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Hood pin lanyard lengths

Posted By: NOrrTH

Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/12/11 06:47 PM

I have a '71 GTX non-rubber bumper car. I bought the hood pin kit from the Chrysler dealership "Authentic Mopar Reproduction" part. What an unbelievable POS this kit is. I wont even go into details of how bad it is as there is too much wrong with it.

To the point, the lanyards that came with it are exactly 24 7/8" center eyelet to eyelet. When installed, that length is fairly tight on the bumer and leads to scratching. One of the reasons its extra tight is that the hood pin clips are upright and pull the lanyards further.

So I ordered a new set of cables and clips from Dale's Cuda Shop and they sent me 23" cables and the correct lay-flat clips. Now there's no way in hell 23" lanyards would fit my car unless I screwed them into a different hole under my hood. I called up Dale's and said "you guys sent me the 23" and I need the 25"" She said, "we always send out the 23" and the 25" are for Superbirds"

Well it just so happens that the Restoration Shop that just finished a superb job on my car, sent me a surprise gift in the mail..NOS lanyards and clips. These lanyards are exactly 26" eyelet to eyelet; part no. 3579673

Dale's Cuda Shop only sells 6" 9" 18" 23" and 25"

So, does anyone know the correct length for a '71 GTX? And out of curiosity, a rubber bumper GTX and Superbird? What the heck is going on? Am I mounting them in the wrong hole? A little screw hole near the hood pin. Do they not route around the front of the bumper? I've seen some pictures of people routing them between the bumper and the body.

I must say that Dale's has been excellent to deal with and the high quality repop parts are almost an exact match other than the length of course.
Posted By: floyd

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/12/11 07:57 PM

I saved these diagrams from somewhere. Maybe they'll help regarding the question of where the cable mounts. The model year isn't apparent in the pub, but the picture of the RR/GTX looks like a 71 (maybe)

Attached picture 6822888-hoodpindiagram.jpeg
Posted By: floyd

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/12/11 07:58 PM

number 2

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Posted By: floyd

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/12/11 07:59 PM

last one

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Posted By: NOrrTH

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/12/11 08:16 PM

Thank you but the pictures aren't comming up on my computer
Posted By: floyd

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/12/11 10:46 PM

not sure why they aren't working for you - they are for me. I just sent you an email with the pics to the account listed in your profile.
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/12/11 11:54 PM

Quote:

I saved these diagrams from somewhere. Maybe they'll help regarding the question of where the cable mounts. The model year isn't apparent in the pub, but the picture of the RR/GTX looks like a 71 (maybe)



Floyd those pics look like 70 to me. There was no Coronet R/T for 71.
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/12/11 11:56 PM

North,

Can you post a picture of the laynard location as you have it now.

Thanks
M
Posted By: NOrrTH

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/13/11 01:41 AM

Quote:

North,

Can you post a picture of the laynard location as you have it now.

Thanks
M



My pleasure.

No way in hell will 23" lanyards reach the hood pins

25" is snug

26" NOS 3579673 is on the loose side.

I dont see the 26" lengths being repop'd anywhere so I dont know what you'd do if you had a Superbird or rubber bumper car.

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Posted By: Morty426

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/13/11 04:29 PM

North,

The location looks correct. I don't think 1" is enough to go from snug to loose. There should be some amount of slop in the cable so that it makes a loop.

M
Posted By: 440beep

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/13/11 05:16 PM

North You have it in the wrong location, it should be from the hood pin 33/4 inches forward from the hood pin. My car is a factory air grabber and that's where mine are
Posted By: jbc426

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/13/11 05:41 PM

Quote:

North You have it in the wrong location, it should be from the hood pin 33/4 inches forward from the hood pin. My car is a factory air grabber and that's where mine are



These pictures conflict with how mine are/were mounted, as my 1970 e-body had the pin holes oriented from side to side NOT front to back. I've seen them oriented from side to side on lots of early press release photos too.
Posted By: NOrrTH

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/13/11 06:13 PM

Quote:

North You have it in the wrong location, it should be from the hood pin 33/4 inches forward from the hood pin. My car is a factory air grabber and that's where mine are



Thats the only hole that the self tapping screw would fit. Check out the picture of this other car below.

That hole also corresponds with everything I've read and seen so far. I think its more than 3 3/4" inches closer to the front of the car and therefore would make the lanyard looser, not tighter.

Do you have a picture of where yours mounts?

Thanks for the input.

Attached picture 6824550-Hoodpincablelocation.jpg
Posted By: NOrrTH

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/13/11 06:22 PM

Quote:

North,

The location looks correct. I don't think 1" is enough to go from snug to loose. There should be some amount of slop in the cable so that it makes a loop.

M



Snug was using the incorrect upright pin clips ("Authentic Mopar Restoration Parts") that pulled the cable tighter, not the correct NOS lay flat clips. The question is, 25" or 26"? For the 23" to fit, you'd have to mount the end of the cable under the header panel. 23" is probably for '70 B bodys or E bodys.
Posted By: 440beep

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/13/11 08:50 PM



Posted By: NOrrTH

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/13/11 09:23 PM

Strange, thats a totally different fender to cowl support.

Yours doesn't have the factory holes and has a long groove down the middle opposed to the ridge. The factory stamped hole in mine where yours is, is too large for the sheet metal screw.

Maybe your car is an ealier build. Mines a Sept 70 build and that blue car is a '72 model.

Oh well, close enough. Thanks guys.
Posted By: 440beep

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/13/11 09:30 PM

Quote:

Strange, thats a totally different fender to cowl support.

Yours doesn't have the factory holes and has a long groove down the middle opposed to the ridge. The factory stamped hole in mine where yours is, is too large for the sheet metal screw.

Maybe your car is an ealier build. Mines a Sept 70 build and that blue car is a '72 model.

Oh well, close enough. Thanks guys.




my 71 gtx oct 28 1970
Posted By: cuda-sweden

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/14/11 07:49 PM

hej,could you post a pic of those incorrect upright clips,thanks
Posted By: 72roadrunnergtx

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/15/11 04:39 PM

Quote:

hej,could you post a pic of those incorrect upright clips,thanks


Posted By: NOrrTH

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/15/11 05:37 PM

If you look at Plymouth's "Rapid Transit System" brochure for 1971, on the options page, it shows the flat pin clips. However, they have them shown in the verical position, not laying flat. That is, the clip is clipped over the top of the hood pin, not sideways.
Posted By: NOrrTH

Re: Hood pin lanyard lengths - 09/15/11 06:04 PM

Quote:

I saved these diagrams from somewhere. Maybe they'll help regarding the question of where the cable mounts. The model year isn't apparent in the pub, but the picture of the RR/GTX looks like a 71 (maybe)



The model year is 1970. Thanks for trying. Appreciate it very much.
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