A pursuit

Many of you have probably seen this one but it's intense. Not meaning to start a controversial discussion on yay or nay on pursuits. We could fill pages of this on another thread. ASP has been very successful though on court cases involving pursuits. Anyway, here you go in case you haven't seen it. Also, the female trooper that has the lead until she crashes and arrives on scene after the crash is the largest female officer I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_W4UrZlrV8

Damn, shes a big women. I enjoy watch police pursuits, thanks for sharing.

While the pit was good with no major injuries, the speeds of that truck should have terminated the chase at many points.
Wonder what the offense was for chase?

BAD BOYS, BAD BOYS, WHAT'CA GONNA DO WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU ?.............
thanks for posting that Larry !

Fixed it for you......BIG GIRLS, BIG GIRLS, WHAT'CA GONNA DO WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU ?............. laugh2

Neither attempt to PIT the truck was really very good, they were more of a straight ram from the back. A good PIT hits the rear side behind the rear wheel and accelerates until the vehicle is out of control. There's a study from the Federal Law Enforcement Trailing Center that shows it's much harder to PIT a modern vehicle with Electronic Stability Control and requires more steering input, acceleration, and braking than with older vehicles. Also it notes that many manufacturers program the brake lights to come on when ESC is activated, even if the brake pedal isn't depressed. You can see this with the truck in the video.

If you watch On Patrol live or troll YouTube for dash-cam videos, you see that often, officers tap the rear 1/4 then brake instead of accelerating through, and ESC lets the fleeing driver regain control. In this case it looks like the officer got under the back of the truck and pushed until the driver lost control; luckily it went off the shoulder instead of into oncoming traffic...

It definitely wasn't a perfect PIT by any means. Most agencies forbid the ramming of vehicle from behind and we saw why in this video. They also did a rolling roadblock which many agencies frown upon. But ASP seems to be in a category of their own.

I don't know of any other agency that'll PIT a motorcycle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acbNG1SF-lk

Yikes, that big cop in video #1 was a chick ?
Noticed the pinhead in the left lane oblivious to the cops, nice pirouette on cop car #2, and that pickup was a smoker.

Yeah she's a beast! Anna something. And the oblivious left laners sometimes are understandable because before they hear the siren or see lights you're right on them. But many shouldn't even be putting along in left lane in the first place. The ones that hit the brakes are the worst. They don't move out of your way, they just brake!

BUT.........was his leg broken?

Wasn't that big girl the one doing most of the cussin'?

Lol I'm betting no.

She's the one that called him a "stupid b*tch" at least once.

You can pretty much see the attitude change of the Trooper in his pursuit driving, when the Motorcycle actually begins to elude. Trooper feels he has been "dissed" or something. Some people are just bad, some people make stupid mistakes. They will always be around. If that angers you, get another job.
It's commonly known when a person becomes angry for any reason, they are on a very slippery path to becoming very stupid and suffer from tunnel vision, and a well-trained professional that is capable of using legally deadly force should be able to self-recognize that decline, as the outcome is seldom good.
And Innocent lives are put at risk.

Looks like truckers at end of that bike video were trying to help block bike?
Do the cops appreciate this, or rather they just move aside?

Talk about a "yard sail" or is that "yard sale"?

Gee, jcc? I knew despite my opening line that stated I wasn't trying to turn this into a controversial discussion on pursuit policies, there'd be someone who couldn't stop themselves from a bit of bashing. Now I guess they best move or lock the thread. Did you also not bother to see this was in the General section? Seems YOU can't control yourself.

Sorry, I don't see the controversy, I made I believe an observation that others might have missed and stated why the observation might be important for everybody. If stating items that have merit is "bashing", then I disagree, and it was certainly not my intention.
Picking a different more benign video to post could solve this problem.
You knew it would tease a response, but you posted it anyway?
So then neither of us is then blameless?
I see no reason to move or lock, as the topic has merit and rational adults can discuss or comment as I see it within civil bounds.

So you don't think the video is "benign" ("Picking a different more benign video to post could solve this problem") however your comments are? I posted it to watch the intense pursuit. You were clearly criticizing the Officer and implying he shouldn't be a cop. My original post and comments were benign just not your typical response whenever it involves Police. If you think I believe your response wasn't directed at criticizing the officer than you're very mistaken. Get real. You should re-read your response. You're probably right though in one respect. I should've known there'd be someone like you that couldn't resist taking a shot at Police.

If you plan to run from the police, do it somewhere besides Arkansas.
The police will pursue you. Should you get hurt or worse, oh well. It's nobody's fault but your own. And, forget no-cash bail.
Whiny b****es should stay at home.

They, the chasers, should have shot him three minutes into the chase
Same thing on all future high speed car chases, end it as soon as possible to help protect us and our friends and families from crazies like them
What motorcycle are you guys talking about?

I wonder what action will be taken on the foul mouth trooper?

she sure showed who was "large and in charge".............

The trooper didn't become angry. His driving changed because the guy on the bike started trying harder. The trooper didn't start getting aggressive until dispatch gave him the go ahead to stop him if he had the chance. If he really didn't care about anyone's safety he had lots of chances to take the bike down but he didn't because there was traffic around.

I'll politely disagree as if the perps know that then they'll just run. Glad they nailed the SOB and AWESOME PIT JOB

Dont shoot me I have a daughter.... ha ha he says after he gets punted. Dang fool.

If for a relatively minor offense, not worth the risk of creating greater disaster.
So police should match the speeds of any fleeing suspects?
Yea sure; until an innocent gets t-boned, then it's the police faults.

Attempting to outrun a cop on a Harley?????? Not gonna work unless the cop car has a maximum top speed of like 75mph. That was funny when Backwards Ballcap Billy went flying off the bike.

EXACTLY

Another very entertaining one from GSP and a sherriffs department pursuing a motorcycle a few years ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqItymtsgxg&t=517s

Edit: I was told the reason the cop at the end that's yelling "no, no, no"! thought he might've run over the biker.

They should have shot him in the head to save the taxpayers money on trying and convicting him and then housing, caring and feeding him for the next twenty years, DEATH to ALL drug dealers

Hopefully none.
IMO, IF any action were to be taken against the officers, it would be for throwing an injured person into a cruiser prior to being evaluated by an EMT.

Yeah, don't blame the idiot who started running from the police in the first place.
We can't go blaming the criminals.
What a hot, steaming pile of male bovine feces.

This is how lawlessness begins. Just wave goodbye to the criminals.

Having a good friend who did get t boned by an officer who thought his lights allowed him to run through an intersection at 105 without pause cost her her unborn child so ive mixed thoughts.

At times I feel in the right situation with good cameras and plate readers why not just park at the offenders house on some of the pursuits that are not a major crime. Does that mean I feel they should get a pass.... no.

If some of the police departments policies did not have to be made public I feel they could internally make better rules on some pursuits but as long as the bad guys know who they will chase and who they will not so they need to get them all, or at least all they can.

Running through an intersection with red light without clearing it first is unacceptable! I'm sorry for your friend's loss, truly tragic and unforgiveable. When I say I'm for pursuing, I don't mean at all costs; no "Hunter" style driving up on sidewalks, etc. There has to be guidelines for sure. In my mind, pursuing for "traffic charges only" never happens because once they fail to stop for an Officer for a traffic violation, the charges are now far more serious.

That reply is a perfect example of back-assward "logic."

Lawlessness begins when you don't chase the criminals.

That's what I was indicating. "Lawlessness begins when you DON'T chase criminals" and just wave goodbye.

Hunter... thats a good one. What was his female partners name D?

Dee Dee McCall.

She was hotter then I remembered.

People who are against high speed pursuits always say "The police have the plate number and can get the perp later." Why would you assume the fleeing vehicle is registered and belongs to that driver? Scumbags steal vehicles all the time. This is thinking of a person who has disdain for law enforcement and sympathy for lawbreakers.

Doesn't matter because you have to be able to put the suspect behind the wheel. You can bet almost 100% of the time they claim their vehicle was stolen or they loaned it to a friend "John" but I don't know his last name.

Here's the 2023 stats for ASP; 620 total pursuits. 99 called off by the Trooper . 250 PIT/TVI with ZERO deaths to civilian or Trooper. 6 suspects dead.

Eh...I can live with that.