Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there?

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When it comes to blackout paint on the core support they were all treated the same across the years and the product lines. It was strictly a "lick and a promise" process.

I was told that it was done by a guy in a pit as the car passed over his head and the results seem to bare those facts out. It was a crappy haphazzard job that was done at best.

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Nope, not the same on A-Bodys! Because of the other post I was pretty sure he meant 68-70 B-Body's, but just being sure. The PROCESS was the same, like you said a guy in a pit, but there are differences on what was assembled when the process was done.

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valance..

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other side.

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Are you looking for A, B, or E body pics?

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This is a survivor picture that Bill sent to me of his '69 RR survivor car. If a painter was in a pit beneath the car how in the world did he get paint on the bottom lip of the radiator support? Was there a guy in a pit and one on top? Inquiring minds want to know.

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Here's a question, if yours came like that and you were doing a rotisserie paint job, would you duplicate the terrible looking overspray paint above the lip? If you duplicated it in a resto, would you keep a photo of it to show the judges that it came that way? If you didn't know it came that way, would you want yours to look like that because it might have come that way? Same way of thinking about the top of your grill
support. I don't see any overspray on top of the grill
support in the photo...that was your original question. Nobody has acknowledged seeing one with the overspray like yours. Are you really satisfied with having yours that way?

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I could post over 10,000 pictures on here of details, but few people would appreciate them

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Nah... just burn me a DVD with the pics and mail
'em over... I'd appreciate them.

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Ditto,,,, 1000%

and while your burning one ,
you have my address

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I had always thought F8 was one of those colors that sometimes didn't get the black out?

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Anything is possible, but we had an in-depth discussion a while back on this and nobody could come up with an F8 survivor that didn't get the blackout. Mine certainly had it.

It may have been a plant or date thing, but all I know for sure is that I've seen several F8 survivors WITH the blackout and never one without.



Dave

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It was always my understanding there was someone down below that shot the black out. I had a member @ Cuda-Challenger forum that worked at one of the factories until '74 tell me this.

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Mike,

No the person shooting the paint on to the core support was not in a pit. The paint booth was a down draft system with water rush undernear the car to take away the overspray. Of course they had metal grates on the floor so you wouldn't fall in. Air was force from the ceiling thru filters and it pushed the overspay downward into the water. It work really well, little to no overspray. The main painter would sometimes spray the car with out a mask so he could smoke! The person spraying the core support had bend down/over and shoot it under the slight opened hood (it was on it second latch/catch). Hence, the the 45 degree angle was from bending your arm up at its ellbow. Also, it was pretty much the last thing done before the car went into the oven. This was before ergonomics was even heard of or invented. Of course this was done while the car was moving at 58-64 cars an hour for both of the assembly lines. Hope this helps.
See ya, Snowdoggie

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Hi everyone,

472 R/T SE sent me a PM and said I should get invovled in the thread. I'm known as Snowdog on the Cuda/Challenger website. Here’s recap of what I posted before on CC’s site.

I don't know if this helps, but I actually worked at Dodge Main back in 76 when they were making the Dodge Aspen and the Plymouth Volare (please, no singing). For a couple of days I filled in on the paint line and actually painted the black on the core support behind the grill. It was not painted from a pit, since the paint booth was a downdraft system and there was rushing water underneath the car to take away the paint overspray. It worked quite well (no pun intended). So if it was painted from a pit (which it wasn't) you would have had to been standing in the water to paint the core support black. Basically, you had to crouch down and spray the core support the best could while the car was moving. You also have to be careful not to spray the underside of the hood, but the downdraft system worked so well that was usually not a problem. This would also explain why the top of the core support is not painted black to well. The black was painted right after the guys painted the cars; I was working right next to them. Granted, it could have been different for Cudas and Challenger, but I don't think the paint line changed that much. To answer someones question on vehicle height, it was on what we used to call a Paint dolly or truck and it was about normal height maybe a little bit higher, 6-10 inches taller. Also, I told only to paint the light colors, but I would paint anything that wasn't black. I though it would look better, so I painted the dark greens and dark brown. So as you can see it varied from person to person. My dad worked there for 30+ years as a pipefitter and my brother worked there in the summer during his college years, so he got to see the real muscle cars in the early 70’s. Hope this helps, Tervuren

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What year & model is this?

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To your other observation about the painted tag but unpainted screws. Lynch rd tags were hanging in the car, some got paint, some got some paint, some got no paint, they were installed on the inner fender after the paint process which is why the screws are not painted and the tag is not bent.

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Yep; what John said.

Dave