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what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh?
Posted By: MikeyT
what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/10/11 09:59 PM
Hi
I'm looking at a 69 Dart to replace the coronet, with a built 383 in it and a 727 auto transmission. what do these cars weight with a big block and regular interior and 727 transmission?
Ballpark would be great!
Mike
Posted By: gtsdon
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/10/11 10:09 PM
My small block Dart weighs 3280. It has full interior and is all steel with an 8 point cage.
Posted By: viperblue72
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/10/11 10:10 PM
Id say 3200 to 3500 max. Aluminum wheels, aluminum intake, power steering, bench seat. These things add up.
Posted By: Cab_Burge
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/10/11 11:48 PM
My 1969 Dart 383 GTS car weighed between 3100 and 3150 without the driver with front 4x15 Centerline autodrags(first generation of centerlines that where street legal, can't rememeber the exact name
) and 165SR15 tires, 10.5x29x15 M/T darg tires on Centerline 8.5x15 Autodrag rims. No heater, radio or back seat, 1 3/4 inch diameter five point chromemoly bar with 2x2x.083 chromemoly subframe connectors, stock BB radiator with a single lightweight race seat, all iron 440 motor with a 727. Fibreglas front bumper and stock steel hood, doors and fenders
the Dusters are lighter
Posted By: Gumbydammit
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/10/11 11:51 PM
My 68 with a 383 727 8 3/4 weighed 3400 and change as it was when I first got it. with full street interior ( bench seat ) heater, etc. No roll bar.
Went 12.70 with crappy 60 foot.
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 02:34 AM
As you can see from the various posts, it will depend on exactly what you have in the car.
My 1969 Dart GTS, with a transplanted big block, 727, Dana 60, full roll cage, backhalf, but just a race interior weighs 2970+ (plus my 230). With a full interior and just a roll bar, you might be around 3200 or more.
Posted By: Big Squeeze
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 04:05 AM
My GTS with aluminum case 4-speed, blow proof bellhousing, Dana 60, full bucket seat interior, roll bar, frame connectors, aluminum heads, aluminum intake, iron exhaust manifolds, power drum brakes, steel wheels on the rear with soft side wall tires, centerlines on the front with Front Runners, fiberglass fenders, fiberglass front bumper and a full tank of gas weighs 3,350 w/out me in it......
Posted By: MikeyT
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 04:34 AM
Wow, your not kidding kind of all over the board. Yet much lighter then the 4040 weight of me and the coronet together.
The car I'm looking at is a 383 bench seat car with a 727 transmission and to be determined rear axle, guy was going to take a picture for me. It could be a dana, or a 8 1/4. I of course am hoping for the dana, but sounds like it is not a 8 3/4.
Mike
Posted By: ProSport
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 04:10 PM
My 69 weighed 3050 without driver, ladder bar, no back seat, all steel except hood and front bumper.
Posted By: Sport440
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 04:31 PM
Its not the same exact car but my Fully loaded 73 440 automatic Dart Sport weighed 3200# PS/PB, functioning Air, steel everything ETC.
On its diet it now weighs 2800# WO driver
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 04:55 PM
when you guys weigh your cars you have to be on a certified car scale or it probably wont be accurate. truck scales do not work.
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 05:34 PM
My ALMOST completely stock 69 383 GTS 4 speed weighed 3605 with my 190 lb. butt in the seat, 3/8 tank of fuel, spare and jack in the trunk on the scale at Stanton. Only item not stock was a Mandrel bent 2.5" exhaust system system.
Posted By: BSB67
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 05:50 PM
68 383 GTS 4 speed convert. w/PS - 3570 w/o driver. Don't remember the amount of fuel and if it included spare tire and jack. Car scale at Tri-State Dragway.
Posted By: fishy340
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 05:56 PM
the weight dif between dart 67 to 69 is all over the place,my bud's 68 full interior sb slum heads is like 3100 with his big butt in it,i had a 68 dart sb with stupid seats the guy had in it and it weighed over 3400 without my 215lb in it! needless to say i sold that thing.
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 10:15 PM
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when you guys weigh your cars you have to be on a certified car scale or it probably wont be accurate. truck scales do not work.
WHY WOULD TRUCK SCALES BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CERT SCALES??
boy this ought to be good! 
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 10:17 PM
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when you guys weigh your cars you have to be on a certified car scale or it probably wont be accurate. truck scales do not work.
WHY WOULD TRUCK SCALES BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CERT SCALES??
boy this ought to be good!
why? because they are not calibrated for accuracy down the 100s of pounds. try it some time smart guy 
Posted By: dannysbee
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 10:22 PM
A good place to weigh your car without taking it to the track is anywhere there is commerce involved with the use of the scale, as in a scrap yard where they are buying metals. They are checked by the state and must meet standards.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 10:25 PM
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when you guys weigh your cars you have to be on a certified car scale or it probably wont be accurate. truck scales do not work.
WHY WOULD TRUCK SCALES BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CERT SCALES??
boy this ought to be good!
why? because they are not calibrated for accuracy down the 100s of pounds. try it some time smart guy
umm...yes they are. There is legal requirement to certify them to +/- 20lbs (withing the weights they measure. And they are usually very accurate at lighter weights.
The Unitec company certifies our scale to +/- 10 lbs. We weight EVERY truck we build (have too) to determine tare weight.
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 10:33 PM
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when you guys weigh your cars you have to be on a certified car scale or it probably wont be accurate. truck scales do not work.
WHY WOULD TRUCK SCALES BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CERT SCALES??
boy this ought to be good!
why? because they are not calibrated for accuracy down the 100s of pounds. try it some time smart guy
umm...yes they are. There is legal requirement to certify them to +/- 20lbs (withing the weights they measure. And they are usually very accurate at lighter weights.
The Unitec company certifies our scale to +/- 10 lbs. We weight EVERY truck we build (have too) to determine tare weight.
well having been an over the road driver I can tell you normal big truck scales that I have seen are no where near accurate from scale to scale. and some of the cars I have seen weighed on truck scales usually are heavy compared to a certified race scale at a track.so whatever floats your boat.
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 10:47 PM
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when you guys weigh your cars you have to be on a certified car scale or it probably wont be accurate. truck scales do not work.
WHY WOULD TRUCK SCALES BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CERT SCALES??
boy this ought to be good!
why? because they are not calibrated for accuracy down the 100s of pounds. try it some time smart guy [/quote
SMART GUY! I HAVE , THE SCALES I HAVE BEEN TO I CAN WEIGH A 10# BAG SUGAR ON, CLOSE ENOUGH??
MERRY CHRISTMAS
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 10:50 PM
and that may very well be the case, but they are all not like that.
Posted By: W5Duster436
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 11:00 PM
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why? because they are not calibrated for accuracy down the 100s of pounds. try it some time smart guy
Makes me wonder as a year or so ago I took my duster down the road to a company that has a scale and at the time the car weighed 3260 without me in it. I thought that sounded about right. So last spring while Ryan had my engine I converted it over to wilwood and strange disc brakes and also put on streetlites and a cage. All told I probably should have at least lost 100 lbs even after adding the cage. So I took it to the scales a few months ago and what do you know it weighed exactly 3260 again?!? I had even lost 25-30 lbs and was definitely left scratching my head.
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/11/11 11:00 PM
SORRY FOR THE BAD LUCK ON YOUR SCALES,
scales can get knocked out, due to no maintance, weather, bad truck drivers, slamming brakes on it worse thing.
but if they are cert they have to be accurate +or- within # s not 100s of # why you say, because everyone get paid off scales in almost everything, including gas to cereal , if the scale is cert, and someone is cert it that way , he is not doing his job!
Posted By: MikeyT
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/12/11 12:01 AM
Holy crap! Mu simple question turned into a study of validity in scales!! awesome!
Anyway, this Dart I'm looking at has dana60 rear axle, that should make quicktree happy.
Mike
Posted By: codfish
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/12/11 12:27 AM
My 68 with bb, aluminum heads, wp, etc..., 727, Dana 60, steelies, FULL interior, etc... weighs 3600.
codfish
Posted By: nasty68
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/12/11 02:57 AM
My 68 all steel except hemi hood, 383, iron head, auto, full exhaust, no power anything, 8 3/4 rear with ladder bars, race buckets, with back seat and a 10pt cage is 3190 without me in it.
Posted By: BDS871Cuda
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/12/11 03:12 AM
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Holy crap! Mu simple question turned into a study of validity in scales!! awesome!
Mike
Everybody here on Moparts is an expert on everything, even truck drivers.
If you want to learn more on scales check out Weightronix. If you
want to learn about 69 Darts then Moparts is the
place to get 1,000 different answers!
Posted By: dustergirl340
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/12/11 01:12 PM
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My 68 with bb, aluminum heads, wp, etc..., 727, Dana 60, steelies, FULL interior, etc... weighs 3600.
codfish
I believe it. My '76 Dart is a fat turd too.
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/12/11 01:24 PM
My 71 Demon is right at 3470.The car lost 60 lbs with aluminum heads,water pump/housing and radiator.
440/727/Dana 60.'Glass hood and 1 seat,no carpet 6 pt roll bar.the rest of the car is all steel.
And I will say that Quicktree is correct.On some scales here as I weighed my car/trailer at 2 different scales and the weights were different by over 100lbs.I don't know about OTR scales,I didn't use one of those.Next time I'm using the scale at the race track.
Posted By: tboomer
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/12/11 01:28 PM
I think 493 Darts 1970 came in around 3100? We weighed at the track and my beater came in at 3230..
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/12/11 01:54 PM
Ok just scaled our 69 dart gts, bb, auto, 8 3/4 all factory, stock wheels, 2 truck scales ,and 1 portable came in at 3360, grain scales said 3380, truck scales on I55 said 3350
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/12/11 05:36 PM
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Ok just scaled our 69 dart gts, bb, auto, 8 3/4 all factory, stock wheels, 2 truck scales ,and 1 portable came in at 3360, grain scales said 3380, truck scales on I55 said 3350
now go to a division or national event race and weigh it and come back and report.
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/13/11 12:07 AM
We have weight it at Gateway ,RT 66,& Indy. Gateway was the heaviest
RT66 lightest, Indy same as truck scales on I55,
We also have a 68 bb dart gts, weights 100 lighter
So have enough scales time with the cars ,25-30# not enough for me to care about
carry on
Posted By: JAMESDART
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/20/11 05:29 PM
my 69 dart, all steel, steel police wheels with the fronts narrowed, 383, 727, and dana 60, full interior bench seat, headers 3" full exhaust, aluminum rad and intake, manual steering, 11" discs up front 11" drums on back. 3380 lbs on e-town scale.
Posted By: lowbudget
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/20/11 06:22 PM
Yes, a Dart will be lighter. However, you will never replace the cool factor of the Coronet...just something to consider. I had a 69 Charger at one point and replaced it with my current 69 Dart and always kinda regreted it. Would the Dart always be faster cause of the weight advantage? sure. But the B bodys definately are more stylish (my opinion here) and you dont see them as often at the dragstrip. Especially ones that run quick
Posted By: 70blackfish
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/21/11 03:51 PM
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Yes, a Dart will be lighter. However, you will never replace the cool factor of the Coronet...just something to consider. I had a 69 Charger at one point and replaced it with my current 69 Dart and always kinda regreted it. Would the Dart always be faster cause of the weight advantage? sure. But the B bodys definately are more stylish (my opinion here) and you dont see them as often at the dragstrip. Especially ones that run quick
I would take a 67-69 dart over any cornet...thats Just my opinion..
Posted By: deaks
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/21/11 03:58 PM
I have a 69 GTS but i think the 68-9 Coronets are sleeker than the Dart but not the others, personally, i like early E bodies the best and yours is the coolest on here Blackfish.
A body's are cooler, when you're running half a second quicker down the track with the same motor.
Mick
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/21/11 05:04 PM
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Yes, a Dart will be lighter. However, you will never replace the cool factor of the Coronet...just something to consider. I had a 69 Charger at one point and replaced it with my current 69 Dart and always kinda regreted it. Would the Dart always be faster cause of the weight advantage? sure. But the B bodys definately are more stylish (my opinion here) and you dont see them as often at the dragstrip. Especially ones that run quick
I would take a 67-69 dart over any cornet...thats Just my opinion..
I have the best of both worlds , a 69 dart AND a 69 coronet
Posted By: CHAPPER
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/22/11 02:33 AM
A-bodies are cool...B-bodies have more room to work on them. My last B-body race car weighed 3077# at the line...my new/light, all steel except the hood, original glass, A-body, weighs 3300# at the line. Also, my A-body is street legal with all the comforts of home inside. The B-body was 'stripped/gutted/not street legal/cutup/lightened/fiberglass everywhere/lexan/did I mention stipped..' you get the idea and comparison. I also prefer the B-body cars.
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/22/11 02:34 PM
only if it has a small block sitting in it
put 440, 2" headers, shes pretty full too
Posted By: chryco
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/23/11 12:16 AM
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Yes, a Dart will be lighter. However, you will never replace the cool factor of the Coronet...just something to consider. I had a 69 Charger at one point and replaced it with my current 69 Dart and always kinda regreted it. Would the Dart always be faster cause of the weight advantage? sure. But the B bodys definately are more stylish (my opinion here) and you dont see them as often at the dragstrip. Especially ones that run quick
I would take a 67-69 dart over any cornet...thats Just my opinion..
I have the best of both worlds , a 69 dart AND a 69 coronet
Hey! Same here ! Can`t have just one !
Posted By: Mopar-Al
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/23/11 03:17 AM
I have a full round tube chassis 68 dart. Lots of light weight parts in it. It was weighed at the gateway track. 2655 with a 185 lb driver. I'm 235 lbs. 520 ci with glide. Soon to have a 512 B1 installed over the winter. Lighten doors, dipped body with stretched quarters, lexan, fiberglass. fun little car.
Posted By: 493_DART
Re: what does a 69 Dart with a big block weigh? - 12/23/11 05:56 AM
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I think 493 Darts 1970 came in around 3100? We weighed at the track and my beater came in at 3230..
hi ted
it was 3060 without me.
glass hood/ bumpers
weld wheels
buckets - no back seat
5 gallons fuel
cage
RB / 727
factory brakes - dana 60
lexan 1/4 windows (worth 28lbs)