CHRYSLER CARLISLE SHOW IS A GO!!

Hey folks, wondering what anyone has heard concerning the Carlisle show this year. I read/heard someplace that the Ford show was delayed 1 month, which puts it very close to the Chrysler show.

Anyone got some info?

Hope it's mid august for the warmer weather.

Rarely has it been pretty hot at Carlisle in mid july, don't need it hotter !

Ed has been great about posting updates on their Facebook page concerning the Chrysler show. So far it has NOT been rescheduled, and Ed is hopeful it won't have to be. But like everything else right now, it's not entirely under our control.

Thank you, Bruce!

Perhaps I should make a standalone Carlisle post on here, but for now, I'll address this one. Below is a copy and paste of what I posted on my PERSONAL Facebook. It's a little out of date because since then the Ford show was rescheduled to the end of July but the point of the post is still valid. Please read it and PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't spread rumors or listen to them. To get the most current info, go to www.CarlisleEvents.com or any of our event Facebook pages!!

Without further ado:



The Carlisle Chrysler Nationals is NOT cancelled!! I was alerted tonight that there is another rumor going around and I want to clear things up. Here are some FACTS:

Nobody knows what is going to happen with this virus. As an event promoter, we are expected to predict the future. We can't! But we at least have to have a solid plan and be ready to change. We have already changed some shows. If you look at those changes, you'll see that we are changing them in the order in which they occur. Spring Carlisle got moved and so did our Import show. Those were the first 2 shows on our original schedule. Ford is next, scheduled for June 5-7, then it's our rescheduled Spring, then Chevy and THEN Chrysler. If Ford, Spring and Chevy aren't canceled (which they are NOT), why would we jump to Chrysler and cancel it, or even move it, at this point if we haven't moved the 3 shows before it??

Can the above change? Sure! And IF it does, here is the process and timeline: If we feel that we won't be able to have a show safely or the governor isn't allowing events on the date of an event and we have no choice but to reschedule, we look for alternate available dates. Once we find the best available date and we're SURE we need to reschedule, we get the team together to plan our official announcement. We pick the date and EXACT time that the announcement will be made via Facebook, our website and emails to that show's database. So far when we've done this, it all occurs in about 1-2 days.

For the best and most current information, just go to our website (www.CarlisleEvents.com) or the show's Facebook page. Whatever you see there is current! If you hear a rumor that one of our shows is canceled or rescheduled, don't call or message us (or me), just check either of the above sources.

I hope this helps and I'm planning to see everyone July 10-12 😁

I was hoping he'd chime in.

OK, thanks for the updates

Well I see are governor still has the county which Carlisle is in still in the red. From what I have read if a county is moved to the next step yellow I believe places are limited to 25 in one group at least we will have plenty of elbow room. Well i guess all we can do is wait and see!

At the 2pm Health of the State news conference today, the PA Health Secretary was asked about the status of upcoming large events in the State, be it outdoor events (like a Fair) or indoor (like a concert/auction/gun show/etc)

He/She said that no official decision has been made yet, as currently all county's are in either a Red or Yellow status.
Then followed up that comment with "no large events can occur in a County, UNTIL it returns to GREEN Status".

Take that for what it's worth...
But it seems the county has less than 8weeks left to move from Red to Green.
Yellow won't cut it according to Levine... who seems to be the only thing Wolf is listening too.

Haven't looked at a map, but hopefully Carlisle isn't in Dauphin County... They have been fighting all week with the Governor. And he is lashing out hard on all who dare to defy... and he holds a grudge. My bet is the 6 counties he is fighting with now, will be the last ones in the State allowed to open.

Yes you got that right and I guess when you think of it I,m sure it is less than 8 weeks because Carlisle needs time for everything to take place and get things ready so we might be talking 4 weeks. According to those in command it sounds like most counties still have an increase of the virus so it,s hard to believe that it will be green in 8 weeks. Maybe Ed will let us know how many weeks they need till it is moved to another date. Ed is a great guy and I know that I wouldn,t want to be in his shoes but keep up the good work!!!!

Thanks for the update.

Is Carlisle in the same county as Harrisburg the capital?

Carlisle is in Cumberland and Harrisburg is in Dauphin. The governor has said that any business opening ahead of time will be subject to losing any goverment money and also may lose there business license. The whole thing is getting wilder by the day!!!!! PS I live in Berks county about 50 miles from Carlisle and already the towns are beginning to cancel July 4th activities.

As some professional sports start back up without fans in attendance, it would be interesting to hear how the fairgrounds staff is planning to control social distancing protocols within the grounds.

Put aside the swap meet and car corral areas for a minute (but a major issue), what type of safety measures are being put in place for areas where there would typically be a large gathering of people in a small amount of space (concession stands, bathrooms, stands near the stage, information building, seminar tent area, car buildings)? I would assume the fairgrounds now has dedicated entrances and exits to promote social distancing.

If the event takes place this year, it will be interesting to see how far in advance guidelines/map are posted to prepare attendees.

Other questions that I’m thinking of are following:

Will camping be allowed on the property?

Will they rearrange the layout of the swap meet / show fields spots? Will the aisles have one way flow?

If Dodge continues with the thrill rides, will it be limited to a driver and one customer in the back seat (with sanitizing in between rides)?

We are looking at ALL of the points addressed above and then some. Yes, we are planning to implement measures. Right now, we still have 2 shows scheduled ahead of Chrysler so we are looking at a "worst case scenario" for those shows. Meaning, social distancing, extra sanitation, "sneeze guards" in Guest Services, etc. Hopefully we can lighten those measures as the season progresses.

We have prepared a 44-page document with our plan of how we can hold our events and do it SAFELY for everyone. We're on it!!

Right now, the numbers in Cumberland County are improving so that's a really good sign! Our staff is still working every day. Most are working from home but I choose to come to the office every day. The swap meet numbers are still UP over last year (year-to-date) and last year we completely sold out of every single space. Showfield numbers are down a little (less than 10%) but I think that's because a lot of people are waiting to register. I understand and that's fine. ALL of my special guests are still planning to attend.

I'm not sure what else I can say other than we absolutely want to have the shows (all of them) and that's what we are planning for. Now it's up to the government officials and how the disease numbers go over the next couple of weeks. Fingers crossed!!

Ed

Ed,

Thank you for the quick response! I always look forward to the event each year.

Would it be feasible and somewhat enforceable to make the show and swap meet aisles "One-Way", with passing allowed?

And while we are on possibilities, how about some seating spread out among the site, and a little shade might be asking too much?

Looks like Cumberland gets to go to Yellow on May 22nd... along with York, where I'm at.
"The Associated Press has learned that Wolf is planning to announce Friday that effective May 22, Adams, Beaver, Carbon, Columbia, Cumberland, Juniata, Mifflin, Perry, Susquehanna, Wyoming, Wayne and York will be the next batch of counties moving to the “yellow” phase of his reopening plan."

Now Cumberland just needs to get to GREEN early enough for plans to be made.
It will be interesting to see if Hotels will allow all the reservations... especially in Harrisburg area.
There has been some talk on the local news of Hotels re-opening at a lowered capacity.
(Also no morning breakfast buffets)

Glad York made the list, as it's been getting a little ugly here...
Our York DA is refusing to follow the Gov, and will not cite anyone for lock-down violations.
So Wolf is using the State Police as his personal SS, to hand out fines, and shut down businesses here.

Good luck making someone who just bought a fender walk 1.5 aisles to get to the exit instead of turn around and go back out the 1/2 aisle the way they came

Some a/c would be nice too! I've lived in PA most of my life but have only hit this event a couple times because ya know, humidity in this part of the world.

You must be thinking of a Chevy or Ford enthusiasts? Mopar enthusiasts always follow the rules.

I see your point, after walking miles of aisles for days to score a 50? year old rusted fender for a few bucks, walking across an aisle to the next one just to facilitate the flow of pedestrian traffic for the rest of the day for thousands, would be a bridge too far, I forget, this is a mopar get off my lawn crowd.

Seriously, if wearing a mask is infringing figuratively on one's rights during a pandemic, requiring crowds to walk one direction on an open air aisle is just a potential spark for a riot I suspect.

I,ve been watching this Red, Yellow, Green deal the governor has going and there isn,t even any talk of going green in the counties that first went yellow. I hate to say this but it looks like it will be a long time till any counties go Green and according to are leaders Green is the only way that any place can have a large number of people even yellow is only allowed 25 people!!!!

i have only missed two shows since it's inception. the first one, and one a couple of years ago when the water pump went out of my "bus" 50 miles into the trip.
as an old duffer with severe health issues, i believe i will pass this year, even if all the precautions are taken.
i'm not a "hide under the covers till it's gone" kind of guy, but i sure wouldn't want to bring the "cooties" home to my wonderful wife of 40 years.

I have my spaces in row P far back corner by gate 7. Fence on 2 sides of my spaces
You don't know how many people I have had to stop over the years from using my spaces as a toilet

That's sad to hear, but a reality we live in.

Would more, better located porta potties by event producer might relieve (pun intended) your situation?

Seems like there maybe a few vacant vendor spots scattered across the site this year, just screaming for a Porta Potty.

I would keep complaining.

Sad. But it is Row "P" after all.

One year I had a B#@&hy old woman walking her ankle biting dog and she let him crap right in front of my tables on the lawn and she walked away

I yelled at her Hey are you going to clean that up, she gave me a look took out some tissues and picked it up

I would have picked it up and threw it at her if she didn't

I don't complain, I just handle the situation my own way.

I get that but, its hard for the promoter to fix what they don't know about, and I bet you are not alone in your predicament.

Man, that's terrible! I've only been to Carlisle a couple of times, but never saw anything like this. Is there a "bad side" of the swap meet, like a bad side of town?

My wife was just asking me this morning if I want her to come with me this year, as she has to schedule the Friday off. I have a showfield entry and hotel reservation already. I will probably go depending on if they are allowed to hold the event or not. I mainly go to race Friday nights Mopar race at South Mountain Raceway if thats not held it will be a deciding factor in my attending. I do want to see the display of special Dodge drag trucks, and the AARs and T/As and the 50 years of Dusters as I have had four of them . Its great Cudaboy keeps us informed lets hope for good news !

What would be the purpose of traveling one way? Does the virus only go a certain direction in the outdoors so this would cut down any potential spread? That being said I hope the show goes on successful and it's not ruined with regulations..

Theoretically - in stores with shopping carts - people wouldn't pass close to each other much and the cart would maintain distance when several people are in an aisle. I think they have pretty much stopped that here now, along with limiting the amount of people in stores.

I can't comment on the effectiveness of the true reduction of covid transmission, BUT the big box stores implemented it, and the public seemed to be accepting of it, even it might have been more "theater" then anything else, what else is new, however with a car show, you know what its like wandering thru the swap field aisles, and bouncing from side to side when things catch your eye, when traffic is both ways, you are constantly running into head on other shoppers, then you do the shuck and jive a few things before you figure which side each is going to pass on, not a big deal, but we are both stopped, face to face, for a moment, all that would be done with if everybody was walking the same way. It will not be an issue when many stay home.

Hey I get it, new ideas are always poo poo before being tried, Change sucks for some. Thanks for asking, which I believe was a fair and somewhat sincere question.

edit I'm not astute enough to know if my shuck and jive reference is offensive to some, so if so, my apologies in advance as it was not meant to be.

Every store in this area that implemented 1-way isles, already did away with them.
Didn't even last a week at Giant(grocery store)... signs & arrows are gone at the Home Depot, Walmart & SAMS too.

It seemed to me the Big Box store one way COVID concept NEVER made sense from a infection standpoint.Thought it was stupid then and still do, glad they dumped the idea, sad though the "sheep" went blindly along with it and nobody objected.
My idea was to maybe get the "sheep" to think, the car show was "trying" to be proactive in protecting everyone's safety ( and I can see no case it would make it less safe), and maybe sneak in a idea that would surely IMO reduce pedestrian congestion when the show is busy and crowded, and relatively easy to implement in 2020 "safety and all" to get everyone used to the idea and a test run, when crowds might be be reduced because of COVID.
But hey, you can lead horse to water, but..............



Edit, the big box stores have a vested interest in erasing COVID from everyone's memory ASAP, until a second wave possibly arrives, they answer to the almighty dollar.

Well with living in Pa. thing's seem to be moving slowly. It looks like under yellow only 25 people or less can meet. Under green only 250 or less can meet and no large gatherings at all so it is about anybodies guess when we will be walking the aisles at Carlisle.Maybe just maybe they can pull of an exception with are fine Governor!!!!

Looks like a bunch of us regulars will not be attending this years show. There are some reason but this is what I hear from others. No social distancing can be in effect in a show with isles like this. Two sides of each isle with no passing people, no one will not follow the 6 foot rules anyways. Vending at a spot with people picking up the parts one after another. Do you tell them not to touch them unless you buy them. Show buildings how many people will be let in a one time and do you have to line up six feet apart trying to enter each building. These types of shows are for looking through the swap meet for parts so everyone at the show does this. The Hotel, how well are rooms going to be cleaned after someone else stays there. We had problems with a clean room last year and the year before and had changed to another room every year so I can imagine just how lacks the cleaning will be. Were I live things are shut down or partially shut down till July 1st. The boarder is still shut down and no one knows when it will open. Playing to attend and vend when there are no answers up to a week and a half ahead of the show is not a good thing when you vend. Ah Maybe next year when the 1971s will be 50 years old I will dig one of my E Bodies out of the garage and attend with a Vehicle for the first time instead of vending.

Have fun stay safe.

......... The Hotel, how well are rooms going to be cleaned after someone else stays there......

Those indian hotel owners aren't exactly the cleanest , especially at some of the lower price hotels.

I was talking to a friend of mine who has 4 spots and it doesn,t look like he is going to make the trip. He told me that most of the aftermarket people he deals with don,t have any parts on the shelves because the manufactures were shut down so it became the trickle affect. I think there is going to be alot of empty vender spots. Has anyone heard are they having spring Carlisle which is in about 2 weeks?

How can they proclaim to all that the Show is Officially "ON"... when Wolf still hasn't said any large events can happen.

https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/carlisle-chrysler-nationals-is-a-go-for-2020/

While it might be "likely"... Without Wolf's "Blessing from the High Tower", how can it be official.
At this point I think a lot of people are more interested on whether or not Carlisle will offer "Refunds" to anyone that doesn't want to go because of Covid.... Especially if they are older(like most of those in the show field) or have underlying conditions, like diabetes, heart or lung issues or suppressed immune system from cancer treatments(either current or past).

Also note Wolf just extended his Covid Emergency Powers today (6/3) for another 90days...

I guess he realizes his "political career" is over, might as well go out being "well remembered" for his actions...

Looks like the show is cancelled.

I don't know... two conflicting announcements on the same day.

The article I posted that says Carlisle is On...
And the Governor of PA claiming a State Emergency for another 90days.

But then again... Wolf was marching with hundreds of protesters this week in a YELLOW county.
So apparently his "rules" are, well... "flexible" if he's invited...
So they just have to invite him to Chrysler's at Carlisle.... problem solved.

If canceled , why cannot it be post-poned till a later date?

Just checked Carlisle's website-still counting down: 35 days 12 hours and 53 minutes to go

And once again NOT TRUE

At this point I would not say anything , Just wait and see what the state does

Nothing is sure until the week before the Chrysler Show

Big test is if the show next week happens there !!!!!!

.......Nothing is sure until the week before the Chrysler Show.........


That's going to annoy a lot of people if Carlisle Events waits until a week before the show to cancel it, with travel plans and vendor setup involved. .

Let face it, there are no real winners here. If they canceled say tomorrow, and the Gov dropped Restrictions in a day or two, many would complain they jumped the gun, if they wait until a week before, many will complain why did they wait until last minute. Its best if everyone just has some understanding here. I think a week out cancellation is the best compromise for this, but heck then, I have no problem compromising on the little stuff.

I have already made my plans.

If you read the Governors red, yellow and green stages Carlisle is now in yellow and it states that no more than 25 people can gather with no large gathering. I don,t think it will change to green till Carlisle and even if it would, under green it say,s no more than 250 people together and no large gatherings. If there is a show maybe the Governor shook hands with the Carlisle owners. I was told that Hershey car show is cancelled and that is in Oct. If that is true something doesn't add up!!!!!

PS I talked to pretty many guy's who said they were not going because of walking around with a mast in 95 degree weather and i personally cannot blame them! I alway's go 3 day's but will only go 1 if that!

Its my understanding. the Mopar Nats staff is waiting to decide if or how to proceed once a decision on IF the Carlisle show will go on as planned .

There has already been several large shows around the country either canceled or delayed by months

I have no interest in the Carlisle show, But the Wife and I just bought flights back for the Nats in Aug.
if it doesn't happen I'll just get more time to visit with family and friends

I still could not even fly into the US being from Germany

Carsten

I'm Not a dr., but the virus supposeably can't travel in heat.

it's hot in florida, california, nevada, texas, arizona, etc. lots of cases there now.

Yes you are right Its hot in Florida, always has been, but there are approx 2600 Floridians that are currently on the rather cold side right now, according to real Dr's.

Good to know the virus will not travel to Carlisle with me, if I planned to attend.

https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/carlisle-chrysler-nationals-is-a-go-for-2020/

Does Bolig have a red phone to the gov's desk??

Sounds like a logistical nightmare everyone stay safe!The wife and will go boating that weekend.Will be back at Chrysler's at Carlisle in 2021.😃

Don't know about the phone but I sure don't understand how there doing the shows when know one else is allowed to have a large crowd. Like i said before under green you can't have over 250 people and Carlisle isn't even in the green yet. I guess that it's called politics!!!!!!!!!!

Same here. I canceled my room. Just felt even if it did happen the vendors would be sparse and everything else a PIA.

I feel like the turn out would be way down so i will wait till next year.

C'mon people, if everyone is scared then you will ruin it for the rest of us who are going no matter what! Once this starts going it will mushroom in a hurry with wild rumors and innuendo's. I guess I can get a few more swap spots this year, Megaparts is not going, sucks...

That certainly is a possibility, nobody however should overlook the opposite worst case scenario, which seems to me, just if not more so, concerning.

Everybody wants the show, but.............

...... Megaparts is not going.......


Doesn't surprise me ,their tent is always packed with parts and people.

I think that Mega parts won't be the only one's not there. A friend of mine who sells used and repo parts told me he couldn't get the repo parts because the companies shelf's are empty because the companies that make the stuff were closed down because of the virus!!

I just got an email that Mecum is postponing their Harrisburg PA auction, which was to start July 29, due to state and local restrictions.

Anyone here ever get a good deal on a car at Carlisle? I thought a lot of you said most stuff was overpriced. It will be interesting to see what things sell for this year because of the virus...

Different county. I live in Harrisburg (Dauphin County), and work in Carlisle (Cumberland County). I work in an "essential" industry...I see some stuff opening, and some stuff staying closed. The local dragstrip opened last weekend (South Mountain). I didn't check in to see if there were any restrictions, or etc. on that, but they're lucky to get 250 total people there on a regular weekend...so probably not a big deal. Anyways, Dauphin is still under restrictions for a few weeks yet, so I can see the Mecum postponement. As for Carlisle...unless they've got a back door deal worked with the state...it's hard to say whether or not any events will happen yet. I have noticed a lot of businesses in Cumberland County seem to be following their own guidelines though.

35 years ago, i found a 70 super bee for my one buddy that was restored [to the standards at that time] that was exactly like the car he had when he got married.
it was a 383/833 combo, orange with a black interior and ralley wheels.
asking price was 7500, but when the deal closed, i got it for 5950.
he still has it today, and has located his original car he bought new. it is a couple of towns over from here.

this probably doesn't compare to this year.

There again if they have there shows i would say that they cut a deal with Mr. Wolf because like i said before even under green like has been already stated it has to be 250 people or less no matter what the county!!!!!

https://www.governor.pa.gov/newsroo...or-yellow-and-green-phases-of-reopening/

alot of good news there!!

thanks again Ed!

Maybe we can change the name of this thread to "Carlisle is NOT canceled" or I can start a new thread. Then IF something does change, we can change the name of the thread, delete it or something. It's getting harder and harder to stay ahead of the rumors.

Ed

Guys... I changed the title of the thread...How's that?

That's awesome. Thank you!!

Ed

Random tip for you Ed....

You can reply to the thread with the Edited title to keep the thread title going or Edit the thread title in your replies.

So the buildings on the fairgrounds are closed?

Buildings will be OPEN and will follow current CDC Guidelines...just like all other businesses in buildings (Walmart, grocery stores, etc).

Ed

From the Gov's statement "Businesses that operate these outdoor recreational activities may resume operations but may not operate indoor spaces for public or visitor use other than restrooms and ticketing and entry locations."


How does this allow the buildings to be open ????

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OK, so I have 7 vendor spaces in row P, far corner by gate 7. Lots of shade for a good part of the day and I always rent at least a 20X30 tent, draws a lot of shade tree lookers.
My question is how to keep people from huddling up in the shade?

Ed

My question is are the display building open when the gov's news release says different?

Is anybody selling a Mopar logo face mask at the show?

i don't know about at the show, if there will be one, but mopar collectors guide has them for sale now. they are in the latest addition.
$14.95 plus shipping. [of course.]

I don’t go to this show but saw this on Facebook tonight

Face masks will be fun in July!

It states that a facemask or shield must be worn to enter, so that's what I will do, wear one to enter. After that, it's coming off.

Going to be some interesting tan lines this year. Shirtless guys (who should not be shirtless) wearing a mask. And imagine how nasty the masks will be by shows end.

I remember about 5 years ago it being 103 and I had to rotate through the 3 shirts I had while the others dried out. I agree, masks in July would suck.

Luckily ours is a family business so at the shop here we dont need masks but I cant see an easy way to keep everyone safe going to the show. We are going to pass this year and just pay for our spots. Hopefully things were be closer to normal next year.

Good luck to all!

That was one brutal weekend. Shoe soles were sticking to the hot asphalt. To top it off, I only located ONE hose/faucet spot on entire swap to hose-off with. You think the SHOW PEOPLE would have had enough sense to provide more or ANYTHING for people to cool off with.

US CANADIAN border closed until 7/21


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/border-covid-extension-july-1.5613854

Carlisle may be considered Essential Business ;-)

my concern is vendors wont show up

I am not going this year.
I have 2 of my 7 vendor spaces leased to a friend.
So I have 5 spaces in row P216 to P220 to lease if any one is interested

Ed

I personally believe but could be wrong that the attendance is going to be way down and the vendors are also going to be way down.I usually go 3 day's but this year either 1 day or none and that also is what a friend is doing!!!!!

That’s personal responsibility, not a responsibility of the show.

Even if the covid stuff cleared up, I would still think the attendance would be there but with the economy the way it is people would not spend a lot of money.

https://www.fox43.com/article/news/...521-62c7e201-72a4-4a2a-9eb6-e8102fbabfe2

https://www.abc27.com/news/local/ca...h-files-lawsuit-against-carlisle-events/

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/...0k-from-attending-carlisle-car-show.html

https://cumberlink.com/news/local/c...6019b2b-1a0e-5a9c-bac1-c6a272446eda.html

https://www.erienewsnow.com/story/4...ks-court-to-shut-down-carlisle-auto-show

i think an argument on Carlisle's behalf would be, they have dozens of acres, why should they have to be limited to same count of 250 people when another venue, say a parking lot of a small retail store has the same restriction. it doesn't make sense

Servicing and meeting the needs/whims of attendees however is how a show sustains, grows or declines, so everybody gets to make their own decision as their own responsibility.

Personal Responsibility...there is a couple of words I do not hear very often anymore.

Because it is always directed at others, never at one's self, ie, everybody scores a 100 when grading their own spelling bee.

Here is another link from one of our local Central PA news stations (8 Lancaster)
https://www.wgal.com/article/pennsy...ts-to-shut-down-spring-carlisle/32893124

It didn't take Wolf long to start swinging wood... knew it would happen.
Hopefully it gets spanked down by the courts like other things he tried the last 3months.

Wolf & the he/she are talking about Spring Carlisle right now live on TV... 3:40pm
Said they expect to see this SHUT DOWN soon... as it does not meet "THEIR" clearly defined "250" guidelines.
Also said his "Walking in the protests with Thousands of people" was "IMPORTANT"... apparently Carlisle is not.

I hope they are able to hold the show regardless of the politics involved . Thousands of people attending the event and spending money to boost the local economy isn't important? I have however notified them for a refund of which they are doing and canceled my hotel room. With everything thats going on and the fact I injured my knee last week I will not be attending this year or be able to race Friday evening at South Mountain which is the highlight of my Chryslers at Carlisle weekend

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/...4MQfldO8Uw-86RN_TLK4Hixcm2feIWcVQFRhg-Wg

Looks like they got a Judge that ain't buying the whole "But Wolf attending large Protests was more important" angle...
GOOD!!!

Hope it goes in Carlisle's favor today.

We will have watch and see what Fridays court date brings.

Are you serious???? 100deg day with people out in the open walking, carrying stuff, & most up in the years. A MEGA $$$ show & they can't provide a simple hose, sprinkler, etc.? Yeah Right! Guess they'll "Hop" right on it, when people start dropping in the aisles. To me it shows: lack of preparation (hot days forecast) or a total disregard for the attendees' well being. .

This was also being shared on Facebook yesterday;

Video of the crowd this morning shown on local news from that area. Lots of vendors it looks like. No face masks except the news guy

https://www.wgal.com/article/hearin...g-carlisle-ends-with-no-ruling/32906415#

https://www.abc27.com/news/local/ca...-events-dept-of-health-reach-settlement/

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/...9R2XYdBIbY4VrYDO-HXGxym8vYA4dLXENr2Y3_w4

Amazing what money will do!!!!!!!!!

That is one ugly shemale!

YES it is !!!

I wish I could have been in the court room gallery for that one! Technically it sounds like the judge made the defendants argument for them and that's not exactly what judges are supposed to be doing. The only thing more entertaining would have been a summary dismissal for the suit being frivolous and the DOH not having a leg to stand on.

Thinking about making the trip out for the first time. Can anyone tell me if it's all swap meet style parts or if there will be vendors there? I'm getting ready to place a fairly large order to Year One and Classic Industries for e body parts and wasn't sure if I should wait and try to grab them from vendors to save shipping. Wasn't able to find a vendor list online.

Neither of those vendors come to Carlisle.

Plenty of vendors.

Ignore the two you mentioned and try Dante, he is a member here and he goes to Carlisle.

www.dantesparts.com

Dante's pretty cool year one used to be at Carlisle years ago.

Year One WILL be on the Midway this year. But they don't bring product when they attend shows so you'll want to call them to see if they will bring a pre-paid order.

Classic Industries came a couple of times but it got too expensive to make the trip from California.

Ed

Can you please elaborate on this? What were the financial terms of the settlement?

Ed

Just figured since there was no word on how they settled i assumed the goverment got some green from Carlisle to carry on with the shows!!! Let's face it today everything in this world is based off of money!!!

Just lots of legal fees. The transcript is online and I think it tells a lot about how it went down.

Will the show have a General Lee section this year or will they be told to leave or cover the roof up? I am not trying to be funny I am asking a legitimate question.

" .....I don't believe the DOH has the authority to close down a business...' I like going to Carlisle as much as anyone, but I think this State Rep ought to think before she engages her mouth. I certainly would hope the Dept of Health would have the ability to shut down a business, particularly a restaurant. If she's right then I won't be eating anywhere within the State of Pennsylvania...

........Just lots of legal fees. The transcript is online and I think it tells a lot about how it went down.......

Can someone post a link to this. I searched all the key words and found nothing.

We are not imposing anything on the General Lees at the show. They have their class as always. We are not doing anything different this year.

Thank you, I appreciate the reply.

So what are the general guidelines for the show based on the current environment?
Link available?

https://www.carlisleevents.com/covid19

The show is indeed still on, and i can't wait to go! Got our confirmation today. My family and I will be there with our purple 1967 Fury 4 door sedan in c-body modified, if you would like please stop by and say hello, hope to see you there. On a separate note, I do have some parts for sale if anyone is interested, please look in the c-body and '70 and back b-body forums and pm me with your needs

"Show field spacing being considered"

How's that going to work out?
Especially over in the modern car & truck sections, where it's been over booked for years. The only open spaces there, were where guys were somehow allowed to set up personal tents(not club tents) in car spaces of the modern challenger section across from pavilion B.

I got my stickers today for truck & mopar10 (Figured I'd bring it for 10yr anniversary... 1st time back in 7yrs) but seriously considering canceling out. I usually take my Dad, and he's 82 know... Probably not a good idea to bring him, and subject him to wearing a mask in 90degree weather... After radiation & chemo killed off the immune system, I'm probably not a low risk candidate anymore either. Plus wasn't looking forward to fighting for a car space in the modern section on the slippery hill anyway... even more so if there are less spaces available.

Was looking forward to it this year before all the Covid ...

It may be less crowded just due to the circumstances.

There will be no changes to the Showfield layout. Cars will be parked as usual. It's not like we park all of the cars side by side as they arrive. Car 1 might be an A-Body that parks near Gate 3 while Car 2 is a B-Body that parks closer to Guest Services...hundreds of feet apart! If you do arrive at the same time as another car in your class, just wait for whoever parks first to exit their vehicle. It's no different than you would do in any parking situation. It's really that simple

See you all next week!!

Ed

ED , 2 questions, where is the online transcsript of what 'went' down' in court? What was the turnout like for Chevy last weekend?

What is the refund policy for this year do to Covid..
I was holding out hope, but the wife's Dr just put the final nail in the coffin today, by assigning previously(covid) postponed surgery, for Monday July 13th. That means she has to get a covid test Friday 10th and then self quarantine until Monday. Doc said neither of us should go out in public the preceding week so, as to limit possible exposure, & not cross contaminate each other. That's probably doubly so, for a large gathering attended by people coming from all across the country.

2 spots in the show field...
Can I just get them transferred to 2021?
What's the best # to call... and time of day.

Ed - Any observations/comments on how the Chevrolet Nationals went last weekend? Thanks

i was there. attendence seemed to be down about 20 percent from last time i was there in 2016

This just happened today, thought I would share as it will more than likely affect folks that are going to Carlisle.

https://explorevenango.com/wolf-masks-are-now-mandatory-in-all-public-spaces-in-pa/

Just checked the extended forecast. Mid 90's. Going to have to cut a hole in my mask to drink my beer. Will have to talk with the wife and see if it is really worth going at this point.
This new law says "all public spaces". Isn't the Fairgrounds privately owned? would that make them exempt from this?

[quote=Warhawk]This just happened today, thought I would share as it will more than likely affect folks that are going to Carlisle.

https://explorevenango.com/wolf-masks-are-now-mandatory-in-all-public-spaces-in-pa/ [/quote

If the mask rule applies to the fairgrounds then that would be tie breaker for me on going or not this year.

On wearing masks - If you read the new PA rules the exceptions are still
where you can social distance



So sitting under the Moparts tent sitting 6 Feet apart no mask needed , we will spread the chairs out

They are not very specific, so......

Make it fun. www.amazon.com/s?k=adult+scary+mask&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

Protest in a fun way. ;-)

(health risks are serious and must be taken as needed of course)

For those still going...
Carlisle could place a Camaro just inside the gate entrance...
Entrants bring there own paint & spray something on the Camaro, then toss can in trash.
They are then officially a "Protester" and EXEMPT from all Corona rules

Well because of the latest face mask order from the Gov. my friend that has 5 vendor spots has just told me he is not coming plus 5 other friends from other states are not coming. I hope this is not going to be the pattern!!!!!!!

Dodge will be doing Hellcat rides

I will have four open spaces in the vendor swap area unless my brother decides to go. He will most likely be skipping for sure if the masks are mandatory.

Good wasn't sure with the pandemic Dodge would be there

will walk through gate with mask, once inside it comes off!

^
yeppers

We will be there with a big display as usual. We'll drive in with the mask, then take it off. I'll be beside my Dad all weekend to keep him spaced. Gotta protect the old man, but no way he isn't going to this show.

no way im getting those trill ride cars, if one rider has the virus you are screwed

I can't fly in because the US border is still closed.
And we have a very low rate of infected people in germany

Carsten

Just got the call from Mr. Norm, he will not be attending this year. At 84 years old his family talked him out of it. If there is anything you want from his swag let me know before Tuesday and I can drop buy and pick it up, if not you can still order from his website.

The attitude you profess is why many of us will not be going this year.

i just checked the forecast and they are calling for mid 90 and 40% chance of thunderstorms on Fri. and 80% on Sat and Sun.Between the forecast and the empty vendor spots it sounds real exciting this year. One nice thing if you rent a golf cart you won,t have to worry about running someone over!!!!

Vendor spaces E-141 & E-142 will have a large mix of A, B, C and E -body parts as well as DeSoto, Plymouth, Dodge & Chrysler parts from the 1940s through the Forward Look years.

100s of items are priced at $1.00 so they can find happy new homes.

Other items for more, but all priced to sell.

Better have a few rolls of quarters, as I'm sure you're going to get some lowball offers, being the aisles are likely going to be a tad sparse.

If the habitual negative minded people like you stay away this may be the BEST Carlisle ever!

I am expecting it to be a lot less than normal, but I’m still looking forward to it!

Just kidding, but my mind went here when I read Barry’s reply....

You tell em Barry!! ^^^^^^^^^

I'm not expecting a record-breaking year, but I will thoroughly enjoy every old Mopar I see!
Especially after being cooped up in the house and working from home since F'in March!

You know, it's best to wait/take maybe 14 days before one "counts their chickens", to fall back on time honored metaphors, and COVID I hear, is totally repelled by optimism, so you might be in the clear already.

Have a great a Great Carlisle.

It seems Gov Wolf like's that 14day number too...

Ok how is this supposed to work now. Is it a recommondation or rule? I see this text on their own site: "If you have traveled, or plan to travel, to an area where there are high amounts of COVID-19 cases, it is recommended that you stay at home for 14 days upon return to Pennsylvania. If you travel to the following states, you will need to quarantine for 14 days upon return:"
https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/coronavirus/Pages/Travelers.aspx

I am from a "safe state" but meeting with others on the list at show.

If you were traveling to Hawaii, you had to quarantine for 14 days. Your hotel kept an eye on you leaving. Some people didn't do that and they got arrested.

Wife and I tapped out. One thing I hadn't thought about was returning from the show. My wife wondered if we should self quarantine for 14 days when we get home. I hadn't really thought of that. I can't miss that much work and she usually cooks supper a couple nights a week for her Dad who is 88 and still lives in his own house. She was worried about possibly transmitting the virus to him. Just not worth the risk this year. Really suxs, will be only the third or fourth time I have missed the show since 1995 but I have to look at the big picture and not just think about myself, but other people it could impact.

What happens if one travels thru any of those states to attend the show?

Seems like the above pulled the rug out for those wishing to attend from outside PA.

So...What is everyone looking for at Carlisle and what are you bringing? Don't let Negative Nancy ruin this thread!

Best to deflect than face reality. I don't make the rules, I got no dog in this fight, I'm just not afraid to speak my mind, and get labeled a "troll", a "negative Nancy", etc for it, guess I got "balls" to those afraid of reality?

I think the whole point here is really, in your words, "what is one bringing to Carlisle?"

So would Gov cryin WOLF accept THIS QUARANTINE OPTION .....

Selling or renting THIS at the PA border or at the Carlisle main gate ??!!

They will still try.

If the negative minded people in the world would focus on positives instead, the whole world would be a better place!

Yet the negative minded spew their negative comments online and even in a thread about a show they were not coming to anyway.

Negative people want everyone to share their misery.

Stay positive!

But T and A ... is that quarantine order true or not ?

If the Hells angels pulled up to an event, i seriously doubt someone would demand they wear a mask for fear of infecting others.
Stay home if you Don't want to get infected.
don't fly on plane cause it might crash.
everyone doesn't need to told ,wear a mask, wash your hands etc.
go tell the rioters! let us know how that turns out!

You know this how?

Sounds rather "negative" to me, but I maybe wrong if you can prove your contention.

Don't need me to prove you are negative!

This is a Serious and I mean serious, dangerous type of virus 13,000 deaths in nj alone!To make jokes ,cry about not wearing a mask I can see some of you don't care.And that's sad ...my wife and are in level 3 surgical masks for over 8 hours a day.No car or part or show is worth it!We are in health care.Please everyone be safe!

Anyone know whats going on with RT81 south where the fork is. Closed today before Harrisburg and still in red on Mapquest
Coming down RT 81 tomorrow morning

Here you go:

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/...-of-interstate-81-in-lebanon-county.html

Thank you. Hope it opens up soon
Bob

Yeah....to the really old and really sick, sure.
For the rest of the 97 % of the country, it is just a cold.

[quote] Yeah....to the really old and really sick, sure.
For the rest of the 97 % of the country, it is just a cold.
quote]
Wow, you need a reality check.

[quote=70sixpkRT][quote] Yeah....to the really old and really sick, sure.
For the rest of the 97 % of the country, it is just a cold.
quote]
Wow, you need a reality check. [/quote
San Francisco, so no more on my way to Carlilse...

Does anyone know if Dodge will be attending the show this year?
Thanks,
Jim

I followed one of their trucks into Carlisle this morning on my way to work...so I imagine they'll have some sort of presence.

They will be there along with the Hellcat thrill rides

P.S.Don't forget the kickoff at the convention center

It does effect people of other ages too

I have gone every year since I first went to the show in 1992. I have vended every year since 1994. This is the first year since then that I have not been at the show! It sucked going to work today, instead of the show. I will be back next year!

Explain how I am wrong.
What demographic is the overwhelming majority of the cases? Be fair, don't stray from the published stats. It is the elderly with health problems. Not to say that they are expendable, don't misunderstand me but it isn't even half of one percent of people in their 30s dying from this.
I'll admit that there are many people over 70 that attend these Mopar shows so I can see some credence to caution but my statement stands. If you are under 70 and are otherwise healthy, not only is the risk of catching the virus fairly low, the chance of dying from it are much lower.

Well my day would have been a whole lot better if I was at Carlisle! I got up at 4.30 am to go to work to paint jail cells, and while I was driving to work, a rock broke the windshield on my Ram, so much for trying to make a few extra bucks, instead of spending all my money at the show! I hope everyone who goes to the show has a better day than I am having.

My buddies from TN are there and stated the corral was a little light.
But that is the area I would have expected to be hit the hardest at the show.


Wish I was there feels very weird being home at this time of year instead of Carlisle.

Had the same feeling yesterday morning driving into work... kept thinking that I would have been on the Ohio Turnpike at that time with a good friend heading to Carlisle to see a bunch more good friends.

Good i only live 60 miles away because the car corral was really light as was the show field and in the vendor area alot of empty spaces. a few vendors that i know said they felt that the crowd was about 50% and the vendors about the same. There were a few of the bigger vendors who had signs at there spot that said not here this year but to call them for your needs! So i covered everything in one day so no need to return tomorrow!

I went today and it was much slower than years past. I enjoyed less crowds, but there were also less vendors. It was a quick wait for the thrill ride also compared to years past. I rode in a Redeye, man that car was fast and the ride was even faster. The Ford and Chevy guys will have more time in their cars and less thrill to complete the ride...

Dang - i so wanted to go this weekend, to get out, see cars, and support Carlisle. Tree trimmers and work tomorrow, spreading my father's ashes with family finally after months of waiting on Sunday. Take lots of pics everyone!

just got home after 2 days, great weekend, nice to see everyone come out. of course some less people. still great.
lots of vendors cars etc..

considering the the situation, it was awesome, larger than I expected...Well worth it !

I agree , the weather was good, there was enough cars and parts to see, and the best thing was meeting up with friends I only get to see once in a while.. I'm glad I went !

great turn out considering all. Car corral was down the most of anything, but I saw several cars with sold on them. Some I thought were pretty decent deals

Still can't believe I did not have my camera!! I was able to use my pitbike to get around thank goodness! My ankle is JUNK!!

I definitely would have walked around it I lived 45 min away too or if I still lived in York.

Also looked like everyone skirted disaster where that tropical depression off the east cost stopped INCHES from the Carlisle to the east and the cold front/thunderstorms to the west that laid down 3" of rain here in MI didnt pass through.

Having a Senior Moment there Al??

Glad it was a nice weekend. Sometimes hard to find in July. I wanted to go but it was best for me to stay home. Looking forward to 2021.

I decided to skip the hotel this year and commute from Glen Burnie on Friday and Saturday, so that was 400 miles on the Challenger in two days. I was glad my class was at the bottom of the hill this year!

I concentrated on taking photos this year and ended up with about 20 more than last year, which is pretty good considering I was there all three days last year. Still somehow managed to come home without a shot of the Landy Duster, even though I took three shots of the '63 Dodge lightweight that was only 15 feet away in the same tent! D'oh. My biggest delay was the 45 minutes or so I spent on my ballot Saturday morning.

The car corral was pretty thin, as others have mentioned, but the showfield--at least on Saturday--still seemed pretty healthy. Not as full as the last several years, but certainly a respectable turnout. Lots of cars I hadn't seen before. Sure, it wasn't another record-breaking weekend, but it was still a good-sized show, and worth the trip.

I believe the highlight for me was i just happened to
be in the tent with the 63 lightweight and Landy's duster when a guy got in the Duster and fired it up. It was great and even shook the ground outside the tent!!!!

Ditto! I thought it was success all things considered.

I was there Friday and it was more attended than I expected. I thought it was managed very well by Carlisle.

Did anyone catch the date for next year?

July 9th - 11th 2021

I thought she packed it and she thought I grabbed it......................
Imagine me without a camera!

I sold so much on Friday that I basically took Saturday off. Since I am just getting over Sciatica I rented one of the scooters and was able to see the entire show for the first time in a couple decades! Only bought two part, one of which was a set of tires near Gate 3 from one of the maintenance workers at the fairground for my truck! Great seeing everyone, though I missed talking with the Canadians and peeps from across the pond. I am thinking if everything opens up, the Mopar Nats will be a lot bigger than the last few years for sure!

Right now they are planning to keep the border closed until end of august at least. So frustrating.