Chrysler going electric

Stellantis/Chrysler plans to debut an EV in 2025 and be all-electric by 2028.

Important to note that this is Chrysler, not Dodge and Ram.
Positioning Chrysler to be a EV only halo brand while continuing ICE in Dodge and Ram might be a reasonable marking move.

Agree Mastershake. Same as Caddy is doing. I don't get it but then again, I'm a bit biased. There was a Yahoo article today on the Ford pickup. Perhaps a missprint but they said 97k for a Lightning and Ford is setting up to sell 150k of them. For 97k that truck better last a lifetime. Now your "Halo" brands, yes, you can ask more for them but let's be real. The wife and I make nice money and I'm hoping to retire pretty well. The reason being that I have so far paid over 20k for only 1 car. Who the heck is buying all this stuff??

since the new 55 MPG standard, and NOx emissions requirement announced last week
Stellantis has to go this way.

Building a gasoline/ diesel that can meet both new NOx and MPG is practically impossible, at least for less than $100,000 each.

Many citizens do not realize than new gasoline vehicles were outlawed last week.

Perhaps some citizens do
because the prices of better used gasoline vehicles are growing to previously unjustifiable levels.

Gasoline vehicles are not being outlawed in India, China or Africa,
nor is coal burning.

CO2 emissions on Earth will not go down.

Wait...you are being a realist. There is no room for a realist is this political climate. Pointing out the obvious is not allowed.

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From Car and Driver:
"Ford has announced prices for the 2022 F-150 Lightning, including Pro, XLT, Lariat, and Platinum trims.
The base price is $41,669 including a mandatory $1695 destination charge.
The XLT starts at $54,669 and the Lariat and Platinum versions will be considerably more expensive—a loaded model starts above $92,000."

I have read that they have 200,000 reservations. However those folks just know have the ability to turn those in to firm orders, I have not seen any numbers on that.

and those of that dont care about ev`s are going to pay for it with higher power bills

higher electric bills and rolling brown and black outs, because the power grid can't support a huge influx of electric vehicles.

While I know it's a totally different company now, I still can't help but think of all the electrical problems our classics had and now Chrysler is gonna make an EV?

Yea I wonder what just one battery on fire and all associated with it does to the air quality long term and then the special equipment repair shops, dealerships, fire departments and others will have to spend money on.

Future is looking real bright.


https://adreesh-ghoshal.medium.com/how-lithium-ion-batteries-in-evs-catch-fire-9d166c5b3af1

I look at all the electronics in the new vehicles and think: troubleshooting problems will be 100X worse.

My father “tricked me” into watching him troubleshoot digital circuits damaged by lightning about 1968, and fooled me into learning to solder and use logic probes and oscilloscopes.

Will vehicles become so much of a headache to keep running that Uber/Lift will do +80% of land transport?

I sit here wondering:
What model year did automakers start making vehicles that “normal” buyers will eventually conclude they never should have bought?

Many independent shops as well as new car dealers are not capable of "Diagnostic Troubleshooting" and fire the parts cannon- all the while making the customer pay for their failed attempts and lack of ability. This will continue to get worse. My hats off to you guys who dig in and hunt down a problem to its root cause.

I'm sure that somewhere, sometime, some of the EV supporters are going to claim, rightfully so, that ditching the IC powerplant will lead to greater reliability and serviceability due to fewer components in an EV. My thought though is that this is just for the powerplant. All the gee-whiz crap, lane avoidance, minimum stopping distance, GPS, and on and on and on will be in an EV just as it is in an IC and will be just as big of a PITA.

doesn't Cadillac have a semi-self driving cruise control now ?

Yes it is called Super Cruise. Ford's is called Blue Cruise. Tesla's is called Autopilot which is a step below what they call Full Self Driving Capability which I don't think is rolled out yet.

Most everyone has adaptive cruise control with "lane keeping" that will keep the car centered in the lane.

while the "driver" plays with his/her phone..............

…..and 95% of the people that come in the door expect miracles under the 1hr of diag they sign up for.

The best argument I see against the incoming onslaught of EV is the grid is in no shape to handle it - it's a damn good one too.

I agree the electrical grid is in poor shape to handle vastly different load patterns sure to come.

Many now torn down coal plants were at key locations in the grid, and now there is no generator whatsoever at those key points.

At the very least a cheap line up of natural gas “peaking units” should have been installed at those key spots,
or even wood chip fuel power plants, since wood chips can be stockpiled and are considered “green.”

Coal is just very old wood.

A “green work around” to continue to use coal would be to bury 3 tons of cellulose for every ton of coal burned.
Where would one get the cellulose?
Kelp from the ocean might be the cheapest source.

If you have not read about mining the rock Olivine, crushing it, and adding the powder to the ocean to pull CO2 out of the atmosphere, the economics are superior to the whacko ideas being done now. Olivine works three times better than limestone.