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5lug D60 in a Ramcharger??

Posted By: 76dodgeboy

5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/12/14 02:52 AM

Did Mexico put D60s in the rear of their RC's. Have a guy saying they did but I'd never heard that?
Anyone Verify this option? Or is he
Posted By: RODHALL

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 01:36 AM

the only thing I have ever seen have a 5lug dana 60 in was a mid 60's ford half ton truck...
Posted By: Cooter

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 03:51 AM

Negative.

D44

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Posted By: Cooter

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 03:53 AM

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the only thing I have ever seen have a 5lug dana 60 in was a mid 60's ford half ton truck...


The D60-2 is a 5 on 5 1/2" D60 that came under early '70s Jeep J series trucks. I have a couple; 35 spline, semi float axles.
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 05:22 AM

I'm not referring to that Body style. Boxy Body Style. Also only referring to the Rear axle.
Posted By: Cooter

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 06:19 AM

We've already been down this road, Harry.

D60-2 IS a rear axle. Just as I told you last time.
Posted By: BulletBob

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 06:51 AM

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the only thing I have ever seen have a 5lug dana 60 in was a mid 60's ford half ton truck...



those & Jeep & I think International pickups too

All had 5 X 5 1/2
Posted By: savoy64

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 07:00 AM

that has a 9.25 in it----the rear cover looks a little like a dana 60 cover----i saw that green ramcharger on craigs---did you get it?
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 09:11 AM

9.25cover Doesn't look like a D60 cover.
Don't know What road your talking about. I know ford and jeep had them Years ago. Has Nothing to do with what I'm asking.
Posted By: Polarapete

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 09:26 AM

I have one of those 5 lug Dana 60-2 in my shop right now. It came out of a Jeep Gladiator truck. I built it for my '87 D100. I cut one tube 6" and the corresponding axle 6" and had it resplined (stock 35 spline!) and reassembled with all stock parts (12" drum brakes) and it will virtually bolt into my truck. With 16" wheels @ 5 on 5.5" bolt circle I could put it into a Duster (A-body width)

They (Jeep Gladiators) are not that rare...there is one being used as a sign board at a tire shop on Meridian and another for sale 1/2 mile south on the other side of the highway.
Posted By: savoy64

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 04:43 PM

you see that picture of the green ramcharger---that is a mexican ramcharger and it has a 9.25-----and plenty of guys mistake the 9.25 for a dana 60----
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 06:49 PM

Did you see I posted NOT That Body style. They also had 81-93 Body style In mexico. As I already said that is what he claims had a D60. They ran the 81-93 Body Style in Mexico for at least 3 more Years before changing to the Body style of the green one above
Posted By: savoy64

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 08:57 PM

sure i saw that---your friend the claimant has obviously made a mistake on the ID of that axle----let us know when you actually see it and we can all have a laugh----until then we can all just sit around thinking abstract thoughts wondering if they are true----on the flip side once i found an 8.75 under a volare and it started a huge arguement---the reality was someone put it there so that the volare was once again useful---at my house you can find a dana 60 under my 64 and a 9.25 under another 64--along with a narrowed 9.25 under a hudson---i have put 3/4 ton axles under a ramcharger because it amused me---now i am doing cummins conversions on vehicles that didnt originally have them------you strike me a really bright guy that is saddled with a friend that mistook at stock ramcharger 9.25 for a dana 60----a common thing as i mentioned before.....
Posted By: 77ProStreet

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/13/14 09:52 PM

Hey Dodgeboy, Don't be an A-Hole! In your original post you made NO reference to what body style you were asking about. Guys are just posting what they have seen. I've seen you post facts about Dodge trucks too that you've pulled out of your A$$. All I'm saying is you don't have to be such a JERK on this forum.
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/14/14 08:03 AM

Yeah ok.
What Facts are these? What I post I've heard On here and from friend who Know Dodge trucks. If I'm Wrong I admit it.
After the "Newer" body style RC was posted I specified not that one. I came here because most on here aren't Tools.
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/14/14 08:47 AM

Either way. I wasn't truing to be an Azz. If anyone took it that way. I do apologize.
I found the pics he posted so here they are. My guess is its a 91-95/96. Don't recall when they stopped this body but the headlights say Plastic Grill.

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Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/14/14 08:48 AM

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Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/14/14 08:49 AM

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Posted By: SuperStockWagon

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/16/14 07:44 AM

Quote:

Either way. I wasn't truing to be an Azz. If anyone took it that way. I do apologize.
I found the pics he posted so here they are. My guess is its a 91-95/96. Don't recall when they stopped this body but the headlights say Plastic Grill.




Sure looks like a D60 to me! Late 80's to 93..First one I've ever seen in that series of truck,5x5.5 bolt pattern? I was going to build one for my 90 150 2wd to replace the 9.25
Posted By: Soopernaut

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/16/14 10:04 PM

Are you sure that isn't a Dana 44?
Posted By: hp383

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/16/14 11:33 PM

That Ramcharger could be a Mexican sold 81 to 95. The truck was in Mexico, they produced Ramchargers for sale in Mexico through 95 using what we (in the USA) consider 81-93 sheet metal.

From the paint and headlight positions, it looks to be a 91 to 95 produced.
Posted By: I_bleed_MOPAR

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/17/14 12:53 AM

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Are you sure that isn't a Dana 44?






44 and 60 covers are very similar in appearance. Physical inspection would be needed to tell which it has.


Tim
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/17/14 06:38 AM

He said D60. I've never heard of a 44 in the rear either though. Hard to say if its factory too.
Yes its 5.5" bolt pattern.
Posted By: Mr. Smurf

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/17/14 07:01 AM

From the looks of the line routing, I would say factory....

As a mechanical designer, I can tell you, car companies do very different things for vehicles sold outside the USA.

Ed
Posted By: Soopernaut

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/17/14 08:43 PM

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He said D60. I've never heard of a 44 in the rear either though. Hard to say if its factory too.
Yes its 5.5" bolt pattern.




I did read a Mexican brochure for a late 60s or early-70s Sweptline era truck. It said Dana 44 for the rear axle so I know they used the Dana 44 from the factory then. I still think that one might be a 44 and not a 60.
Posted By: RODHALL

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/18/14 05:20 AM

if it is a 60 That be a transplant.... NO Tone ring = 60's to mid 80's....

ME - it is a Dana 44....
Posted By: Polarapete

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/18/14 09:36 AM

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I know very well what Dana 60s look like and what the 9.25s look like, but I have never seen one with a notch that captures the PS E-Brake cable like the one in that picture. The picture that I have submitted is of the Dana 60-2 in my shop and except for the raised numbers "60-2" cast in the top of the case there is no notch. The only way to really prove anything is to get the BOM numbers off the back of the PS side axle tube and go to the Dana/Spicer books for application. Until someone does that we are all just spinning our wheels

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Posted By: I_bleed_MOPAR

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/18/14 10:43 PM

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... The only way to really prove anything is to get the BOM numbers off the back of the PS side axle tube and go to the Dana/Spicer books for application. Until someone does that we are all just spinning our wheels




Or pull the cover and measure the ring gear.


Tim
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/19/14 09:02 AM

Ill see if he can get more info on it. Thanks to All who posted Trying to help.
Posted By: SuperStockWagon

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/20/14 05:32 AM

Strange looking front center housing for sure(parking brake cable catch).
Measure it from the inside edge of the shock to the outer edge of the diff cover on each side..looking at the construction of the center section and size of axle tubes..looks to big to be a 44..I would bet money its a D60.

A question was asked about the strength diff between a 9.25 and a D60 over at RCC,and here was the first response..

" Which D60, the common full floating version or the Mexican DM semi floating D60?"
Posted By: Cooter

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/21/14 01:03 PM

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you see that picture of the green ramcharger---that is a mexican ramcharger and it has a 9.25-----and plenty of guys mistake the 9.25 for a dana 60----


Actually, it has a D44 under the rear. I've spent enough time under it to know.
Posted By: Cooter

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/21/14 01:12 PM

As for the photos, I am having a difficult time telling the difference only seeing half of it. A simple measurement across the cover will tell the tale. Dana made some really odd axles, including a D60=2 for industrial use that was popping up on eBay a few years back with a centered diff and high 5 series gears. Guy had stacks of them, all brand new. A lot of Jeep guys bought them.


~EDIT~

Here is one of the eBay D60-2 housings.

RCC has quite a bit of chatter about "Fabled Mexican RC D60s, it appears. It it does exist, it would be a good match for my 2wd '88 RC...



Posted By: Polarapete

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/22/14 10:19 PM

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As for the photos, I am having a difficult time telling the difference only seeing half of it. A simple measurement across the cover will tell the tale. Dana made some really odd axles, including a D60=2 for industrial use that was popping up on eBay a few years back with a centered diff and high 5 series gears. Guy had stacks of them, all brand new. A lot of Jeep guys bought them.


~EDIT~

Here is one of the eBay D60-2 housings.

RCC has quite a bit of chatter about "Fabled Mexican RC D60s, it appears. It it does exist, it would be a good match for my 2wd '88 RC...


And that is exactly why I built my Dana 60-2 for my '87 D100...my '86 2wd Ramcharger has a Dana 60 with the 3.125" axle tubes from a '74 D200 and all the other aftermarket stuff for drag racing. The Dana 60-2 came to me stock with 35 spline axles, PowerLock carrier, 4.10 gears, 12" drum brakes, Set 7 tapered wheel bearings (no PS adjuster) and a 5 on 5.5" bolt pattern. All the bearings were new, the brakes were fresh and I gave $400.00 for it in 2010.

BTW all the 60s I have seen have the number 60 cast in the lower right web in the case next to the cover plate. No need to measure anything.




Posted By: Cooter

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 11/23/14 07:27 AM

You haven't looked at nearly enough, then. Because they don't all have it.
Posted By: savoy64

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 04/18/15 11:34 PM

apologies to 76dodgeboy----i just brought home a 2000 mexican ramcharger---it does indeed have a dana 60 rear with the 5 on 5.5 lugs and spicer is stamped across the back of the cover with 1 inch tall characters--and the provision for a pinion snubber on the casting....
Posted By: Cooter

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 04/19/15 12:53 AM

We

Need

Pix!
Posted By: savoy64

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 04/19/15 01:25 AM

i tried to post pictures but there is no browse here like before---i am old and operate on a flip phone....
Posted By: Cooter

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 04/19/15 05:01 AM

If you send them to me, I'll post them. Which one was it, BTW?

cj6cj8 AT gmail d0t c0m
Posted By: dodgedon

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 04/19/15 06:09 AM

The "browse" option is below your "post" box when you are replying. It says "post options" and to the right "File Manager" Click on File manager and the browse option pops up.
Posted By: 77ProStreet

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 04/19/15 06:43 AM

Yeah, it's way easier to post pictures now.
Posted By: MachoMan

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 04/19/15 02:34 PM

I've had 2 experiences of a rear D60 in RC's. Both were 75 and 440's.
2 different people but never did receive any proof ie: pics or equipment label.
Posted By: dezduster

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 04/19/15 05:41 PM

Intetnational 1110 caryalls and trucks1110 have the perfect width dana60 axle 5 on 5.5 lug for 72 up trucks and ramchargers . My brother has one under his R/C just need to move spring peerches and they fit like factory. Had one under my w150 years ago when i bent the housing I gave him the 35 spline dutchman axles and Detroit locker for 400 bucks. Still going strong behind his 520 ci big block. He is in the process of making a chevy dana 60 front axle 5 on 5.5 with a detroit for the front.
Posted By: savoy64

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 04/19/15 07:16 PM

picture of car---no picture of both feet in mouth---the diff is a dana 44 HD--the case casting is about as large as a dana 60----the 44 is cast on an upper web on the front---i have never seen one of these....bob

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Posted By: Cooter

Re: 5lug D60 in a Ramcharger?? - 04/20/15 02:50 AM

Yeah, they are a little funky. But the cover is still D44 size.
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