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Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted

Posted By: 1964Polara

Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/14/13 08:18 AM

I want to let fabricate an HD Front Anti Sway for my 1979 D150.
Bushings etc. will I use universal stuff/make my own...wanna go ~1.5 inch diameter
I would need a detailed drawing with measures.
Any idea how to get?
Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/16/13 07:43 PM

I have a complete swaybar set op on the bench,i can post pics if you want.

then you can tell me where to pull the measurments from end to end.

let me know if that would help out.
Posted By: 72d100

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/16/13 07:53 PM

i like his idea.
Posted By: 1964Polara

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/16/13 08:08 PM

You make my Day........

Straight wide/length in the middle, each Arm length and angle would be Great
Plus some photos...
Many Thanx in advance
Posted By: QuickDodge

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/16/13 09:27 PM

The front sway bars I've seen attach to the strut rods. I've read that some of the very early 1970's sway bars attached directly to the control arm. (Not sure if this is correct?) I've never seen one attached directly to the control arm.

If a guy want's to run a 1.5" sway bar, it would probably be best to attach it directly to the control arm. Such a large sway bar pulling on the much smaller strut rods would probably cause the strut rods to flex and possibly bend.

The vans used the same or similar control arms as the trucks and attached the sway bar directly to the control arm. It may be possible to modify the van's sway bar mounting and make it work on a truck.
Posted By: VL21

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/17/13 12:50 AM


Factory bar is about 24 mm, that will be a major increase ...

I was eyeballing some other set ups at the u pull, some Ford vans have a pretty good size bar, and was looking at the way they (and GM trucks) attach to the lower arm, but at present the truck needs other stuff sooner ...
Posted By: magnum440d100

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/17/13 02:49 AM

Quote:

The front sway bars I've seen attach to the strut rods. I've read that some of the very early 1970's sway bars attached directly to the control arm. (Not sure if this is correct?) I've never seen one attached directly to the control arm.

If a guy want's to run a 1.5" sway bar, it would probably be best to attach it directly to the control arm. Such a large sway bar pulling on the much smaller strut rods would probably cause the strut rods to flex and possibly bend.

The vans used the same or similar control arms as the trucks and attached the sway bar directly to the control arm. It may be possible to modify the van's sway bar mounting and make it work on a truck.




My 72, I put on a 72 only sway bar. It bolts to the control arm under the bump stop. Yes the bump stop is different from a non sway bar truck.

The factory sway bar is more than adequate. It was a HUGE improvement to my truck.
Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/17/13 12:03 PM

Quote:

You make my Day........

Straight wide/length in the middle, each Arm length and angle would be Great
Plus some photos...
Many Thanx in advance




the big bar with splines on the end with alum arms like used on sprint cars/race cars/monster trucks could fit the bill here also.

basic square shape, 2 mounts at the frame, 2 alum arms(vary in length) attaches to the LCA or with end links,can even add pre-load to the chassis with them.

very light weight,large spring rates,very simple to adapt to any chassis.
Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/19/13 03:39 AM

here is a couple pics of a 1/2 ton D-150 swaybar.

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Posted By: VL21

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/19/13 04:03 AM

I got one from a 92-93 D250, pretty much looks just the same except the links for the strut rod are made different than yours.
On mine the same bushing will work in both locations.
Did a little searching and found Moog problem solver bushings, poly instead of rubber, will interchange, and are much cheaper ...

I got two sets of K3170, IIRC they were $8.20 each set. Shipped, ebay.
K3170 is two bushings. lots cheaper than the pretty red ones, these are blue.

That is 24 mm, other sizes may be K3171, 3172, etc, not sure.
AC/Delco cross references them, are black, and also poly, but I get the idea perhaps softer? I can' tell.
Local parts house had the AC Delco, so got them to try.
Posted By: 1964Polara

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/19/13 08:38 AM

Many thanx scratchin!!!!

It seems they attach the Sway bar to the Strut rods?
I got the truck lowered so I got anyhow the Van LCA's.
Don't they have holes to mount the Sway Bar direct to the LCA with/without Sway Bar End links?

I like the idea more to attach the sway bar to the LCA's....

What do you guys think?
Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 06/19/13 01:09 PM

72 truck was the only yr to have the bar bolt to the LCA.

all other dodge truck I have seen with a bar hook to the strut rods.

I have a set of the wider pocketed LCAs from a 1 ton truck, the sway bar for it is a little thicker and bent a little more on the ends to relocate the end links to hook to strut rods.(the 1/2 bar hits LCA but it could be nothed/braced to allow it to fit without hitting.)

IMHO,works just as goodhooke to strut rod, it sure firmed up the front of my truck..but I added the steering box frame support bracket at the same time.

340 shorty swaped a rear sway bar from a r/t dakota that bolt right onto the D model truck.
Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Front Sway Bar Detailed Drawing wanted - 07/09/13 03:04 AM

here are some pics of a sprint car/monster truck swaybar set up.

big splined bar with splined clamp on arms. just need end links to fit.

these are some LOONNGGG end links on this truck but it works rather well and the big KING shocks give a soft ride. the sway bar does a good job controling the body roll while in action.

hope these pics give you a better idea of what I was talking about.



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