123mph. Race weight 3680#. 5 years and counting.
Posted By: 383man

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 08:59 AM

I dont consider 10's slow at all. For the como's I see on here they run pretty good. My 63 is a street car with a 440 and 4.15 crank with Indy heads and a flat tappet cam. Indy dual plane intake and 850 DP. So far on 92 pump thru the pipes at 3700 lbs it run 10.76 @ 124.49. But I only have 7 passes on the eng so I hope to improve next year. Ron
Posted By: ChrisJohnston669

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 09:05 AM

Quote:

Buddy's dart..
Cast iron head small block, no roller cam, no dominator carb, its no light weight either. mini tub'd 68 dart with cal tracks, and 28x10 tires...
Runs 9.90's and 10'ohs in the heat. No power adder's too, all motor..
3000 pound big block eater...





That's straight impressive.
Posted By: 340man4ever

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 03:23 PM



Quote:

Buddy's dart..
Cast iron head small block, no roller cam, no dominator carb, its no light weight either. mini tub'd 68 dart with cal tracks, and 28x10 tires...
Runs 9.90's and 10'ohs in the heat. No power adder's too, all motor..
3000 pound big block eater...





What heads on this car? I know they are cast iron.....

Combo sounds super impressive!
Posted By: Bob_Coomer

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 03:47 PM

They are W2's... Home Ported, with a set of Gold Crane rockers.
He races all the Chrysler series over here on the east Coast... He hardly misses a race....
He dyno'd the engine when it was first assemble. It did make 630hp, and the dyno has been known to be accurate.
Posted By: JBurch

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/10/12 05:30 PM

Vic, I gotta tell you, my Junk 65 Barracuda, is Junkier than yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not as rough as it was when I got it; it doesn't have a Fred Flintstone floor pan any more, nor do the quarters have holes you can put your head thru. It's flat black, pained with a brush, I embrace it's crudeness!! It's over looked till it goes down the track and then people sit up and take notice.

A stock stroke 360, internal balance, KB 107's, Sir rods, Hughes ported E-brock heads, M1 single plane, Holley DP750, MP 557 cam, Hughes 1.6 rockers, 5000 stall PTC converter, John Cope race built 904, Cal-Tracks w/mono leaf springs, 8 3/4, choice of 4.88/4.56 gears, Hoosier 28x9 slicks, 3030 lbs with me in it.

Best 1/4 mile time is 11.10@ 120 mph, best 1/8 mile time is 6.94, best 60ft is 1.455.

10 years building and less than ten grand invested.

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Posted By: slippery440

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/11/12 12:55 AM

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Vic, I gotta tell you, my Junk 65 Barracuda, is Junkier than yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not as rough as it was when I got it; it doesn't have a Fred Flintstone floor pan any more, nor do the quarters have holes you can put your head thru. It's flat black, pained with a brush, I embrace it's crudeness!! It's over looked till it goes down the track and then people sit up and take notice.

A stock stroke 360, internal balance, KB 107's, Sir rods, Hughes ported E-brock heads, M1 single plane, Holley DP750, MP 557 cam, Hughes 1.6 rockers, 5000 stall PTC converter, John Cope race built 904, Cal-Tracks w/mono leaf springs, 8 3/4, choice of 4.88/4.56 gears, Hoosier 28x9 slicks, 3030 lbs with me in it.

Best 1/4 mile time is 11.10@ 120 mph, best 1/8 mile time is 6.94, best 60ft is 1.455.

10 years building and less than ten grand invested.



Jim anytime you say that it not true. You have one of the most look at cars down there. Anyone can own a Dart but how many 65 Cudas do we see? That car just runs great.
Posted By: JLC

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/11/12 01:56 AM

64 Polara 500, 440.030, cam .572 .579, 440 source heads, Mopar crossram intake, 4.30 gears,ss springs, 12.00 @ 114.52. all steel weight ?.
Posted By: 340man4ever

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/11/12 06:15 AM

Keep em coming.......

But in the theme of the original poster:

Budget minded and stock stroke combos!
Posted By: carolinacuda

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/11/12 10:01 PM

I gots a 74 cuda and im in the same boat as alot of people although i do have a few good parts on my engine, it's still pretty basic combo. I ran out of money so i have just kept it the way it is for now. It has stock susp with 8 3/4 and 3.91 gears. A stock block/stroke 440 with trw pistons. A Hughes solid 575lift cam with Eddy Victor INT. topped by a 850 demon. Heads are Indy Ez'z stock port kind. No porting on the int nor heads. 275/60 M/T street radials. Trans is 727 with a cheap TCI 3500 stall. I normally run 11.40's but my best so far is 11.37 at 119mph. Want a better stall and do some porting. Prob got 11.10's in it. My goal is to get into 10's one day when i get money.
Posted By: mopar65

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/12/12 03:03 AM

Quote:

My car:

1974 Dodge Dart Swinger 2dr 3300lbs race ready on line.

Flat top piston 440, zero decked, (11.25:1 compression) with ported 915 heads- Flow 268/207 peak. I run mopar 590 solid cam, M1 single plane intake, McCandless headers, 850HP carb./ 9.5 Dynamic converter (high gear flashes 5100)
Mopar Superstock leaf springs, clamped in rear with pinion angle set at 6.5 degrees nose down. Mopar long drag shocks in rear, 3 way Competition Engineerings in front. 6cyl Torsion bars / 30x9 Hoosier slicks. 4.30 rear gear

Bests for 2011 footbraking:

10.77 @ 122.8mph 1/4 mile Cedar Falls Raceway Sept 23

Incrementals:

1.47 60ft 6.80 1/8th @ 99.79 mph

Looking forward to this year!



hey our cars are pretty close in engine and performance. have any pics of your dart. But here is the lowdown on my junk.
all steel 1973 dodge dart. guessing 3500 pounds race ready

1973 440 0.030 over with wisco flat tops.pistons 0.006 down.
stock stroke forged crank
eagle rods
felpro 8519 head gaskets
bowl ported Indy EZ heads
crane gold 1.6 roller rockers
manton push rods
comp cams solid roller 0.264 @ 0.050 and 634 lift with 1.6 rockers
mopar m1 tunnel-ram 2 750 cfm carter comp carbs
tti 2x3-1/2 headers
727 with dynamic 9.5 converter stall around 4500
8-3/4 4.30 gears
15x8 wheels with M/T et street drag radials
this engine should be right at or real close to 11.1.1 compression. i race it with 93 pump gas.so far my best has been a 10.68 at 125 in the 1/4 and 6.88 at 100.8 1/8 mile. my car is a dog off the line. my best 60 foot was only a 1.56. also i was only running 4.10 gears when i ran the 10.68 but blew up my 8-3/4 on the fifth pass that weekend. I have sense then put a set of 4.30 gears and was only running 11.00 flat in the 1/4.that night it was 85 degrees at 11.00 pm.I only got to go to the track one time last year.I have around 7000 in the engine.I would like to make it go faster but just don't have the money right now.been thinking about just selling the car and getting out of racing.OK enough of my You guys have some nice and fast cars on here. mopar65
Posted By: moparguy7074

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/12/12 03:15 AM

Here's the details of mine. 360 block .030 over with kb 107's, cast crank, stock rods. Unported edelbrock rpms, 525 comp solid cam, rpm air gap intake. 750 hp holley on e-85. Has run a best of 7.13@94 in the 1/8.
Super stock springs in stock location, stock wheel tubs, 83/4 with 4.30 gears and spool.
Posted By: slippery440

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/12/12 12:33 PM

You guys are proveing to me that we low budjit guys can and do have preaty fast cars.I have read on here and other mopar sites guys with "STROKER MOTORS" that are not as fast or just a bit faster and have a ton of money into the motor. Good job guys!!!
Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/12/12 04:05 PM

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Mines a 79 360.030 over. Kb 10.5 kb piston, eagle rod stock crank, .525 hy comp cam. 8 1/4 rear with 4.10's with 28-10.5 et streets. Tagged tittled and insured.. 12.50's at 106.



My buddies car is a Aspen and they are not light ether. 12.50S Is a nice ET.


I know its 3700lbs all the crash bars are still on it. me and the car need to go on a diet.
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/12/12 04:36 PM

Quote:

With all the fastes this or that post and who has the fastes this or that. I want to see stock blocks / stock stroke crankshaft / no power adders at all. This means carburator only.



My 69 Dart with a 340 ran 7.24 @ 94 mph with a 1.54 60'. It weighed 3240# with me in it.

.030 over, Ross flat tops, ported Edlebrocks, 11.2-1 compression, Weiand X-Cellerator, Hughes hydraulic cam and Hughes rockers, 727, 8 3/4 with 4.30s. Full interior, heater, wipers and radio that doesn't work. It ran on pump 93 and could be driven anywhere and not run hot.

The 408 picked up a bit .
Posted By: deaks

Re: Slow Mopars - 01/12/12 11:19 PM

I have a budget i dont like to go over, even though i have the spare cash, so i look for good deals on used and new parts and try and glean as much info off the net and other people's experiences as i can.
The advice i've had off here as been invaluable in my pursuit of et.
My combo
Dart GTS 3200#, 440 RB, MCH ported RPM'S,12.5.1 JE domes, .590 cam, isky rockers, victor intake, 950 holley, 727 with 9" Ultimate converter, dana 60 4.56 gears, SS springs, 31x10.5 hoosiers.
Bob, what does that Dart weigh ?
Mick
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