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Pitman arm source?

Posted By: SomeCarGuy

Pitman arm source? - 04/14/18 02:14 PM

Not seeing any listed for the 70s trucks. 77 d150

Rebuild kit?
Posted By: larrymopar360

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/14/18 06:52 PM

If someone can chime in with a part number that will help the search. I see NOS ones pop up sometimes.
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/14/18 07:04 PM

Not sure if this will help, I'm assuming your looking for Power steering App ?
Manual steering I believe is 3492213.
Posted By: SomeCarGuy

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/15/18 12:02 AM

Power

Factory 440 truck

I did see some stuff that made me think it could be engine specific. Can’t remember what right off.
Posted By: larrymopar360

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/15/18 08:50 PM

Why doesn't someone make them. I checked LMC truck and I see they have idler, and pretty much everything but pitman.

It will be a big help if we can just get part number.
Posted By: SomeCarGuy

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/17/18 05:47 AM

After some calling around I ended up with Rare Parts.

They couldn’t find a part number and said I’d need to send one for copying. I asked and several people today including rare parts said only one steering box is listed and there isn’t a reason to believe it’s engine application specific.

So two problems remain, one I need a pitman to send. Two, I need to be willing to part with “at least” 300 bucks. Possibly more once they give it a go.

I’m only guessing mine is worn out. The box pours and I thought I’d just knock this out while doing the repair so things will be golden.

I’d go a hundred for sure if we can get a group going. We all should need one down the line and this project helps us all out. The steering box is for 77-79, so it’s safe to say this is only a three year part, maybe somebody can sort out if it covers more or not.
Posted By: larrymopar360

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/17/18 06:11 PM

If this includes 4WD I will go $100 but it has to be guaranteed to cover 4WD too.
Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/17/18 10:42 PM

PITMAN ARM?

what wears out on a solid piece of steel? the conical hole for the draglink tapered end? splines on the sector shaft hole?

2x idler arm/center link/tie rods/BJ wear out

4x4 the drag link/tie rods/BJ wear out...the steer arm & pitman arm are solid steel

only time I have saw a difference was 2x or 4x4 and power or manual steer

not counting the pitman arm/steer arm for 4x4 lift kits.

you can check with them for replacements or lift arms if in need. skyjacker/rough country/JC Whitney
Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/17/18 10:45 PM

I converted a couple dodge drag links over to chebby adjustable draglinks and used chebby lift steer arms/springs/8 lug hubs/knuckles/spindles for lifting 4x4s running 40s or bigger tires.
Posted By: SomeCarGuy

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/17/18 11:20 PM

That’s great news. I assumed they had a wear part like the cars have and might as well knock out now. Not one person thought it was odd to ask. Thanks.
Posted By: 5thAve

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/18/18 03:17 AM

On the big GMs it was the drag link and idler arm that were replaceable so guessing that's why you can't find pitman arm? I would have thought anyway that if it was a part that needed to be replaced it wouldn't be this hard to find. But I've never had to replace one.
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/18/18 12:26 PM

I've seen a few Pitman arms wore out from the drag link not being tightened properly.
Posted By: BIGGERED

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/20/18 11:06 PM

Originally Posted By larrymopar360
If someone can chime in with a part number that will help the search. I see NOS ones pop up sometimes.


My 74-77 DT Parts manual shows a illustration of steering components for D100-200-300 with the following notation.

Parts Indicated by name only - order by description

The pitman arm does reference 19-27-2

I will dig deeper.

Red
Posted By: BIGGERED

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/20/18 11:21 PM

Originally Posted By SomeCarGuy
Not seeing any listed for the 70s trucks. 77 d150

Rebuild kit?


Check your pm

Red
Posted By: BIGGERED

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/20/18 11:27 PM

OK I found it

74-77 D100-200-300

Arm, Steering Gear

3492214 Power

3492213 Manual

I cannot guarantee the accuracy of this info, it's only what I read in the manual.

Note initially I thought you might have a hard time finding this but they are on eBay aplenty and may have been used thru 1993, you may be able to buy one from Ma?

Red
Posted By: larrymopar360

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/21/18 07:06 AM

Seems strange if it does indeed stop at '77 and not thru at least '80

I guess W150 would be different due to lift?
Posted By: ruderunner

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/21/18 01:26 PM

Mopar made almost yearly changes to truck steering in the late 70's. Most notably the mounting of the box for 4wd. Also steering column changes mainly the coupler.

That said pitman arm are non wear items. Differences are manual v power, 2v4 wd, early or late 4wd.

Having not dabbled much with 2wd trucks I wouldn't rule out a steering redesign in the late 70's that would require a different arm.

All in all though it shouldn't be hard to find a good used or nos part once you nail down a part number.
Posted By: BIGGERED

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/21/18 02:00 PM

Originally Posted By larrymopar360
Seems strange if it does indeed stop at '77 and not thru at least '80

I guess W150 would be different due to lift?


Actually my books cover 74-77, 78-81 and 82-83

They all list the same steering arms for 2WD.

I think for 2WD they used the same arm through 1993 but I do not have the later books just some random compatibility charts on the net.

My 2 cents.

Red
Posted By: BIGGERED

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/21/18 02:08 PM

Originally Posted By ruderunner


That said pitman arm are non wear items.


All in all though it shouldn't be hard to find a good used or nos part once you nail down a part number.


A lot can happen the a steering arm over the years. Beaten to death during a steering box swap etc.

I listed the parts number above.

Red
Posted By: bboogieart

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/22/18 02:23 AM

Originally Posted By BIGGERED
Originally Posted By larrymopar360
Seems strange if it does indeed stop at '77 and not thru at least '80

I guess W150 would be different due to lift?


Actually my books cover 74-77, 78-81 and 82-83

They all list the same steering arms for 2WD.

I think for 2WD they used the same arm through 1993 but I do not have the later books just some random compatibility charts on the net.

My 2 cents.

Red


Doesn't W150 mean 4 wheel drive?
Posted By: BIGGERED

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/22/18 12:33 PM

Original poster was asking about 2wd

Red
Posted By: larrymopar360

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/22/18 08:24 PM

Originally Posted By bboogieart
Originally Posted By BIGGERED
Originally Posted By larrymopar360
Seems strange if it does indeed stop at '77 and not thru at least '80

I guess W150 would be different due to lift?


Actually my books cover 74-77, 78-81 and 82-83

They all list the same steering arms for 2WD.

I think for 2WD they used the same arm through 1993 but I do not have the later books just some random compatibility charts on the net.

My 2 cents.

Red


Doesn't W150 mean 4 wheel drive?
Yes as BIGGERED wrote original poster has D150 2WD but I'm looking for my W150 4WD also.
Posted By: BIGGERED

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/22/18 11:44 PM

I'll look up the 4WD part numbers soon.
Posted By: BIGGERED

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/23/18 12:16 AM

1974. w100,thru w300 3496356 Power

1975-77 w100,thru w300 3821046 Power



The two below cover 3500-3850-4000# axles?

1974. W100 thru w200 3496354 manual

1975-1977 w100,thru w200 3820034 manual


1978-81 aw-w1-2-3-4 4088044 manual

1978-81 aw-w1-2-3-4 4088045 power

If you need 82-83 that manual is out in my shop

Red
Posted By: larrymopar360

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/23/18 02:09 AM

Thanks BIGGERED for additional numbers.

If you have time and see number for 1979 W150 I would greatly appreciate that one.

Or is it the aw one? 4088045? I am little uncertain.
Posted By: BIGGERED

Re: Pitman arm source? - 04/23/18 02:38 AM

Originally Posted By larrymopar360
Thanks BIGGERED for additional numbers.

If you have time and see number for 1979 W150 I would greatly appreciate that one.

Or is it the aw one? 4088045? I am little uncertain.


AW1 ramcharger

W1 100/150

They are the same

Red
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