Oh good, even safer gas cans

'The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) is making gas cans and other fuel containers safer by requiring flame mitigation devices. The new mandatory safety standard will go into effect in July 2023. Congress required the agency to put rules into place to protect consumers under the Portable Fuel Container Safety Act (PFCSA) of 2020.

Flame mitigation devices, such as flame arrestors, protect against flame jetting and container rupturing. Flame jetting is a phenomenon where an external ignition source – such as an open flame – causes a sudden ignition of fuel within a container and forcefully expels burning vapor and liquid from the mouth of the container, resulting in a blowtorch-like effect. Container rupturing is like flame jetting, except the burning vapor and liquid are expelled through a rupture in the container.

Flame mitigation devices will be required on new gas cans and other containers that are sold empty, such as for kerosene and diesel, and on new containers that are sold pre-filled with fuels such as charcoal lighter fluid, liquid fireplace fuels and pre-mixed gasoline and engine fuel. Most fuel containers already have the safety device.

By a 4-0 vote, the CPSC made mandatory three existing voluntary standards:

ASTM F3326-21, Standard Specification for Flame Mitigation Devices on Portable Fuel Containers;
ANSI/CAN/UL/ULC 30:2022, Standard for Safety Metallic and Nonmetallic Safety Cans for Flammable and Combustible Liquids and;
ASTM F3429/F3429M-20, Standard Specification for Performance of Flame Mitigation Devices Installed in Disposable and Pre-Filled Flammable Liquid Containers.

In December 2022, the Commission also voted to update child resistance requirements for closures on portable gas cans, and diesel and kerosene containers. These requirements became effective on December 22, 2022. The revisions update the existing standard to reflect current gasoline container designs, remove ambiguities in the child test requirements, and create an adult test that reflects usage patterns. The revisions also apply requirements to aftermarket products such as pour spouts'.

www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases...-Cans-and-Other-Portable-Fuel-Containers

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over...

I must be some kind of danger to society and a walking holocaust: been using Jaz race jugs for my stuff for decades...

The inmates are running the asylum.

I vote for going back to gas cans of old and let Darwin take it from there...

Two things I always buy at yard/garage/estate sales - good 100W bulbs, and old-school fuel containers. Our gvt is run by brain-dead idiots.

Ummm.... pic says what I cant. And this is the one gallon version.

since the can passed the "child resistance" test, just take a child along when you refill them, and have one present when you want to dump gas in your mower.
a neighbor kid will do fine..........

There is one of the older ones at my work where you have to pull back the nozzle to get the fuel out. Lift 5 gallons with one hand and try to use the other to pull back the nozzle then gas goes all over the place because the nozzle is partially blocked by the "safety". I put hose clamp on it to hold it open and use two hands to lift it. It still goes all over so you must use a funnel. I have one i bought for home years ago that you couldn't get the gas out no matter what you did. A half inch drill bit got it to work! How are they safer if you spill gas all over trying to get it out.

Get 'em while you can

Amazon 1 gal jug linky

I got these for the wife because I'm not always around. I already have the VP racing 5 gallon fuel jug, but wifey can't handle it.

I don’t think O ever spilled a drop of gas in my life until the new “safe” one came out. Nearly impossible to use and not spill.

the problem is Darwin is alive and well in D.C.

Thanks for the linky! just ordered three old school spouts!

I see there are a lot of UHH retrofit kits available on AMZ for things like a red 5 gallon WATER jug , but they all seem to have mixed reviews on fitment, leakage, longevity etc.
Does anyone here have any experiences to share (good or bad) with these retrofits as I have quite a few water jugs
TIA

Amazon spout linky

We have several old plastic gas "cans", pre "safety" nonsense that needed new caps and nozzles, the ones on Amazon renovated them perfectly.

We ran out of gas near El Paso 10~15 years ago and had to buy one of the new "safety" cans, it was so useless I punched a hole in it to get gas in the Ramcharger and threw the damned thing away. Should there be a next time, it'll be a tow truck, NEVER buying one of those useless POS again.

Those look like repurposed mik jugs.

Looks like $50 for a stupid gas can soon.

Tractor Supply sells "repair " kits for older cans. Funny, they fix the new cans too.

I bought my first one and was so happy with it, I went back next weekend and bought a dozen.

I found one of the newer "safe" cans on the road a few years ago, figured it had blown out of someone's truck. After trying to use it I realized they probably threw it out.

Really pathetic what they will do: 99% of us have to suffer to cater to the 1% of morons out there who can't phantom that pouring gasoline MAY be dangerous.

Thanks to both for the replies

Looks like you need to log onto the internet to pour fuel...

Yep. Me too.

Me three.

If the cans being open was a problem, a small cap on the end, like a few of my "pre-safety" cans have, was a sufficient solution. I like having those caps anyway in case I need to transport the cans while full.

Maximum retardation.

Nothing to stop you from unscrewing the crap device and just pouring the gas through a funnel into the vehicle.

Which is exactly what I do, neater and doesn't spill a drop.

I have a number of cans purchased back in the 80's and early 90's before all this nonsense.

Still have some old metal Eagle cans I still use. They are tough, seal tight, and don't tip over in the trunk.

They are pricey new, but I got them at a DRMO auction years ago. Keep your eye out at garage sales and estate sales--the old cans are still out there.

Same here. I went to the Eagle cans probably 10-12 years ago when I first experienced those garbage ventless cans they forced on us. Expensive is right, just googled them up and I think they are 2x what I paid back then. I like the eagle can just fine. I can't tell if this has any impact on the manufacture of those. Let's hope not.

These new ventless gas cans are a pain, so I worked around the problem. Don't throw away your old plastic gas can, retrofit it with a traditional spout and vent. There are companies that sell the parts to do it (example in link):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R8XQHTV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

I installed retrofitted every one of my gas cans and now they work like they should.

The Chinese are perfectly happy to sell you a 5 gallon "water jug"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/392196444984?epid=8013092175&hash=item5b50bad338:g:wQgAAOSwh4ZiGD1o:sc:ShippingMethodStandard!06370!US!-1&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsGUqYiHOlroBrSKx3Kk9WcqAI0hx7Vsa6m9VPYRK%2BqgEXxRFoY3zJk97Ihkia1Mn3%2Br9bG3MeDZKyW9PXuHeE%2FOqEPTp%2F%2F4BepO%2BRbb4XLlqs1eyg8dxz4FnK8U8bwVBxSdF2KorZi6f%2FLuf8E%2BO0V0SR3re%2B0GARlzWL1dpTclUbPLdZUPZv5VEDtgPD5jeskRXqt3IEF9NeS63wCprU5oF7ukSeDNA5RHudVtiLLaS%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR96o1vTEYQ

Might advise painting it red as I believe federal law states so for gasoline, just in case

No Politics in the general forum!!

I got a can about a year ago that had a plastic mesh screen inside the filler neck.

I thought it was a flame arrestor but maybe it was something else.

Hopefully they will not over complicate things and make it stupid but the people who make this laws aren't smart enough to use the cans without the extra gadgets so I hold out very little hope.

Like ruderunner I got my new spouts local but from Ace Hardware

This is the style arrestor I have but not the brand of container.

https://c2rtech.weebly.com/home/no-spill-introduces-gas-can-with-newly-developed-technology

Nothing but race gas cans at my house for everything. Maximum fill rate into giant funnels for everything I do. I bought one of the "safe" cans just for diesel fuel for my Kubota. TOTAL piece of garbage. Most of the diesel ended up on the hood of the compact tractor when filling it.

Our Canadian friends still had decent made in Canada gas cans a couple years ago.
I buy a few every time I am in Canada.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/392196444984?

i crabbed and complained about three 5 gallon cans i bought about 6-8 years ago at the local gas station for 13 bucks a pop !
i fixed them by tearing the spouts apart, gutting them, and using a heavy plastic "push on" cap that fit the spout diameter.
for a vent, i drilled a hole in the top of the can just past the handle, that fits a standard short rubber tire valve stem. it took a little finagling to fish the valve stem through the can to grab the end and finally popping it into the drilled hole. i removed the core, then reinstalled the cap.
works like a charm ! just remove the valve stem cap when pouring, and it lets in just enough air to pour a nice, steady flow without the "glug, glug, glug" that can splash all over.

A number of vendors will ship you a red one if you ask.

For a future note.

The replacement spout kits like this include a vent cap. Drill a hole, pop in the vent, Swap the spout and you are good as old style.

I like your idea but this may save some fabrication.

Looks like the kits I bought.

I have 2 gas cans. A metal 5 gallon and a plastic 1 gallon for 2 stroke mix. I've had both for over 25 years. The metal one is likely 40 plus years old. I have zero reason to buy any of these new cans....my ancient stuff works just fine.

I got a related story to the use of gas cans. A customer of mine was telling me about how at the gas station when trying to fill his tank he would have to go real slow or it would trigger and shut off. He was frustrated that it would take forever to fill his tank up. He hired me to install a used replacement filler neck. When taking it apart I found the problem. A long white piece of plastic was stuck in the filler neck. It was a internal check valve type of device that obviously slipped out of a gas can when someone poured a gas can into the truck. Beware of these newer cans with these hidden parts inside the spouts that can inadvertently end up in your tank!

another good reason to take apart the spouts of these newer cans and throw away the internal parts.
oh, wait............i still have the guts of my spouts on the shelf ! [ya know, i wonder what i can use those for..... ]

All the farm and home stores around here sell a 5 gallon jug called a “U jug” which I guess means universal. It states right on it “not for fuel” but it’s awful convenient they sell them in red, yellow, and blue.....
Personally I prefer the translucent/white one so I can see how much is left in it at a glance, since I don’t currently have multiple types of fuel laying around. They kind of resemble the 5 gal race fuel jugs but not as robust. Works fine. Dads been using one for years

I've used rubber valve stems to make vents with. All you have to do is remove the valve core from the stem, drill a half inch hole in the appropriate place for a vent on the jug, run a wire thru the hole you just drilled thru the jug and out the fill opening. Attach the rubber valve stem by running the wire thru it so the threaded end the cap screws onto comes thru the new hole first, pull it thru the jug and pop it in place just like you would on a wheel. When you need the vent, take the cap off. I have bought the replacement pour nozzles from Tractor Supply and they work well. I fixed my yellow 5 gallon diesel jug, plus my two 5 gallon red jugs for jet ski gas this way, and they work great. All 3 of those jugs came with the F'd up nozzles and no vents.

the EXACT method i used to install my valve stem vents !
the only difference was i drilled mine to 7/16" because my stem diameters were that size. i used a step drill to insure the hole was round, and the drill didn't catch on the can during break through, boogering up the hole.

Yep....when I drill the hole, I use a butterfly bit that is intended for wood. Works like a champ, and the step bit sounds like a great solution too. I'm not that hi tech yet cause I'm old and set in my ways...lol.

I have one of those new cans…it’s easy to use and uses the weight of the can to open the fill valve, with a built in vent. Easy to use. The earlier ones were a pain in the butt but these seem like an improvement over my old cans (which I still have).