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Junkyard D150 Progress
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 01:43 AM
After removing the cab, bed, and front clip, I spent hours removing the surface rust on the frame. Was able to use the sandblaster at the local Air Base Hobby shop to blast the steering knuckles, rotors, strut rods, springs and various small items. Used Rustoleum semi gloss on the frame. Had the rotos turned, purchased rebuilt calipers, new pads, bearings, etc. Here are a few pix of my progress. Moparts members have really helped me out with parts and tech advice.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 01:46 AM
Picture of the steering box brace that scratchin told me about.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 01:49 AM
Another pix of the passenger side; found a factory weld that let loose on one of the crossmembers that I will need to get welded before I finish up the driver's side
Posted By: jagrunt551
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 01:50 AM
Looks very good !
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 01:51 AM
Front half of the frame
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 01:58 AM
Switched pans from a center to rear sump; not much room between the oil pickup and the crank throws (4.25" stroke; had to do a little repositioning to get a good 1/4".
now yur just showin off strokin it
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 02:01 AM
Also installed the motor mount brackets; will have to decide what mounts to use as the 512 shakes a bit at idle (at least it did in the Coronet I had it in previously)
Posted By: Nirvana
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 02:06 AM
Wow nice
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 02:06 AM
Thanks scratchfotraction; you have to do that once in a while
Anyway, it is fun and keeps this old man busy and out of trouble. What are you using for the rubber motor mounts? I am thinking that I will need something like a mag mount or a strut to limit the side to side movement of the engine. I heard ther are a few on the board denting their headers from the movement. One guy resorted to a front motor plate. I don't want to go that far though
Posted By: 340SHORTY
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 02:31 AM
Spiffy
get 1 of Creative Engine Swaps Torque limiter straps. I dont know if one is made for trucks but a B/E kit (shown) shoudnt be to hard to convert..
I just got a set of the polyloc mounts from member Dragula(very cheap I may add,thanks Randy)
they look to be solid enuff,but I also used a pattern off of a set of elephant ears to make a steel driver side torque strap.
I will have the one side of a truck wp housing milled the thickness of the plate so nothing moves on the belt alinement.
then weld up a quik pin mount at the frame for it.
just need to have machine work done and it will have 1 elephant ear
you could nix the mounts and let the engine bracket sit down on the frame and bolt it in solid,it has enuff room on the pan and the holes line up
when I mocked mine up looking
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 03:09 AM
Thanks guys for the ideas; I actually do have one of those torque limiter struts off of the Coronet that once the engine is in, I'll see if it will work. I could bolt it in solid but wonder about the vibes....it'll be a while before I am at that point so I have time to figure something out..
I have the card board pattern of the elephant ear if you want it to make one from alum or steel
Posted By: MoparMike23
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 04:25 PM
That chassis looks great. If you blasted the spindles, you might wanna consider clear coating them to prevent them from rusting. I couldn't tell if you treated them or not.
Keep up the good work!!!
Mike
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 07:07 PM
Thanks Mike, I clear-coated the inner and outer portion of the hub and the rest of the knuckle is ceramic coated flat gray.
Posted By: Slant6pak
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 09:21 PM
Please fill us in on that steering box brace...
I've been trying to figure out what I'm going to do on my Ramcharger.
it came stock on some trucks and it is repoped now also or a JY.
was a problem solver from the factory,the trucks like to crack the frame at the box bolt holes.
it will firm the steering right up,a swaybar up front is another good upgrade on the 2x trucks.
not sure where he got his,it looks new,but then agian everything he has done up looks new
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/02/11 09:45 PM
Click on the Dodge Connection (sponsors on the site) They had them in stock for around $48.00
http://www.dodgeconnection.com/catalog/item/2901766/4541374.htm
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/11/11 08:31 PM
The welder is going to show up Mon Morning, so I thought that I would use my engine hoist to raise the frame so it wouldn't be so hard to weld.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/11/11 08:33 PM
Plumbed in the brake lines and installed adel clamps to secure the lines. Also installed the center link, idler arm and pass side tie rod assembly.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/11/11 08:35 PM
Rear brake line
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/11/11 08:38 PM
Friend of mine said that I should highlight the valve covers after I painted them black wrinkle. So I used a sanding block and crocus cloth to remove the paint off of the highlighted Indy Logo.
Posted By: 77ProStreet
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/11/11 09:34 PM
WOW! Your frame looks great! I love to see the progress, It gives us inspiration!
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WOW! Your frame looks great! I love to see the progress, It gives us inspiration!
100%,he has raised the bar for detail and workmanship.
progress updates
VC are SSWWWWEEEEEEEETTTTT!!!!!!!!
Posted By: G-Money1320
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/12/11 12:10 AM
Wow!! That really looks good
I am going to redo my 4x4 frame next year and hope it looks half as good as yours. Keep up the good work!!
That garage looks more like a vehicle bedroom than a garage
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/12/11 12:13 AM
Thanks guys; I spend so much time in the garage that my wife says I might as well move a bed out there.
Anyway I should be able to get the front crossmember welded tomorrow morning then I can press on with the rest of the frontend...
Posted By: 76dodgeboy
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/12/11 12:17 AM
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Also installed the motor mount brackets; will have to decide what mounts to use as the 512 shakes a bit at idle (at least it did in the Coronet I had it in previously)
Diesel Same style rubber mount as slant 6 to 440
Posted By: hp383
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/12/11 05:31 AM
what brake system are you going to be using? Manual or power? I dont think you are going to get even the small diameter power booster to clear those valve covers.
Are you going to use a relocation kit, or
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/12/11 04:23 PM
hp383, it'll be manual brakes and I hope the heater box clears the VC or it will be heater delete too
Posted By: hp383
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/12/11 05:10 PM
If the heater box is an issue, and you want some heat, this item might help.
If you buy just the inside the cabin part, and plumb it into your original heater hose lines. You will have heat, in a nice compact unit.
Heck you may even be able to duct it so the vents work.
http://www.aquahotoffroad.com/Pages/offroadheater.htm
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/13/11 12:35 AM
hp383, thanks for the good info and link on the heater.
Well Owen and his welding truck showed up this morning and he did an outstanding job on welding the bottom of the k member that had been seperated from the factory. Finished painting the front of the frame, installed a resealed PS box, and pass tie rod assembly.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/13/11 12:37 AM
Another pix
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/13/11 12:44 AM
BTW, does anyone have a parking brake cable bell crank that is not frozen that they want to sell? I heated mine to red hot and pounded like crazy and the bolt maybe moved a 32nd of an inch. If I could just get the bolt and bushings out I was planning on replacing the bushings with roller bearings if I could find a set that diameter. Anyway, let me know if anyone has one that they would be willing to part with. Thanks
Looks great! Keep up the good work and keep posting pics
Posted By: hp383
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/13/11 04:20 PM
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Also installed the motor mount brackets; will have to decide what mounts to use as the 512 shakes a bit at idle (at least it did in the Coronet I had it in previously)
Diesel Same style rubber mount as slant 6 to 440
As Harry mentioned the 89-93 Diesel motor mounts are a bolt in fit for the /6 and v8 engines.
I used them on my 440 swap in the Ramcharger. They are a tad taller, maybe 3/16 to 1/4 inch. But they have more material, and are very tough. Also they have the locking tabs so if they do fail, the motor wont jump out and head down the road by itself.
Surprisingly the mount on the left is the cheaper Anchor #2710 and it has more material, and is better than the more expensive NAPA mount.
The middle is the stock, factory mount, well torn.
For more info, and a followup on the mounts performance after racing, follow the link:
Anchor #2710 1st gen Diesel motor mount
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/13/11 06:04 PM
Thanks guys for the info on the mounts; it's clear that the diesel mounts are the way to go as, like you stated, there is rubber material between the locking tabs. Again, thanks a bunch.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/13/11 08:15 PM
Well, I checked 3 stores that had the Anchor 2710 mounts and all of them were the same; seems like now there is no material bewteen the locking tabs like in the picture. I bought a set anyway as there is almost twice as much material in the diesel mounts versus the stock mounts. Hopefully the increase in height will not affect the mounting of the motor.
Posted By: hp383
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/13/11 08:59 PM
The extra height shouldn't hurt. As i said these are what I have in my 93 Ramchager that I had swapped to a 440.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/13/11 11:40 PM
hp383, I instlled the mounts and set the engine in; maybe the extra height will be better for header fitment???? I will post pix tonite of the engine in the frame. Thanks for your help
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/14/11 12:00 AM
Here is a pix of the engine setting in the frame. I used my engine stand support and a piece of 36" rectangle tubing to support the rear.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/14/11 12:02 AM
Lots of room underneath the pan; here's a pix of the pass side using diesel engine mounts.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/14/11 12:04 AM
Driver's side
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/14/11 12:07 AM
And left front view. Click on the attachment to really get a closeup view on each of the pix.
Posted By: hp383
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/14/11 01:15 AM
You need some paint on that oil pump, its starting to flash rust
Posted By: hp383
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/14/11 01:19 AM
Ok, what are the "extra" bolts for at the bottom of the engine block. Just above the oil pan. looks to be 4 on each side.
Posted By: poorboy
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/14/11 01:45 AM
My guess would be the main bearings are cross bolted, think 4 bolt mains, Hemi style. Two in the normal location, and two through the side of the block. Gene
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/14/11 02:01 AM
hp383, this is a cross bolted main block. A dodge dealer on the east coast was one of the ones ordered to close and they liquidated all their parts. I bought the MP (World) bare block for less than half price and built a 512 out of it. Had issues with the releif valve sticking when I ran it on a friend's dyno and had to change the pump out. I'll touch up the block before its all over with. LOL Do you think the extra little rise caused by the diesel mounts will help the header clearances??? It has about 8 dyno pulls and 500 road miles on it already. Friend couldn't afford the 67 Coronet with the motor so I pulled it and we put in a mild 440 and he is happy. And I will be happy; might take a while but the work keeps me occupied; better than sittin in the rockin chair
Posted By: hp383
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/14/11 02:10 AM
Not sure how much the rise helps, but I installed a set of Flowtech headers (Had them installed with help of friends).
The tubes all clear, and nothing had to be dinged. The headers will still a pita to get in there. If doing it again, I would install the headers in the truck, then drop in the motor.
Posted By: quickd100
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/15/11 03:31 AM
Larry; As usual you do flawless work! Looks to nice to drive. Dave
Posted By: cageman
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/15/11 08:57 AM
Boy that is a nice looking frame, where in ND are you from?
Posted By: 76dodgeboy
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/15/11 11:17 AM
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Not sure how much the rise helps, but I installed a set of Flowtech headers (Had them installed with help of friends).
The tubes all clear, and nothing had to be dinged. The headers will still a pita to get in there. If doing it again, I would install the headers in the truck, then drop in the motor.
Arent Bigblocks 2 and 4wd specific when it comes to headers?
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Not sure how much the rise helps, but I installed a set of Flowtech headers (Had them installed with help of friends).
The tubes all clear, and nothing had to be dinged. The headers will still a pita to get in there. If doing it again, I would install the headers in the truck, then drop in the motor.
Arent Bigblocks 2 and 4wd specific when it comes to headers?
my flow techs that listed for 2x and 4x4 did not fit on the 2x truck on driver side,beat 50% of #1 tube almost flat and still did not fit flowtech = junk
the passide will have the tubes moved over for the front drive shaft to move up and down with chassis/driveline flex.
I would go with hedmans that are BB 2x spicific,IMHO
Posted By: 1E2C
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/17/11 09:21 PM
Larry,
Did you ever find a usable bellcrank? I got out to check the parts truck and the one on there still pivots. Not freely of course, but I can swing it by hand, so it's a good candidate for repairs. I might could get out there this weekend and get it if you want or you can come get it.
Mike
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/17/11 10:01 PM
You have a PM Mike..
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/18/11 12:29 AM
Thanks Scratch; hey I think 1E2C has a p. brake bellcrank that moves and he is close to me.
Got a question about 727s will a standard long (18 3/8") tailshaft work in my frame? Or do I need a short shaft one? Thanks
Larry
yes a standerd long tail shaft 727 fits
center of trans mount bolts should be 7" from rear of trans case.
most short shafts have this same 7" distance and will work with the slip/spline drive shaft.
the BB 727 i have in my truck was from a 1 1/4 ton MH cassis,the center of mount bolts was 5"..I had to move my xmember foward 2" and build it from square stock and the lower support braces of the stock cross member.
it also used a early flat thin rubber trans mount like a 71 truck,the spedo was behind the mount and not in front so a stock xmember no worky.
that would be the only thing to watch for hunting,as long as the spaceing is 7" it bolts in.
glad you got the e-brake peice,i had no luck in the JY today for anything,nice walk in nice weather though
this 727 shorty was the first oddball one I have seen with the mount,speedo,huge 4 5/8 u-joint...the yoke did swap out to a 7260 though.
Posted By: 1E2C
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/18/11 01:12 AM
They all came with the standard long tailshaft 727, I'm even using the original automatic driveshaft with my 833 setup since it's all the typical stuff. It starts to get strange with some of the heavy duty or 4WD stuff though.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/18/11 01:52 AM
Thanks Scratch and Mike for the good info..
Posted By: Jwilli500
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/19/11 04:19 PM
Just an FYI, Rock Auto currently has a smoking closeout deal on the 2710 Anchor Brand mounts! $6.41 + ship each! I bought 2 pairs (4 mounts) and it was $34.30 to my door! For that price I'll have 'em on the shelf when I get ready for 'em.
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Also installed the motor mount brackets; will have to decide what mounts to use as the 512 shakes a bit at idle (at least it did in the Coronet I had it in previously)
Diesel Same style rubber mount as slant 6 to 440
As Harry mentioned the 89-93 Diesel motor mounts are a bolt in fit for the /6 and v8 engines.
I used them on my 440 swap in the Ramcharger. They are a tad taller, maybe 3/16 to 1/4 inch. But they have more material, and are very tough. Also they have the locking tabs so if they do fail, the motor wont jump out and head down the road by itself.
Surprisingly the mount on the left is the cheaper Anchor #2710 and it has more material, and is better than the more expensive NAPA mount.
The middle is the stock, factory mount, well torn.
For more info, and a followup on the mounts performance after racing, follow the link:
Anchor #2710 1st gen Diesel motor mount
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/19/11 05:40 PM
Thanks Jwilli500, I am using the diesel mounts and like you said there is a lot more mateerial than the stock mounts.
1E2C thanks for the parking brake bellcrank; I polished the bolt, lubed it, painted it and it moves like a pendelum on a cukkoo clock.
Posted By: 1E2C
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/20/11 08:12 AM
Good deal Larry, nice to know things work out sometimes.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/20/11 08:02 PM
Hooked up the pitman arm, installed PS lines to the box and saginaw pump. No leaks so far; I'll have to figure out what pulley I need for the pump, appears that I need a big block press on pulley so the belts will line up. Pulleys, fuel pump and lines next.. Anyone know if they make a 3/8" pickup/sending unit for this D150? Might have to run a fuel cell in the bed...
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/20/11 08:04 PM
Side view
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/20/11 11:23 PM
Decided to use adel clamps to keep the lines from rubbing each other and it looks neater too.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/20/11 11:27 PM
Side view of the plumbing
IIRC they dodnt have a 3/8 pick up for them,I think you could make it into 3/8 maybe??
I went with the cel in the bed sitting on 500 CI caddy pistons.
you can drop in thru the floor in the back to hide it as well
I hung my filter and pump on the frame rail and run a 1/2 feed with a 3/8 to car with a 3/8 return line.
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/21/11 03:46 PM
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Just an FYI, Rock Auto currently has a smoking closeout deal on the 2710 Anchor Brand mounts! $6.41 + ship each! I bought 2 pairs (4 mounts) and it was $34.30 to my door! For that price I'll have 'em on the shelf when I get ready for 'em.
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Thaks for the heads up!
Just ordered 6 of them. Less than 10 each to my door! They only have 8 left at this price!
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/21/11 06:37 PM
Scratch, thats a good idea; I thin I'll pull the sending unit out and see how hard it would be to make it a 3/8" pickup. Are the sending units still avialable? I have looked but not found any sites that offer them.
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/21/11 07:39 PM
I just bought a new sending unit for my 78 through my dealer, still a good number.
Kasey
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/21/11 10:47 PM
Thanks moparnut426; I have a parts book so I'll see if they are still available.
Posted By: 98RAM1500
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/22/11 02:40 AM
thats a very clean truck your building Hemi_Ram, heres a site that has alot of dodge truck parts even fuel sending units
http://www.jimsautoparts.com/nos_truck_parts.htm
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/22/11 05:16 AM
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/22/11 05:53 AM
Thanks for the link to Jim's but oh my goodness the prices are so out of site that they are more than a Hemi RR or and A12 car. Are these D150s going to be on the block for $100,000.00 at Barrett Jackson?? No thanks, when he wants $119.00 for a shifter boot. He will have his inventory of Dodge truck parts for many many years....I have restored many A bodies and B bodies and never spent what he wants for the truck parts....
Posted By: 98RAM1500
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/22/11 12:45 PM
Yeah I thought they were alittle pricey myself lol, especailly the dome lamp lens for the interior, I have like 5 or 6 of them lying around in a parts barn.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/23/11 05:23 AM
Well, went out today to Swangler Wrecking/Auto Parts and they hooked me up with the pulleys I needed for the crank and waterpump.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/28/11 07:50 PM
Installed the crank and waterpump pullies after cleaning and painting them. Should have the PS pulley on later this week. Finished scraping/sanding/wire brushing the rest of the frame and coated it with rustoleum satin; a few areas I will have to touch up but it's good enough for now. Also removed the rear diff and springs; will have to decide on the springs and what diff to run. Looks like the big HP trucks are running some sort of caltracs by the posts I read.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/28/11 07:52 PM
Another pix from the rear.
the shackle flip and axle floped on top of the springs sets it right up for caltracs and lowers the truck 4-5 inches,it will give a nice drag truck stance,ride much better.
a few of the high HP trucks are running the flip flop,I did mine this way after seeing member 'clutch' blue drag truck with a wheels up launch.
very ez to do and uses all stock truck/car parts.
hers a shot of the shackle flip,you use a set of front spring hangers on the back,use car shock plates and u-bolts,wagon shocks...and now would be the time in your build as it apart and ez to get at.
heres a pic of member clutchs truck with a flip flop with caltracs set up in action.
stock spring/flip flop/caltracs
your stroker should get it done with some stickys
i have done about 5 truck with the flip flop now after seeing his truck,works really well on a drag truck or a street bruzer
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/28/11 08:19 PM
scratch, what are you running for springs on the rear? I'll have to check the wrecking yard for an accessible frame to get the mounts off off. It snowed a bit last night but now most of it is gone; so it will be easy to walk through
the yard....
pic of my stepside when i did it,not to low but just right for the street.
flip flop and a stock front end
more work than just useing the long chebby shackles but much better ride and no wheel hop like a axle under spring has in a truck.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/28/11 08:30 PM
So clutch is using stock leaf springs, flip/flop and caltracs? Did he clamp any of the leaves? Nice, hard launch for sure..
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scratch, what are you running for springs on the rear? I'll have to check the wrecking yard for an accessible frame to get the mounts off off. It snowed a bit last night but now most of it is gone; so it will be easy to walk through the yard....
i used my stock springs with the lower,thickest overload leaf removed,has 4 leafs per side
I used mono leafs with A-body lift bars/A-body 8 3/4/a-body shock plates/u-bolts on my 440 truck with a flip flop also,still working things out with the mono leafs but seem to have it working good with air shocks at 40 psi. it would drop and hit the frame when letting off of it.
just right now and the rear of the truck lifts about 5 inches and really plants the tires on launch.
IIRC it was stock leafs with the overload leaf removed and has 4 leafs..not sure if he has any clamps..I dont think it does.
mine dont and it has no wheel hop or leaf seperation.
its a tad lower than I like but it sure lifts and hooks so far.
IMHO,the lift bars do the same thing a caltrac does,just applys pressure on the spring from the bottom instead of the top.
may not be as good as a caltrac set up but it has the old skool slapper bar look I was after.
my front is higher than the rear so I am going to drop the front 1 or 2 inches next.
oh! one side note on the shackle flip...you turn it around 180* so the shackle does not bind on the leaf when its fliped...you will see what I am talking about when you get there..
when I removed the stock rear hanger,i used the top front hole and drilled the other 3 holes and used 1/2 bolts/nuts on the frame.
you have to have the shackle bolted up to the hanger when you bolt it on as the spring bolt is captured by the frame and bracket.
hardest thing is removeing the rivets from the hangers
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/28/11 09:10 PM
Thanks scratch; your' yellow truck looks great
I'd like to see a pix of the installed caltracs on a d150, especially interested on how the caltrac bracket functions inside of the stock front hanger. Maybe I'll do a search to see if there are any pics. Thanks for the great info and inside tips on this topic..
Posted By: Flite_727
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/28/11 10:28 PM
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Thanks scratch; your' yellow truck looks great I'd like to see a pix of the installed caltracs on a d150, especially interested on how the caltrac bracket functions inside of the stock front hanger. Maybe I'll do a search to see if there are any pics. Thanks for the great info and inside tips on this topic..
here's a pic of my homemade caltrac copy (minus the transfer link) with a homemade adj. front spring hanger on my '77 ramcharger
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/28/11 10:37 PM
Flite727, I like that front spring hanger; what are you using for the rear hanger?
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Thanks scratch; your' yellow truck looks great I'd like to see a pix of the installed caltracs on a d150, especially interested on how the caltrac bracket functions inside of the stock front hanger. Maybe I'll do a search to see if there are any pics. Thanks for the great info and inside tips on this topic..
here's a pic of my homemade caltrac copy (minus the transfer link) with a homemade adj. front spring hanger on my '77 ramcharger
Hi jeff hows the RC comeing along?
check out the shackles and mounts on this oldie but goodie
i should also note..flight727 was the other insperation for me to sell my 68 dart and put the A-body 8 3/4 and 12" rims in my 85 truck
i would never even had the thought of such a thing with out him showing me the first pic of his stepside.
and the RC should be just as sweet build wise.
IIRC,this truck is long gone now but it got me to rolling
my stepside is to get this weight reduction real soon also
Posted By: 340SHORTY
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/29/11 02:38 AM
for the cost of Cal Tracks,on top of the cost of finding the other mounts I believe it would be cheaper and a lot more adjustable by going to a 3 link or 4 link rear suspension. with that frame stripped it would be so easy..
more tire room + Fattys.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/29/11 04:31 AM
Thanks guys for the inputs/ideas; I am going to see what quickd100 has for his setup and decide where I will go from here. I have to take advantage now as it is stripped down and would be very easy/convenient to do it now rather than later.....Keep posting on this thread as I really appreciate the advice...
Posted By: Flite_727
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/29/11 04:34 AM
Quote:
Flite727, I like that front spring hanger; what are you using for the rear hanger?
right now it has stock truck/ ramcharger shackles, & they will stay there till it's complete & see how it sits & adjust from there. my old truck used A-body shackles & mounts bolted to 4"X4" square steel tube mounted to the frame.(see the pics that scratchin' posted)
Posted By: Flite_727
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/29/11 04:48 AM
Quote:
Hi jeff hows the RC comeing along?
check out the shackles and mounts on this oldie but goodie
i should also note..flight727 was the other insperation for me to sell my 68 dart and put the A-body 8 3/4 and 12" rims in my 85 truck
i would never even had the thought of such a thing with out him showing me the first pic of his stepside.
and the RC should be just as sweet build wise.
IIRC,this truck is long gone now but it got me to rolling
thanks sctatch- the ramcharger has been on standby since my daughter was born in may of '09. we live in a condo & all my junk is at my parents farm a ways away, so until we can get a place of our own w/ a pole barn or a big enough garage (soon hopefully) it will sit.
Posted By: BigTerry
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/29/11 05:12 AM
I don't know if I already ask this ..have anyone done a 94-2001 ram I like to see more info I would love to lower my truck 2 inches maybe 3 depend on the stance...any pictures of any?
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 12/29/11 04:49 PM
BigTerry, I'd start a new thread and I am sure you will get a lot of responses. While looking for shackles for my truck I noticed there are lowering kits out there.
Posted By: 1E2C
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/05/12 04:43 AM
So, what's the latest, Larry? Did you take the whole holiday period off?
Mike
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/05/12 05:30 AM
HI Mike; Happy New Year. Well the frame is all painted and I have the pullies figured out; Trying to decide on a rear end/spring combination. I know scratch has a truck 8 3/4 and that would be the easiest but I am open to other combinations. I'd like to get the complete drivetrain complete in the next month or so, so I can move on to the body work. Did you ever find out what rear is under your parts truck? Talk to you soon.
Posted By: 1E2C
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/05/12 03:28 PM
Hey Larry, Happy New Year to you too. The parts truck has an 8.25 pegleg with the 2.9 gears. There's a 77 C body 9.25 out there also, it's a S/G with 2.something gears also, don't remember the ratio though. Did you ever find a core tranny? I think I may have one of those if you haven't.
Mike
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/05/12 10:21 PM
Hi Mike, pm me on what you want for the core as I talked to quickd100 about building me one. I have a line on 2 truck 8 3/4 housings, so we'll see how that pans out. I have the same rear in my truck as you do in the parts truck..
Thanks for your help
Hey, it's 43 degrees out and the snow is melting....
heres a shot of the truck housing i have
i sand blasted it and painted it gloss black with some art work
heres my A-body one in the 88 truck
art work is optional
I like it myself and have allways done 8 3/4s up this way since i was 15 and started driveing
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/05/12 10:55 PM
And I am sure that most people see that art work as you are leaving them in the dust!!!
Posted By: 340SHORTY
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/06/12 02:36 AM
Quote:
And I am sure that most people see that art work as you are leaving them in the dust!!!
maybe if it ever gets a tranny in it LOL. Come on Scratchy,,, "Get er done"
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/06/12 03:28 AM
Finally got the pulley mess figured out, as I was running a federal pump before and now I am running a saginaw press on 3/4"
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/06/12 03:33 AM
Found a brand new March 531 pulley on ebay for about 1/3 the cost; this pulley is originally for a chevy but March lists it for a big block mopar with a press on saginaw pump. Had to use spacers to achieve the correct pulley alignment. Because it is a lot smaller than original I went back to my smaller crank pulley so I would'nt overspeed the pump bearings.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/06/12 03:37 AM
Had to clearance (grind) the oil pump boss on this MP/World Block to achieve some belt adjustablility with this type of pump. The federal pump also needed clearancing but not as much.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/26/12 11:23 PM
Little update on the D150:
1) Received a real nice 8 3/4 housing from moparmarks; it was nice with no pitting and arrived well preserved with oil. Outside and inside in excellent condition.
2) 1E2C provided me with a core 727 and quickd100 is rebuilding it as we speek with a hughes performance race kit.
3) doctordiff fixed me up with a pair of high strength axles with green bearings installed.
4) scratchinfotraction has provided me with an over abundance of tips and knowledge on this build.
I am still hunting for a good 8 3/4 chunk and a torque converter, but I assembled what I had and will probably go with caltracs after my CC stops smokin!!! One thing I can say is: it is a heck of lot cheaper to build up a truck than an A/B/E body. Here are a few pix
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/26/12 11:36 PM
Pix of brake
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/26/12 11:40 PM
Doctordiff axles
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 02/03/12 01:54 AM
Well things are moving right along; quickd100 dropped off my tranny after he overhauled it with the good parts and performed some magic on the valve body. I installed a deep pan and pickup from Mancini and a new dipstick from Bouchillon. My converter should be here the end of next week and then I can marry up the motor and trans.
and made good use of the mopar sticker
do you have a front tag yet?
any ideas for one yet?
i have one for it if you need something to start out with
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 02/03/12 03:13 AM
Mike, unfortunately ND is one of those states that require a front and rear plate; but you can get a personalized plate that is very easy to get as the state population is low....
Posted By: 1E2C
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 02/03/12 04:21 AM
Looks like it's coming right along Larry, keep up the good work.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 02/14/12 02:05 AM
Thanks for the kind words Mike.
Torque converter showed up today and I was finally able to marry up the two and bolt everything in...
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 02/14/12 02:11 AM
Another angle
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 02/14/12 02:16 AM
Last one
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/03/12 11:37 PM
Mini starter installed; had to shorten the electrical post and use part of the adapter so the cable will clear the block. Purchased a set of Ebay shorties for $189.00 and notched the frame a bit for clearance. The angled plugs clear the tubes but not by much. Straight plugged heads would have a lot of room for the boots. I am going to try some accel racing shorties to gain more boot clearance. The dipstick that I got with the truck pan would not work so I went to Napa and bought a 3/8" brake line that already had the double flare and nut on it. I put a few bends in it and made a bracket to secure to the header bolt. I am looking for a flexible dipstick indicator rather than cut the new one. It'll be for sale along a bunch of stuff soon. I plumbed in the fuel lines back to the (quiet) fuel pump. Here are a few pix.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/03/12 11:41 PM
Heres another pix
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/03/12 11:42 PM
Plumbing
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/03/12 11:47 PM
Leftside closeup
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/03/12 11:52 PM
One more showing plug clearance available for straight plugged heads and the notch to clear the header. Don't think I will have to reinforce the frame in that area as most of the weight/stress is on the bottom and sides. I'll just have to keep an eye on it once it is running. These shorties might be temporary depending on how much power is lost versus long tube headers but the truck is not going to the strip; just a big HP play toy
Posted By: 1E2C
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/04/12 01:15 AM
You're chuggin right along and it's lookin good.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/10/12 10:58 PM
Installed the Accel 416S shorty plugs; not that much shorter, but every little bit will help. Finished measuring and putting ends/boots on the plug wires and routed inside the frame rails. I can put my thumb between the outer plug boots and header tubes, so I should be good. Here are some pix.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/10/12 11:00 PM
Clearance between boots/header tube
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/10/12 11:01 PM
Front of engine
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/10/12 11:04 PM
Last pix (closeup)
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/31/12 11:57 PM
Moved the cab from outside to inside of my garage via a moving dolly and my floor jack. Cleaned and undercoated the bottom; friend and I installed the cab using my cherry picker. Was a little wobbly, but we got in on.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/31/12 11:58 PM
Not much room for the heater box.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/01/12 12:00 AM
3 piece kickdown linkage clears too!
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/01/12 12:02 AM
My cab rubber mounts were shot; one side sagged almost a 3/4". Ordered a set of cheap poly mounts. Here's a rear shot before I torque it down.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/01/12 12:04 AM
Also spent the last couple of days putting the dash back together. It looks like I will have to make a plate for the heater box opening and run a vintage air heater/defrost. If I was in the south, I wouldn't worry, but up here in ND it gets darned cold.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/01/12 12:09 AM
I am going to hook up the engine and rear frame wiring, clean up the floor, fix the door hinges and hopefully install some carpeting. My passenger fender was rusted under the paint and after searching I found a new one for $106.00 shipped. It doesnt look bad; hope it fits. The fenders, front radiator support, cowl and front filler panel are at the body shop. I have a few dings to fix, a few holes to fill and a 6" section outboard of the cab mount that needs replacing. It'll keep me busy for awhile.
you sir have raised the bar on workmanship and detail.
that thing is clean and looking sweet!
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/01/12 01:37 AM
Thanks scratch; it actually is a lot of elbow grease, rustoleum and rattle cans.. But it is coming along.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/22/12 06:44 PM
The rear end is all back together and on the ground.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/22/12 06:47 PM
Made a firewall plate out of diamond plate and installed with carraige bolts. Heater box would not fit with the 512 valve covers. Down the road I will install a small vintage air heater unit. Might be a good place to mount my MSD box too.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/22/12 06:52 PM
Used scratch's pattern to make a plate to mount the aluminum master cylinder.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/22/12 06:55 PM
Made up a couple of 1/4" mild steel reinforcement plates for the rear of the firewall. Might be a little overkill though
Posted By: rickstershemi
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/22/12 11:14 PM
Great Idea
Rickster
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/23/12 12:25 AM
Looks like I'm not the only that is using diamond plate.
That motor sure looks good rickstershemi. I like the highlights and the dark and the red contrast.
Posted By: rickstershemi
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 04/23/12 01:30 AM
Quote:
Looks like I'm not the only that is using diamond plate. That motor sure looks good rickstershemi. I like the highlights and the dark and the red contrast.
Great minds think alike
Rickster
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 05/23/12 12:22 AM
Well got the front clip on; the aftermarket fender will need massaging before paint.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 05/23/12 12:24 AM
Went with a 26" wide 4 core Champion radiator from one of the board members.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 05/23/12 12:26 AM
Painted the inner fenderwells and core support black crinkle finish
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 05/23/12 12:28 AM
Battery tray truned out great after sandbalsting the rust off and painting it
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 05/23/12 12:29 AM
Lakewood driveshaft loop. Saving up the $$ for a driveshaft and shifter; slowly but surely....
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 06/24/12 09:27 PM
Found a driver quality grille surround, 2 repro headlight bezels, and used my grille center section.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 06/24/12 09:30 PM
Most of the engine and body wiring is complete. Everything seems to work, so far.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 06/24/12 09:34 PM
Truck originally had a 318 with a 4 speed OD transmission. I made a plate out of galvanized that should be stout enough to mount my ratchet shifter to with a steel base plate.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 06/24/12 09:36 PM
Installed an inexpensive Grant steering wheel with adapter that fits nicely. Truck had cruise control and replaced the turn signal lever with a NOS Volare one that fits perfectly and it was cheap too.
Posted By: Robbins
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 06/24/12 10:35 PM
Posted By: jagrunt551
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 06/25/12 12:12 AM
Looking real nice Great job
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 06/25/12 12:55 AM
Thanks guys; the interior and the engine compartment will be nice, but I still need some body work done on the cab. But it keeps me occupied and out of the rocking chair
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 07/25/12 12:53 AM
Carpet installed with sill plates; fit was good with no trimming except for under dash.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 07/25/12 12:55 AM
Hurst pro-matic ratchet shiter in place.
Posted By: 340SHORTY
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 07/25/12 01:07 AM
Why didnt you stay with the OD833?
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 07/25/12 02:44 AM
600 hp and 620 ft lbs of torque.
Posted By: quickd100
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 07/25/12 03:04 AM
Quote:
600 hp and 620 ft lbs of torque.
I'm afraid That motor would shread OD. Dave
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 11/17/12 05:33 AM
Inside pix
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 11/17/12 05:36 AM
quickd100 welded up some 3" header pipes from the block huggers for me.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 11/17/12 05:38 AM
Texas Driveshaft hooked me up with an unbreakable shaft.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/15/13 05:56 AM
Well, I found a new 1985 takeoff box close to where my son lives, so I am off to pick it up in a few days. It was on the truck for a few months and in dry storage for 26 years; the bumps and scratches are from moving it around.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/20/13 11:08 PM
Just got back from picking up the box. Trim is missing; that's OK because all of it was coming off anyway. Fought some bad crosswinds/gusts coming back but the box stayed put; not the fuel guage though.
It's dirty and has a few scratches but it is rust free and still wearing the grey paint in the bed.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/20/13 11:10 PM
Pass side and inside
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/20/13 11:11 PM
And a pix of the driver's side
swwweeeettt!!! looks good.
looks cold as well.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/21/13 03:34 PM
Mike, the temp this morning is -21 below....BTW do you know what an 8 foot box weighs without the tailgate?
Posted By: stumpy
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/21/13 05:21 PM
Why did you go with the short shifter instead of the longer handle pickup style?
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/21/13 07:22 PM
Believe it or not I didn't know they made a longer model for the pickup until after I installed mine. I actually had to reverse the handle so it would clear the bench seat....
now thats real cold.
I dont know right off what one weighes,but it is kind heavy with 2 people lifting by hand.
I am scraping the hurst crapola shifter on mine,been notheing but a headache trying to get it to shift right.
I have been using the colum shifter in everything mopar for yrs so I know how it works and can shift it myself. mechanical linkage is the way I should have set it up in the first place and that 200 bux would have been beetr used esle where.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 01/22/13 05:14 PM
It should be interesting as when I shifted it to move it back and forth in the garage it didn't want to go unless I played with the shifter. I wonder if Hurst is aware of these problems and maybe have a different length lever?
Mike, I was going to call up a few friends; but at -15 degrees they might not be my friends anymore. Hooked up some small tie-down straps to the stake pockets and used my engine cherry picker to off load it from the trailer. I plan on setting it on the truck in the next 2 days. I lifted one end and I think it would be a breeze with 4 people.
I have done it with straps and cherry picker/swing set
I agree 4 people are ideal to lift it.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/20/13 05:23 AM
Installed the bed, fuel cell, plumbed the fuel lines, installed a trans cooler and replaced the rusted wheels/worn out tires with a set of US Wheels chrome 8 spokes and 225/75/15 wrangler front tires. Will probably install a set of 265/70/15s on the rear to at least drive it until I tub it with 315/60/15s ET streets. A little at a time as the CC is burning. LOL
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/20/13 05:35 AM
Fuel cell
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/20/13 05:36 AM
Another view
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/20/13 05:37 AM
Front wheels/tires
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 03/20/13 05:39 AM
trans cooler
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 11/20/13 12:39 AM
An update on the junkyard truck; with the help of quickd100 completed the 3" exhaust and welded a bung in for the LM-1 test equipment. Installed the rust free bed and installed the rear step bumper. Was a bear to start with the Demon 850 (no choke) so I ditched that and bought an 800 Edelbrock AVS and tuned it with the aid of quickd100's LM-1 meter and software. It starts and runs a lot better with the new carb. Took it to an alignment shop where they aligned the front end; thanks to 1E2C selling me some new upper A arms with ball joints. It goes down the road as straight as an arrow, except when you get a little crazy with the throttle. I have been stopped and people ask me what the H*** do you have in that thing? So I have enjoying it just driving it as-is for a while as it turns a few eyes at the stoplights. An old man in a beet up truck LOL
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 11/20/13 12:41 AM
Underside pix
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 11/20/13 12:42 AM
one more
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: Junkyard D150 Progress - 11/20/13 12:44 AM
I hate bodywork so I will try and get someone to do the work and paint it sometime.