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Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100
Posted By: Moparnut426
Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/01/11 06:54 PM
Uncle Chris is restoring his 64.5 HPP dodge pickup. His was ordered without the pushbutton 727, but has a cable shifter in the center of the dash. The bezel there is messed up, and it apperintly is totally unique because I have located 4 bezels for him, and all 4 are mint, but different that his origional. The spacing is different from park to reverse, and a little bit different from reverse to neutral. His has more of a space that the other bezels I have found. Im stumped, as I have found 5 trucks that are 64-67 auto 2wd trucks 3/4 tons and 1/2 tons. This truck is powered by a 426 wedge and a 727. The trucks I have found the others in were 318 but with a small block 727, so the throw in the tranny should be the same. Im stumped.
Does anyone on here know the difference between bezels, or accually why there is a difference. And if anyone on here can help me locate one.
Kasey
Posted By: magnumcharger
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/01/11 07:16 PM
Please post pictures of these bezels!
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/01/11 08:02 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-A-1...=item3cbb3eebc5This shifter is similar, and the bezel is close but wrong. The bezel on Chris's truck matches the curve of the dash, and mounts the the face of the dash, not a flat plate like the 100 vans.
Kasey
Posted By: domingo
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/01/11 09:07 PM
FAB TIME!
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/01/11 09:43 PM
The bezel is pot metal, and thee truck is 100% origional, and 1 of less than 12 built like this, and the only one that we know of built like this, Custom cab, 2 tone black with white top, long box, large window cab, has a headliner, and factory equipped sun tach.
So chopping somethign up to work isnt possible. I know there has to be one somewhere, just where its at is a mistery. Who rebuilts pot metal parts??
kasey
Posted By: moparmarks
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/01/11 10:04 PM
My 67 D200 has that shifter. It's in storage and I don't have any pics. So the truck must be different than the A100.
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/01/11 10:16 PM
Dodge used that style of shifter up to 68, so it may be correct. Is it something for sale if its correct?
Kasey
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/02/11 03:29 PM
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/02/11 03:56 PM
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Is this thinly veiled WANT AD, in the wrong place, not working as well as you hoped ?
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/02/11 04:13 PM
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Is this thinly veiled WANT AD, in the wrong place, not working as well as you hoped ?
No John, not a want add, but more of hopeing someone knows more about it than me, and hopeing someone here might know what trucks/vans this particilar part may also be found on. I have been looking for 3 years now, and have only found 3 bezels, all incorrect. I have also heard rumors some low line C bodies, and Darts came with something similar. The truck is worth too much to cobble something for the shifter. The poster about the d200 is nice, and I just asked him if its correct if it was an offer to sell it. Thats all... Not a thinly veiled anything.
Kasey
Posted By: sixpackgut
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/02/11 04:43 PM
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Is this thinly veiled WANT AD, in the wrong place, not working as well as you hoped ?
so what if it is?
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/02/11 05:03 PM
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Is this thinly veiled WANT AD, in the wrong place, not working as well as you hoped ?
so what if it is?
It's not the first and it won't be the last ...
Posted By: az426john
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/02/11 05:40 PM
To avoid this just PM the guy and take it off line.
Posted By: autoxcuda
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/02/11 05:42 PM
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Uncle Chris is restoring his 64.5 HPP dodge pickup. His was ordered without the pushbutton 727, but has a cable shifter in the center of the dash. The bezel there is messed up, and it apperintly is totally unique because I have located 4 bezels for him, and all 4 are mint, but different that his origional. The spacing is different from park to reverse, and a little bit different from reverse to neutral. His has more of a space that the other bezels I have found. Im stumped, as I have found 5 trucks that are 64-67 auto 2wd trucks 3/4 tons and 1/2 tons. This truck is powered by a 426 wedge and a 727. The trucks I have found the others in were 318 but with a small block 727, so the throw in the tranny should be the same. Im stumped.
Does anyone on here know the difference between bezels, or accually why there is a difference. And if anyone on here can help me locate one.
Kasey
So what you are looking for is just what other applications used this bezel?
Post a picture of the messed up one you allready have and that will help tons so people can match it up. I would think this would not be special just to this truck.
Posted By: moparmarks
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/02/11 05:45 PM
Common in the A100. Not so in the trucks.
Posted By: moparmarks
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/02/11 05:50 PM
OP asked if there was different bezel for trucks. Shouldn't be a problem with that. John was probably boared for a moment.
He did PM me after I posted my reply. I'm not able to help him right now so he's back to square one.
Posted By: moparmike1
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/02/11 05:51 PM
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Is this thinly veiled WANT AD, in the wrong place, not working as well as you hoped ?
so what if it is?
It's not the first and it won't be the last ...
The OP needs to know what other applications and years used this bezel so he knows what options he has to look at. It's a WANT AD for information so he knows what to look for and post the appropriate ad where it belongs. This isn't a difficult concept to follow.
Posting a picture of this bezel and the dash would help quite a bit.
Mike.
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/02/11 06:03 PM
Mike,
Uncle Chris is currently in Europe on a tour riding Harleys over there with his dad. I kinda wanted to suprise him with finding one. Unfortunatly he is in Torrington wyoming where the truck and parts are, so I cant get a good shot of his origional bezel. Ill search in my email from him to see if I have one, I may not, so Ill have to get a picture from him when he returns on the 17th of this month. He has been planning and saving for this trip with his dad for 4 or 5 years, so I just wnat to do something special for him by finding one. HOPEFULLY I have a picture of his origional one.
Kasey
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/03/11 03:00 PM
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The OP needs to know what other applications and years used this bezel so he knows what options he has to look at. It's a WANT AD for information so he knows what to look for and post the appropriate ad where it belongs. This isn't a difficult concept to follow.
Posting a picture of this bezel and the dash would help quite a bit.
Mike.
It may have STARTED that way ... and like you said ... it's not a hard concept to follow 
Posted By: chrisf
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/03/11 03:40 PM
go to the sweptline websites, you will get more usefull info than you will get here
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/03/11 04:19 PM
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go to the sweptline websites, you will get more usefull info than you will get here
Been there, done that, got nada....
Kasey
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/03/11 04:30 PM
Heres the truck on the registry, I forgot Chris registered it.
In one of the pictures you can see the bezel needed.
http://benjamin_simons.tripod.com/css/65D100CSSHPP_CAlexander.htmlKasey
Posted By: michiganhotrod1
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/03/11 05:21 PM
Have you tried the sweptline club? Lots of knowledgeable people here, and a few used parts specialists.
http://www.sweptline.org/Mark
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/03/11 07:40 PM
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go to the sweptline websites, you will get more usefull info than you will get here
Been there, done that, got nada....
Kasey
Seems like you have hit all the stops , why not just send it out to have the one you have redone ?
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/03/11 10:27 PM
That question was in my origional post, I dont know where to take it to have it restored. Its a pot metal.
Kasey
Posted By: RoadRunnerJD
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/03/11 11:38 PM
Check with MCB or GCAR and see what they say. Google them.
Posted By: stateline
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/04/11 11:12 PM
How about this one ?
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Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/05/11 12:39 AM
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How about this one ?
FINALLY ... 
Posted By: In_The_Pink
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/05/11 04:22 AM
The one linked to above, listed on eBay was a shifter I pulled from a Class A motorhome, and it does use a different bezel than both A-series vans and pickups, and Sweptline era trucks.
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/05/11 05:12 AM
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How about this one ?
That one looks close. Do you have the measurements of the distance from the edge of the stop tit, and the edge of the inside bezel.
Kasey
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/05/11 04:11 PM
Is the transmission in the truck a cable shift like the pushbutton cars? If so, then you need a '64-65 shifter. I don't think the later lever shift ones are the same.
I think there was a '64 dodge truck in the junkyard on Saturday but I didn't pay attention to the shifter or if it was an automatic.
Posted By: wally426ci
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/05/11 08:23 PM
Now that I think about it, was the dash shifter available? I always see push buttons in early trucks, never seen a 68 style dash shift.
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/05/11 08:58 PM
It looks like '64 was a pushbutton shifter on the left side of the dash. This would mean that you probably have a one-year piece there.
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/05/11 10:42 PM
Accually this truck is a 64.5, and the center mounted shifter like we have was used through out the 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, and 68 trucks. I just dont know the split from the wide shift arm like we have and the narrow shift arm which seems to be more common. The mechanism has 2 cables, one for the shifting, and pne for park alone I believe. I know it was a night mare to dial inn with the shifter. Has a threaded collet, and a round dial and you adjust it like a bike clutch/brake cable in a way. It just hangs out of the tranny case and points to the rear.
Kasey
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/06/11 02:04 AM
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Accually this truck is a 64.5, and the center mounted shifter like we have was used through out the 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, and 68 trucks. I just dont know the split from the wide shift arm like we have and the narrow shift arm which seems to be more common. The mechanism has 2 cables, one for the shifting, and pne for park alone I believe. I know it was a night mare to dial inn with the shifter. Has a threaded collet, and a round dial and you adjust it like a bike clutch/brake cable in a way. It just hangs out of the tranny case and points to the rear.
Kasey
A 2-cable shifter would have last been used in 1965. The gate is probably different from the later single cable ones. The transmissions starting in 1966 are lever operated and park is engaged with the same lever that does the other gear positions.
The 1964 CSS brochure shows a push button shifter. See this page - http://www.cssregistry.com/css/broch.html
I also looked at all the 1964 trucks on that site and they all have pushbutton shifters. Some cars had console shifters for the first time in 1964 and probably the 1964 A100 but it doesn't look like pickups did.
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/06/11 04:39 PM
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Accually this truck is a 64.5, and the center mounted shifter like we have was used through out the 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, and 68 trucks. I just dont know the split from the wide shift arm like we have and the narrow shift arm which seems to be more common. The mechanism has 2 cables, one for the shifting, and pne for park alone I believe. I know it was a night mare to dial inn with the shifter. Has a threaded collet, and a round dial and you adjust it like a bike clutch/brake cable in a way. It just hangs out of the tranny case and points to the rear.
Kasey
A 2-cable shifter would have last been used in 1965. The gate is probably different from the later single cable ones. The transmissions starting in 1966 are lever operated and park is engaged with the same lever that does the other gear positions.
The 1964 CSS brochure shows a push button shifter. See this page - http://www.cssregistry.com/css/broch.html
I also looked at all the 1964 trucks on that site and they all have pushbutton shifters. Some cars had console shifters for the first time in 1964 and probably the 1964 A100 but it doesn't look like pickups did.
Like I said this truck is VERY 1 off, and rare. I know for a face that Ned, the man who ordered the truck ordered it very wierd. This truck also had a painted tranny. Bith the engine and tranny were painted chrysler engine bluegreen color. we had a guy in the registre look up the truck, and was pretty interested in the truck as it was optioned out so wierd. When we told him the tranny was painted green also, he was really interested. I have some pictures I can post.
Kasey
Posted By: In_The_Pink
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/07/11 02:04 AM
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I have some pictures I can post.
Some pictures of the bezel and shift lever would be good.
Is there a part number cast into the backside of the bezel you're looking for? 
Posted By: aquamist60
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/07/11 02:46 AM
This is taxing my memory A LOT, but I remember visiting family out of state sometime between 1965 to 1968, can't remember for sure. I saw this beautiful mid 60's Dodge truck pull out of a gas station and boil the hides like a John Force burnout. Turns out it was a 426 HP truck special. I saw one for sale on the net, don't remember which site. Maybe perhaps that is what you have and that's why it's different? Don't know, just a guess on my part. Good luck finding what you need. Seems like I may have read about them too in a Dodge pickup truck book.
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Searching for an imposible part for a 64 dodge d100 - 09/07/11 03:28 AM
This is a 426 HPP truck, and there is a picture in the thread, there is a link with the before resto pictures in it.
Kasey