1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.

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While looking for additional info to add, I found a copy of a thread I printed off MOPARTS on 6/12/2003
reply posts by the "usual suspects": Y07_A66, ph23vo, 442w30, KISSAlien, Snoopy, worthywads & formula_s

Thread was started by MoparDanny, apparently he kicked his addiction and is no longer a user.
"70 Challenger 340 with N94 Option???"
VIN# JH23H0B405538
E55 D32 J45 J81 N94 R22 V98
was listed on ebay #2419085297 at the time

excerpt from a dealer memo:

4/13/70 ... The Challenger T/A Fiberglass Hood (N94) is now available on all Challenger models with 4-barrel engines. It cannot be ordered with the Shaker Hood, Moulding Group A (A63) or with the Special Edition models. The radio antenna will be mounted on the rear quarter panel as with the T/A Package. Because of the Dull Organisol Black finish, the Hood Performance Tape Treatment (V21) will not be available.

Per the memo 440 w/SIXPACK may be questionable 2-barrel(s), but I doubt it. It would also appear that a base Challenger JH23/27 with 383 4-barrel could've been ordered. The rear mounted antenna also may have been hit or miss. The two HEMI cars were radio-less when new, and if memory serves me right the 340 car 's antenna was on the front fender same as where my car's factory antenna hole is.

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from another N94 thread on MOPARTS

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Hemi - FE5

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I purchased the car from Shafi Keisler in the mid-'90s thru an ad in Mopar Collectors Guide & have finally got it in a shop to begin its restoration.

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I'd love to see some pictures of the car's resto? planning on posting anything under the project section?


Dave

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The TX9 - "black" N94 HEMI Challenger R/T was JS23R0B336419 - Y14 "SOLD" car
(E74, D21, A33 & N94 are its ONLY extra cost OPTIONS)
3266.00 + 1116.45 + the hood(~$150) = ~$4532.45 + destination charge
HEMI 4-spd w/3.54s - black interior, '450 wheels, manual steering, manual drum brakes, NO radio, NO console, NO vinyl top, and NO stripes.
I have a copy of the b'cast sheet - SPD 512 & VON 076275.

Sounds like a "racecar", that's the rumor - it was raced/hacked to death in the '70s & didn't survive. It was in the pacific northwest (note the VON).

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I went to a show in Washington about 5 years ago and tried to talk with the "rumored" source of the b'cast sheet. He looked at me like I accused him of "stealing the car".

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Sounds like a "racecar", that's the rumor - it was raced/hacked to death in the '70s & didn't survive.

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Nothing is written in STONE!

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The TX9 - "black" N94 HEMI Challenger R/T was JS23R0B336419 - Y14 "SOLD" car
(E74, D21, A33 & N94 are its ONLY extra cost OPTIONS)
3266.00 + 1116.45 + the hood(~$150) = ~$4532.45 + destination charge
HEMI 4-spd w/3.54s - black interior, '450 wheels, manual steering, manual drum brakes, NO radio, NO console, NO vinyl top, and NO stripes.
I have a copy of the b'cast sheet - SPD 512 & VON 076275.

Sounds like a "racecar", that's the rumor - it was raced/hacked to death in the '70s & didn't survive. It was in the pacific northwest (note the VON).

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Thanks for the posting some of those pic's on each car 6bblgt, but can you tell us a little bit of each cars history including what ever happened to the black 70 Hemi Challenger R/T that was wrecked. Also how did you come across your green 70 383 Challenger R/T w/N94 code, is it on the fender-tag & build-sheet, and whats the build date on it.

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Thanks again for all of those links 6bblgt, I will need a couple of hours to read all of them. Do you know anything about that other black 70 Hemi Challenger R/T that was wrecked, when and where, auto or 4-spd, etc, or any other details about the car?

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So this black 70 Challenger R/T is definitely gone for sure then, do you have any other sources or heard of any other stories about the car, how did you here about the Challenger?

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Curious as to how all this info on the car can be a rumor. So the guy you confronted had all of this information above then, a build-sheet, but then denied it.

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Hemi - FE5

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The red one-1973.

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I know of the existence of four documented 1970 non-T/A Challengers built with the N94 fiberglass hood...

JS23R0B - black R/T 4-speed "RIP"
JS23R0B - red R/T automatic, (not the ebay car)
JH23H0B - blue automatic.
JS23N0B - green R/T automatic.

What's your fascination about the "black" N94 HEMI Challenger R/T?
Have you found it?

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Because I wanted to know what ever became of this black 70 Hemi Challenger R/T w/N94 T/A hood option. You have it noted above as R.I.P, and to me that means someone wrecked it, or something else happened to it. But it seems now that even that is uncertain as to what ever happened to it, because no one can prove that it's really gone, or no one wants to talk about it for what ever reason, other than yourself. I was just inquiring to see if you knew the story of it's demise, that's all.

And I sure wouldn't mind finding that other red 70 Hemi Challenger R/T with the T/A hood that was for sale last year and talk to the owner of it, and ask him a few question's about it, so anyone here know where that one is?

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Basically, anytime anyone wants information, for no apparent reason, it makes everyone else wonder why? So any knowledge is better kept secret.
"Thanks" to all the crooked dealers, flippers, auctioneers, and so forth, for driving all the prices up, building clones, faking numbers etc...etc....

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The FF4 "light green metallic" N94 383 Challenger R/T is JS23N0B405351 - Y14 "SOLD" car
(D32, B51, C16, C92, G11, H51, J46, J55, J81, N94, M85, R11, R31, S77, S79, U82, V1F, W21, & W34 are its extra cost OPTIONS)
3266.00 + 1163.60 + the hood(~$150) = ~$4579.60 + destination charge
383 auto w/3.23 open, black interior, V6X & a few OPTIONS to the point of having a window sticker price near the HEMI cars.
I have the b'cast sheet - SPD 702 & VON 076823.

I purchased the car from Shafi Keisler in the mid-'90s thru an ad in Mopar Collectors Guide & have finally got it in a shop to begin its restoration.
Anyone have an "ordered" Challenger from the pacific northwest with a 076xxx VON?

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Welcome aboard Jeff!

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Didn't you have a 71 barracuda pilot car being restored? Did it get done? How did it come out?

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With the bump, I see I never responded to this - it's still "getting done".

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I don't recall any TA hoods on the Hemi Challengers that were modified at Creative.We also worked on the TA hoods (several different designs) and the final design was not accepted until very late in the year (Nov-Dec?). Hood was designed in the Creative-Chry styling room at Creative.Any car that had one would have to be built very late and also would have been built with the factory Hemi-fender w/second tag to note that fact.No Creative modified cars had 2 tags.Last cars modified at Creative were March or April 1st,1970.This an interesting one.

When were the 340 TA cars available? Had to be sometime in early 1970.I am guessing they were held up for the hood as were the Hemi cars for the fender mods. 1st day for Hemi fender mods was Sept 28,1969 other than the first test shots.

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Yes,I worked at Creative.Your car should have the hemi fender tag and the factory modified (stamped instead of hand modified) fenders.No fender lip molding either.No Hemi-Challenger should have the moldings.

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Yes,I worked at Creative.Your car should have the hemi fender tag and the factory modified (stamped instead of hand modified) fenders.No fender lip molding either.No Hemi-Challenger should have the moldings.

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TX9 Hemi (James) - welcome to MOPARTS. Glad to hear the car survives!

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"The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated" - Mark Twain

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Hey Dan! Thank you very much, it's good to hear from you! Like the quote I been meaning to get around to posting about it lol. Hoping soon to start the build, I been collecting and listing everything the Black Car will need and I have most of it. Certain Hemi pieces I will need to find still. How is your car coming along?

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I have never seen a "Hemi Fender" tag on any original 1970 Hemi Challenger.

Earlier Hemi Challengers had wheel well moldings as standard equipment, but at some point in the model year that changed.

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None of the pics I have of my cowl are clear enough to determine original "cowl black ?" - I'll try to confirm its existence or non-existence.

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Wasn't the EL HEMI Challenger Resto Rick restored a number of years ago an original TA hood car. Juan, the current owner, got it from his father who ordered the car. That car is Hemi Orange.

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Wasn't the EL HEMI Challenger Resto Rick restored a number of years ago an original TA hood car.

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