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Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range

Posted By: 360view

Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/04/23 07:21 PM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tech...partner-on-electric-aircraft/ar-AA15YaN9

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The plane, named Midnight, will be able to carry a pilot and four passengers. The aircraft will have a range of of 100 miles (160.9 kilometers), optimally making back-to-back trips of around 20 miles, with a charging time of about 10 minutes in-between.

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give your suggested names to replace “Midnight” which implies scary to me
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/04/23 07:30 PM

Doctor Killer 2.0
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/04/23 07:31 PM

Just think. All those dummies sitting in gas stations with dead Teslas would be in a smoking hole in the ground instead.
Posted By: 360view

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/04/23 10:20 PM

pics

https://archer.com/
Posted By: Sniper

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 12:06 AM

100 mile range is useless.

20 mile trips? For what? be easier to just jump in the car and drive.
Posted By: Neil

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 12:33 AM

Most airports are way more than 20 miles apart in the middle of the country unless you count those dirt road airports the crop duster guys use. This may be great on the east coast, where everyone is condensed together, but it won't fly here (pun intended).

They have flights here from Boise to the far east side of the state, but they are not direct so it's easier to rent a car and drive it. Also, when you get off the plane you still need a rental car anyways.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by 360view
give your suggested names to replace “Midnight” which implies scary to me


Hell Crater.

Like a Hell Cat, but with more of an impact. shock
Posted By: 2boltmain

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 01:17 AM

All those pregnant women and the children in sandals are definitely gonna stay busy working the mines in the Democratic Republic of the Congo to make all those environment saving batteries.
Posted By: TJP

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by 360view
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tech...partner-on-electric-aircraft/ar-AA15YaN9

give your suggested names to replace “Midnight” which implies scary to me


One Way seems appropriate?

Maybe they could advertise to end your fear of flying PERMANENTLY
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 06:15 AM

I owned and flew a 1960 piper Comanche 250 HP 4 seater airplane( it would seat three kids in the back seat and two adults up front) for 15 over years, it would cruise at 185 MPH at or above 6500 ft above sea level, that is a tiny bit over 3 miles per minute. Take off and climb was from 75 MPH up to 120 MPH depending how fast I wanted to get to my cruising altitude, the higher I flew it the better the fuel mileage was, 17 GPH at 6500 Ft and 9.6 GPH at 12,000 ft.. + The higher I flew it the better the ride was also as well as less traffic, go high, always up
My point is 100 miles isn't very far at flying speeds, the little trainer airplanes are around 100 MPH max, great for building flying time and not fast enough to get you hurt in a hurry when training and learning how to fly them up Not so good for getting where you want to go in a decent time whiney
Posted By: Tom_440

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 06:42 AM

I have a Nissan Leaf with a range of 70 miles. It drops significantly when its really hot or really could outside, or when I drive on the highway. "Range anxiety" is real, but my worst case scenario is I get stuck on the side of the road and ponder how to get to my destination. I can't imagine worrying about falling out of the sky when the battery gets empty because it got cold or you had to wait for a landing spot to open up. A sport bike sounds like a safer option.
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 08:58 AM

70 mile range? That wouldn't even get me to the grocery store and back. laugh2

As for the plane, it's a vertical take off and landing aircraft so you could set it down in many places. It's cool in a high tech sort of way, but doesn't really seem too practical, but I guess you have to start somewhere.
Posted By: gdonovan

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
70 mile range? That wouldn't even get me to the grocery store and back. laugh2


And what happens in flight when the temp drops and the battery pack life is suddenly chopped?

No thanks.
Posted By: 6PakBee

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 02:37 PM

"Ladies and gentlemen, we will be beginning our descent. Unfortunately we are a bit short of the airport so if anyone sees a cornfield, please alert the flight crew."
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 05:00 PM

For some people the "fun factor" overrides practicality.

https://www.kitplanes.com/turned-on-we-fly-an-electric-xenos/
Posted By: oldjonny

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by gdonovan
Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
70 mile range? That wouldn't even get me to the grocery store and back. laugh2


And what happens in flight when the temp drops and the battery pack life is suddenly chopped?

No thanks.


There is an interesting read in the Feb '23 Motor Trend of their long term test of the Rivian R1T. Guy takes is camping to an area with ZERO chargers. Little did he realize how much the battery capacity drops just sitting still, doing nothing, in a cold environment. He then enters the quasi-panic mode by the third day realizing that he has to get it somewhere to get a charge...somehow these folks seem to think that having to completely plan EVERYTHING makes sense in your life simply because you chose to drive a "green" vehicle that has severe limitations all while paying $100K for the benefit of being able to parade among your friends and tout how "green" you are.
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Doctor Killer 2.0


Quite true!

It's one thing to be stranded on the side of the road because the battery in your EV dies. It's an entirely different game when you're in the air and it dies.
Posted By: gdonovan

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/05/23 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by justinp61
Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Doctor Killer 2.0


Quite true!

It's one thing to be stranded on the side of the road because the battery in your EV dies. It's an entirely different game when you're in the air and it dies.



When the battery dies, you die.
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/06/23 12:01 AM

I MIGHT have an electric motor in a glider to get around, when the battery dies (ain’t that an appropriate word) I could glide for awhile to find the perfect crash site. Maybe they get electric parachutes too.
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/06/23 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by cudaman1969
I MIGHT have an electric motor in a glider to get around, when the battery dies (ain’t that an appropriate word) I could glide for awhile to find the perfect crash site. Maybe they get electric parachutes too.


Call Acme!
Posted By: moparx

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/06/23 05:21 PM

panic

MEEP MEEP !! drive
beer
Posted By: Moparite

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/07/23 02:04 PM

Quote
"Ladies and gentlemen, we will be beginning our descent. Unfortunately we are a bit short of the airport so if anyone sees a cornfield, please alert the flight crew."

up grin
I think "dive bomber" or "swan diver" would be appropriate. And the short distance planes are used a lot in vacation islands so the people can get a good look at them and travel to the next island. I guess it's a matter of time before we have electric boats. Stranded out at sea is better than someone having to ID the body parts. scope
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/07/23 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Doctor Killer 2.0
the Beechcraft V tail Bonanza airplanes are called "Forked Tail Doctor Killers" due to the number of medical Doctors kill in them when they would start the decant to land after a cross country trip and forget to not pull the throttles back enough to slow those airplanes down and descend, they would accelerate fast enough pointed downhill to make the V tails start vibrating and oscillating badly enough to completely knock the tails completely off of those airplanes puke whiney
All certified aircraft have a Velocity Never Exceed, VNE speed to help the pilots and crews avoid damaging the air frames from going too fast downhill or in rough weather. All The Bonanza made would exceed the VNE very easily pointed down hill at full throttle tsk
Posted By: 360view

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/09/23 01:58 PM

In the 1950s the USA had programs to create Nuclear power units to power Bombers and recognizance planes.

As we speak Russian scientists are dying while testing prototypes trying to create a nuclear powered/nuclear bomb tipped cruise missile that could cruise for weeks in the Southern Hemisphere of the Earth before a final “Southern Surprise” attack on the USA or Europe.

A plane like the Stellantis Midnight would be far more versatile if it had a small nuclear power electric generator unit for cruise and a lithium battery for boosting takeoff and climb.

But fission nuclear is politically incorrect as fossil fuels.
Posted By: ChryCoGuy

Re: Stellantis to build electric airplane with 100 mile range - 01/12/23 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Alaskan_TA
Originally Posted by 360view
give your suggested names to replace “Midnight” which implies scary to me


Hell Crater.

Like a Hell Cat, but with more of an impact. shock


Presumably they will be painted in 'high impact' colors? work
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