Posted By: 72d100
throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/03/13 08:29 PM
besides needing the edelebrock adapter what linkage do i need for this
throttle/kickdown bracket
Posted By: 340SHORTY
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/03/13 09:51 PM
a better carb 
Posted By: RapidusMaximus
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/03/13 10:50 PM
Trash all of it and go with the Lokar cable system. Its too easy and gets rid of all of that stuff.
Posted By: Hugh Jorgan
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/03/13 11:06 PM
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besides needing the edelebrock adapter what linkage do i need for this
Tough crowd. Good thing you're not asking about your dog...they would be telling you to take it out back and shoot it in the head.
Looks like all you need is the stud that bolts onto the carb linkage. I have the same setup on my truck and it runs fine.
Posted By: 135sohc
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/03/13 11:13 PM
I went with the setup from BPE. Not terribly impressed with the installation and it required a fair amount of modifications but it does appear to work (havnt had a chance to test drive the van yet).
Posted By: basketcase
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 12:15 AM
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Looks like all you need is the stud that bolts onto the carb linkage. I have the same setup on my truck and it runs fine.
that's what my '87 has, works fine.
Posted By: RapidusMaximus
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 12:28 AM
I have a 2" spacer under my carb and trying to make the throttle and kick down linkage work properly was driving me nuts so I trashed it all and went to the Lokar setup...works great...didn't know how to answer the op's question so I went with the next best thing... 
Posted By: 72d100
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 01:28 AM
all so confusing, so do i shoot my dog or not lol
Posted By: 72d100
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 02:08 AM
maybe something like this would work for now? gfrservb
Posted By: BulletBob
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 02:19 AM
This works great
Takes out all the guess work & doesn't rely on hoping that you drilled the hole in the arm in the right place for the Lokar to work correctly
Uses parts that you can buy at Dodge or a parts store if the cable breaks
Takes out all the guess work & doesn't rely on hoping that you drilled the hole in the arm in the right place for the Lokar to work correctly
Uses parts that you can buy at Dodge or a parts store if the cable breaks
Posted By: shortbed88
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 03:28 AM
not to hijack this thread but....what type of replacement cable does that factory setup use? I have one for a Dodge van and the thing is about 6 feet long. I need to get this figured out so I can install my a518. 
Posted By: hp383
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 04:59 AM
I would take the factory linkage over the crappy Lokar any day!
I have a Lokar cable in my swap meet bucket I took off my Ramcharger. Not able to locate a factory linkage I went with the BPE throttle plate and factory type cable for the 518 trans swap.
I have a Lokar cable in my swap meet bucket I took off my Ramcharger. Not able to locate a factory linkage I went with the BPE throttle plate and factory type cable for the 518 trans swap.
Posted By: scratchnfotraction
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 01:25 PM
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besides needing the edelebrock adapter what linkage do i need for this
Tough crowd. Good thing you're not asking about your dog...they would be telling you to take it out back and shoot it in the head.
Looks like all you need is the stud that bolts onto the carb linkage. I have the same setup on my truck and it runs fine.
Posted By: scratchnfotraction
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 01:27 PM
here it is on a tall rpm intake. I did riase the throttle cable clamp so the cable was level with the stud since this pic.(and they said stock linkage wont work on the RPM intake...)
stock 78-440 truck 3-piece linkage
just swaped a 3-piece set up over to the 85 318/727 replacing the 1 piece set up. it is off a mid 80s SB 4-v dippy. much more adjustability with the 3 piece.
if you need the tall intake bracket for the B-engine,AREngineering has them.
Posted By: scratchnfotraction
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 01:35 PM
I could never shoot this guy.
RIP Dutch
Posted By: 77ProStreet
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 04:18 PM
Check out AR Engineering, one of the sponsors for Moparts. Looks like they have nice stuff, and many options.
Posted By: 72d100
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/04/13 05:28 PM
Quote:scratch it looks like we have the same setup, it your throttle cable goig at an angle to the carb. mine might as well be in the back of the carb
here it is on a tall rpm intake. I did riase the throttle cable clamp so the cable was level with the stud since this pic.(and they said stock linkage wont work on the RPM intake...)
stock 78-440 truck 3-piece linkage
just swaped a 3-piece set up over to the 85 318/727 replacing the 1 piece set up. it is off a mid 80s SB 4-v dippy. much more adjustability with the 3 piece.
if you need the tall intake bracket for the B-engine,AREngineering has them.
Posted By: redraptor
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/05/13 12:16 AM
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I could never shoot this guy.
RIP Dutch
Dutch looked like a cute guy. Having a throttle bracket from a cruise control vehicle can help with the hi-rise intake.
Posted By: Waveraider
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/05/13 01:36 AM
I have the Bouchillon cable kit and it works great! Took maybe a little more than an hour to install without any help. Looked at the Lokar, but spent the extra money.
Posted By: BulletBob
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/05/13 01:58 AM
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not to hijack this thread but....what type of replacement cable does that factory setup use? I have one for a Dodge van and the thing is about 6 feet long. I need to get this figured out so I can install my a518.
91 Dodge van is what I used when I built my 1st one from scratch
The Bouchillion kit uses the same cable it looks like
I compared them when I got my 1st Bouchillion
Posted By: scratchnfotraction
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/05/13 02:32 AM
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I could never shoot this guy.
RIP Dutch
Dutch looked like a cute guy. Having a throttle bracket from a cruise control vehicle can help with the hi-rise intake.
yea,he was one of the best.
the cruz control extention clamp is exactly what I used to raise mine with.
Posted By: 72d100
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/24/13 10:08 PM
i have another qustion. is the mancini kit the same as the bouchillion?
Posted By: 135sohc
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/25/13 05:37 PM
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i have another qustion. is the mancini kit the same as the bouchillion?
Yes, they just add their own prefix to the BPE part number.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/25/13 07:35 PM
I am using the Mancini tall bracket which puts the throttle cable on a more even plane with the carb lever.
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 04/25/13 07:36 PM
Bracket
Posted By: 72d100
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/02/13 01:48 AM
I ended up using the ar tall throttle bracket and it works almost perfect. yes i know my kickdown is upside down.will work even better when i put a carb spacer on it 
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/02/13 04:56 AM
Exactly as I am using a spacer too and it is good to go. Glad it worked out for you. I did; however install a longer linkage adjustment piece that allowed me to dial in the up and kickdown shift points.
Posted By: 72d100
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/02/13 05:09 AM
Quote:where did you get the longer adjustment piece?
Exactly as I am using a spacer too and it is good to go. Glad it worked out for you. I did; however install a longer linkage adjustment piece that allowed me to dial in the up and kickdown shift points.
Posted By: scratchnfotraction
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/02/13 01:16 PM
Quote:Quote:where did you get the longer adjustment piece?
Exactly as I am using a spacer too and it is good to go. Glad it worked out for you. I did; however install a longer linkage adjustment piece that allowed me to dial in the up and kickdown shift points.
yep,looks like I will be going with that bracket to ditch the hoky cruz control clamp I am using. close but cant get 100% full throttle with it.
where did you get the extention and would you post a pic of it on your carb/intake?
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/02/13 02:31 PM
I bought it off of EBAY I think the seller's handle was torqueflite patty. I looked on EBAY last night but couldn't find it but I'll look again. I'll run out and take a pix of my setup and post it this AM
Don't know if he is in business anymore but here is his info:
Pat Blais Transmissions
12050 15th Ave NE, Seattle, WA 98125
(206) 365-1966
Don't know if he is in business anymore but here is his info:
Pat Blais Transmissions
12050 15th Ave NE, Seattle, WA 98125
(206) 365-1966
Posted By: scratchnfotraction
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/02/13 02:57 PM
thank you, 
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/02/13 03:00 PM
Pix of the longer kickdown adjuster
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/02/13 03:02 PM
Side view of my setup
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/02/13 03:03 PM
One more
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/02/13 03:18 PM
Check this site out they still list the extension piece in 2 sizes
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/carbs_acc/access_throttle.shtml
Part# 8003 and 8004
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/carbs_acc/lb/8003.jpg
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/carbs_acc/access_throttle.shtml
Part# 8003 and 8004
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/carbs_acc/lb/8003.jpg
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/02/13 03:20 PM
I used the previous Edelbrock adjuster years ago when I swapped to a taller manifold. They just screw on to end of your adjustment rod then the adjuster screws on to it.
BTW, Summit Racing has both sizes in stock 1/4" and the 5/16" for $7.95
BTW, Summit Racing has both sizes in stock 1/4" and the 5/16" for $7.95
Posted By: old_goat
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/03/13 03:50 AM
That looks like an allthread union nut and a short stud in one end...about 75 cents at your local bolt store. I know fastenall carries the union nuts.....
Posted By: Hemi_Ram
Re: throttle/kickdown bracket - 05/03/13 06:02 AM
That would be great for that price