2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy??

Posted By: E-Ticket

2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 01:20 AM

Anyone driving an early 80's Charger, Omni or Rampage with a 2.2 with an automatic?? If so....what kind of fuel economy are you getting?

Thanks!!!

Posted By: BeEtLeJuIcE !

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 01:21 AM

R U considering buying one with a AT ?

Posted By: CTD5.9

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 01:53 AM

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/1985_Dodge_Charger.shtml

has the fuel economy ratings. I got about 17-19 with my 85 Charger, but I was in highschool and really didn't treat it that well. the economy got worse when we swapped the 2.2 turbo out of my mom's wrecked shadow into it but the fun factor went up a fair bit.

Posted By: BeEtLeJuIcE !

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 02:21 AM

17-19 ?

.... did you have a hole in yurr gas tank ? ... I had a TC3 2dr ... 1.7 stick shift ... I never got less than high 20's city ....and nearly 50 on the hwy. My Xwife had a 024 with a 2.2 and a stick ... she got in the low 30's ....

FIND a stick if possible. ALSO there can be major probs with the AT's back in those years.

Posted By: poorboy

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 02:42 AM

You must have missed the part where he said he was between 17 -19 years old at the time? How many 17 year old kids really drive for gas mileage? (I'm 57 and still don't drive for gas mileage.)

I never had a carb'ed 2.2, but the throttle body auto trans one I had was consistently in the 25-30 range, but I had my foot in it a lot. They were a bit underpowered by the standards we were used to at the time. We also got a very consistent 25-30 from our Turbo Lebaron GTs, (we had 4 of them, all went over 200,000 each) they had a lot more go, but again, we were not really concerned about fuel mileage.

The car we were most impressed with, as far as fuel mileage, was the 95 Intrepid (3.3 V6) that followed the last Lebaron, it was 30 mpg always, and it had power and room. We are pretty disappointed with the mileage we are getting from our turbo PT Cruiser, its in the 20-25 (on a good day). Gene

Posted By: BeEtLeJuIcE !

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 02:58 AM

P-boy ... me thimks you have POOR vision ... here is his quote .....

I got about 17-19 with my 85 Charger,

GET some NEW glasses ...

...

DON'T daily-drive for MPG (or fuel costs) ? ... must be nice to have a FREE gas-card.

Posted By: draginmopars

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 03:03 AM

We have had this Rampage so long,that have forgot when we got it
Was a perfect parts chaser

once the unibody gave up
put her on the track

haven't checked the mileage lately

Posted By: 135sohc

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 03:40 AM

mid 20's if your easy with it. The 3spd automatic is direct in 3rd and those early ones do not have a lockup TC. Carburetors on those things were garbage when they were rolling off the transport trucks. The non feedback version are somewhat better.

Fuel injection and a manual transmission really help the 2.2 with mileage.

I have a 4dr Shadow manual transmission (2.2 TBI) and I get around 27.5 in local stop-go driving. Ethanol polluted gasoline doesn't help anything.

Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 03:40 AM

Had this on the 'bag and thought I sold it last week, guess the high bidder flaked out.

I drove an 82 Rampage 2.2 4-speed for 2 years as my daily and I would have been lucky to get more than 20 mpg out of it. My soon-to-be daily driver is an 83 Scamp and as soon as the weather changes I will find out what the Scampage will get for mpg!

Posted By: E-Ticket

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 03:41 AM

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R U considering buying one with a AT ?

yes, considering a 2.2 with an automatic for a parts chaser/daily driver, etc.

Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 03:49 AM

My Scampage...

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Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 04:18 AM

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mid 20's if your easy with it. The 3spd automatic is direct in 3rd and those early ones do not have a lockup TC. Carburetors on those things were garbage when they were rolling off the transport trucks. The non feedback version are somewhat better.

Fuel injection and a manual transmission really help the 2.2 with mileage.

I have a 4dr Shadow manual transmission (2.2 TBI) and I get around 27.5 in local stop-go driving. Ethanol polluted gasoline doesn't help anything.

my throttle body 2.5 auto daytona would do low to mid 30s on the highway. my dad had an 83 rampage auto and his would do about 30. lousy feedback carbs, we swapped it out for a weber and it drove better. with the small tires and no lockup converters they do rev on the highway.

Posted By: E-Ticket

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 04:32 AM

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mid 20's if your easy with it. The 3spd automatic is direct in 3rd and those early ones do not have a lockup TC. Carburetors on those things were garbage when they were rolling off the transport trucks. The non feedback version are somewhat better.

Fuel injection and a manual transmission really help the 2.2 with mileage.

I have a 4dr Shadow manual transmission (2.2 TBI) and I get around 27.5 in local stop-go driving. Ethanol polluted gasoline doesn't help anything.

ok so if a person had an 82 2.2, automatic and wanted to change over to a fuel injection set up and manual transmission....what OEM style fuel injection do you guys advise using that is not a pain in the ass to work on or get parts for?

Posted By: BeEtLeJuIcE !

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 05:04 AM

That swap would be a PITA !! ... I would look for a mid/late 80's G body......2.2 and a FIVE speed.

Posted By: E-Ticket

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 05:11 AM

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That swap would be a PITA !! ... I pick up a mid-late 80's G body.

"G" Body??

Posted By: BeEtLeJuIcE !

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 05:12 AM

Daytona or Laser ... they are out there still.

Posted By: CTD5.9

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 06:37 AM

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I got about 17-19 with my 85 Charger, but I was in highschool and really didn't treat it that well

you both read correctly. I was 16-18 years old and getting 17-19 mpg. I would say a properly maintained vehicle that didn't have a teenager trying to make the tires spin at every intersection would get better mileage. That E-brake between the seats makes them really fun to drive though

Posted By: E-Ticket

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 07:22 AM

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Daytona or Laser ... they are out there still.

Thanks! Guess I never really paid any attention which body code those cars were?

So if I bought an 82 Rampage 2.2 with an automatic and got a little crazy and decided to change the drivetrain from a Daytona or Laser with a 2.2 and a 5-speed, it ought to get the little Page rockin' better than the original 2.2 and automatic and get better fuel economy??

Posted By: draginmopars

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 08:05 AM

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Daytona or Laser ... they are out there still.

Thanks! Guess I never really paid any attention which body code those cars were?

So if I bought an 82 Rampage 2.2 with an automatic and got a little crazy and decided to change the drivetrain from a Daytona or Laser with a 2.2 and a 5-speed, it ought to get the little Page rockin' better than the original 2.2 and automatic and get better fuel economy??

you WILL run into more problems
Rampage is a "L" body

for one, Daytona/laser axles to long
also auto to standard
The spline count is different

If you need 2.2/auto
I still have them
still got the 4 lug rims also

The Rampage ran well,
the unibody started to split

So, it's last trip was
to haul a 440/auto for a heart transplant
into the Rampage

Posted By: BeEtLeJuIcE !

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/20/14 10:23 AM

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Daytona or Laser ... they are out there still.

Thanks! Guess I never really paid any attention which body code those cars were?

So if I bought an 82 Rampage 2.2 with an automatic and got a little crazy and decided to change the drivetrain from a Daytona or Laser with a 2.2 and a 5-speed, it ought to get the little Page rockin' better than the original 2.2 and automatic and get better fuel economy??

As I said and so did dragon .... THIS is a swap that is complex. Just buy a Daytona or maybe even a Neon with a stick. BUTTT honestly ...I have my mind set on a 2 dr Omni or Horizon with a 1.7(VW engine) and a 4 speed stick with that GOOOOOD OD. I have put a wanted ad here and other places for it without any luck so far.

There are HUGE real-world mpg potentials with that combo.

Posted By: tmef

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/21/14 04:47 AM

I get 24 mpg with my 84 5 speed Rampage. Stock except for Weber carb and a 525 transmission. Take into consideration I rarely drive the car over 10 miles at one time. 8 miles to work, 8 miles home. It goes up a bunch if I take a roadtrip.

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Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/21/14 06:19 AM

I am in the midst of looking for a carb for my Scamp, what is the best one to use? I see people using Weber's, what model?

Posted By: E-Ticket

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/21/14 06:23 AM

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I get 24 mpg with my 84 5 speed Rampage. Stock except for Weber carb and a 525 transmission. Take into consideration I rarely drive the car over 10 miles at one time. 8 miles to work, 8 miles home. It goes up a bunch if I take a roadtrip.

Nice looking truck!!

That's pretty much my deal now....I drive 13 miles to work and 13 back and at the moment I do not have anything economical to drive so I am driving my V10 dually until I get my 2010 Challenger nose put back on and or I buy this Rampage I am thinking about....... I'm burning about 2-3 gallons of gas on a daily basis and at $3.00 + per gallon, its costing me about $10.00 per day for that short trip where as the Rampage would most likely knock about $6.00 per day off of my fuel bill.

If I had something else to drive right now, I would probably only drive the dually once every week or two just to keep the fluids circulating.....

Posted By: E-Ticket

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/21/14 06:26 AM

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I am in the midst of looking for a carb for my Scamp, what is the best one to use? I see people using Weber's, what model?

I keep seeing ad descriptions where people are using Weber's also but like you said...."what model"??

Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/21/14 06:37 AM

I ASSume that this the carb, it is for an 84?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MITSUBISHI-DODGE...5d4&vxp=mtr

Here is one for an 83.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MITSUBISHI-DODGE...5d4&vxp=mtr

Posted By: poorboy

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/21/14 06:40 AM

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P-boy ... me thimks you have POOR vision ... here is his quote .....

I got about 17-19 with my 85 Charger,

GET some NEW glasses ... ...

DON'T daily-drive for MPG (or fuel costs) ? ... must be nice to have a FREE gas-card.

I believe I read that he was "still in high school". I probably need new glasses, but it looks like you might need to stand in line behind me.

As far as the "free gas card", when a guy (like me) drives less then 5,000 miles a year, and nearly all of that is pleasure, the amount of gas I use doesn't amount to much, so a couple extra (or fewer) mpg isn't going to break the bank. My coupe gets around 17 mpg and that is having a lot of fun, if I work really hard, I might get it up to 20 mpg, but it would be a lot less fun. My last hot rod got 8mpg, I can see the difference between 8 and 17, and that mattered, but between 17 & 20 when we are talking 3,000 miles a year isn't worth the reduction of my fun. When I used to drive 20,000 miles a year it was a different story, but then gas was in the $1.00/gal range. Gene

Posted By: E-Ticket

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/21/14 06:41 AM

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I ASSume that this the carb?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MITSUBISHI-DODGE...5d4&vxp=mtr

Could be but certainly what ever "tmef" is using, apparently seems to be working well for him??

Posted By: 135sohc

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/21/14 07:13 PM

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mid 20's if your easy with it. The 3spd automatic is direct in 3rd and those early ones do not have a lockup TC. Carburetors on those things were garbage when they were rolling off the transport trucks. The non feedback version are somewhat better.

Fuel injection and a manual transmission really help the 2.2 with mileage.

I have a 4dr Shadow manual transmission (2.2 TBI) and I get around 27.5 in local stop-go driving. Ethanol polluted gasoline doesn't help anything.

my throttle body 2.5 auto daytona would do low to mid 30s on the highway. my dad had an 83 rampage auto and his would do about 30. lousy feedback carbs, we swapped it out for a weber and it drove better. with the small tires and no lockup converters they do rev on the highway.

With the introduction of ethanol contaminated gasoline I have seen a consistent 10% decrease in miles per gallon vs pure gasoline. It also does not help that I still use the oem 14" tire size and have the 568 5spd with its higher final drive.

Open highway I can get low 30's but it is rare that I am going long distances anymore.

Posted By: tmef

Re: 2.2 Charger, Omni, Rampage, etc. Fuel Economy?? - 02/21/14 09:50 PM

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I am in the midst of looking for a carb for my Scamp, what is the best one to use? I see people using Weber's, what model?

A 32/36 DFEV, Part No. 22680.160 is what I have. Put it on straight out of the box. Runs good and idles great. It is nice to have the same, perfect idle every time you stop at a light.