B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same

Posted By: Finoke

B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/27/11 12:58 AM

Does anybody know if 70 Road Runner rearview mirrors are being reproduced?

Is the hardtop mirror the same as the convertible?

thanks
Tom

Posted By: gtx6970

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/27/11 02:02 AM

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Does anybody know if 70 Road Runner rearview mirrors are being reproduced? NO

Is the hardtop mirror the same as the convertible?
Mirror itelf - yes,,,, post that mounts it - No
thanks
Tom

Posted By: Finoke

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/27/11 02:27 AM

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Quote:

Does anybody know if 70 Road Runner rearview mirrors are being reproduced? NO

Is the hardtop mirror the same as the convertible?
Mirror itelf - yes,,,, post that mounts it - No
thanks
Tom

Oh, thats not good..

Posted By: 70runner

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/27/11 05:27 AM

NOS post for 70B conv

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Posted By: Finoke

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/27/11 05:31 AM

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NOS post for 70B conv

Thanks, that pics gonna help!

Posted By: gtx6970

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/27/11 01:29 PM

I've got an NOS mirror and post, problem is I do not know what it's for.

I'll take a picture this evening and post it

Posted By: Finoke

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/27/11 05:50 PM

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I've got an NOS mirror and post, problem is I do not know what it's for.

I'll take a picture this evening and post it

Cool, would like to check it out.

Posted By: Finoke

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/27/11 05:51 PM

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NOS post for 70B conv

What are the differences between the 68-9 and 70 B body vert rear view mirror posts?

Posted By: 68SportSatvert

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/28/11 01:39 AM

Tom,
I'm pretty sure I have an extra for my 68 Sport Satellite convertible. I won't be where the parts are until the first weekend in May but will look and let you know.

Posted By: 70runner

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/28/11 02:13 AM

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NOS post for 70B conv

What are the differences between the 68-9 and 70 B body vert rear view mirror posts?

IIRC they are the same

Posted By: gtx6970

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/28/11 02:30 AM

I bought this many years ago for my former 1969 GTX, problem is I don't remember if it was for the hardtop or the convertible I had.

It is NOS , just not 100% mint. part number written on the pkg is 2930261 BUT, it's written with a marker so I wouldn't guarentee the pt# is accurate

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Posted By: gtx6970

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/28/11 02:30 AM

Posted By: gtx6970

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/28/11 02:31 AM

last one

Posted By: sthemi

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/28/11 04:38 AM

That is a nice mirror, I have one just like it, but I dont know where it came from...

Note the bracket the left with the visor notches reversed and second from the left with a taller bracket (maybe C Body)?.
The mirror on the right is from a early build 68 Satellite, and is stainless.

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Posted By: Finoke

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/28/11 06:28 PM

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That is a nice mirror, I have one just like it, but I dont know where it came from...
Note the bracket the left with the visor notches reversed and second from the left with a taller bracket (maybe C Body)?.
The mirror on the right is from a early build 68 Satellite, and is stainless.

That made things clear as mud

Interesting, all the little variations. But yes I'm interested in finding out what is correct and finding something to acquire and install.

If anybody thinks they have something that is close and will work, I'm interested (just to get me through inspection and up to Carlisle in July)

Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/28/11 08:27 PM

1971 MIRRORs (except c-body) are the same as '70 below.
1971 BRACKET & SHAFTs are different from '70 below.

from 1970-71 Parts Catalog
23-21-8 - MIRROR,
Inside Rear View Prismatic
*** Comp. 70 ALL #3454 875

23-21-14 - BRACKET and SHAFT,
Inside Rear View Mirror Mtg.
*** Painted 70 R,W 21,23,29,41,45,46 #3508 984
*** Chrome 70 R,W 27 #2945 206

&

from 1969 Parts Catalog
23-21-8 - MIRROR,
Inside Rear View Prismatic
*** Comp. ALL #2935 490

23-21-14 - BRACKET and SHAFT,
Inside Rear View Mirror Mtg.
*** Painted V,B,L,R,W 21,23,29,41,45,46 #2945 208
*** Chrome R,W 27 #2945 206

&

from 1968 Parts Catalog
23-21-8 - MIRROR,
Inside Rear View Prismatic
*** Comp. ALL #2935 490

23-21-14 - BRACKET and SHAFT,
Inside Rear View Mirror Mtg.
*** Painted 70 R,W 21,23,29,41,45,46 #2945 694
*** Chrome R,W 27 #2935 129

1967s are different than above - ALL bracket & shafts listed as "chrome"

Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/28/11 08:42 PM

This should be #3454 875 (composite mirror) from a '70 GTX hardtop.

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Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/28/11 08:45 PM

& the painted Bracket & Shaft #3508 984 (shaft is 3-1/2" lg. not counting the pivot "ball")

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Posted By: Finoke

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 04:13 AM

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from 1970-71 Parts Catalog
23-21-8 - MIRROR,
Inside Rear View Prismatic
*** Comp. 70 ALL #3454 875

23-21-14 - BRACKET and SHAFT,
Inside Rear View Mirror Mtg.
*** Painted 70 R,W 21,23,29,41,45,46 #3508 984
*** Chrome 70 R,W 27 #2945 206

&

from 1969 Parts Catalog
23-21-8 - MIRROR,
Inside Rear View Prismatic
*** Comp. ALL #2935 490

23-21-14 - BRACKET and SHAFT,
Inside Rear View Mirror Mtg.
*** Painted V,B,L,R,W 21,23,29,41,45,46 #2945 208
*** Chrome R,W 27 #2945 206

&

from 1968 Parts Catalog
23-21-8 - MIRROR,
Inside Rear View Prismatic
*** Comp. ALL #2935 490

23-21-14 - BRACKET and SHAFT,
Inside Rear View Mirror Mtg.
*** Painted 70 R,W 21,23,29,41,45,46 #2945 694
*** Chrome R,W 27 #2935 129

Good stuff! thanks

Posted By: 70mopes

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 04:58 AM

This is the mirror which came off my '69 roadrunner convertible...

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Posted By: 70mopes

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 04:59 AM

Another

Posted By: 70mopes

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 05:01 AM

Part number on base...

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Posted By: 70runner

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 05:31 AM

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Part number on base...

same number as on my NOS base

Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 05:50 AM

Here's one in a '68 Charger.

Is this correct for the car?

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Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 05:52 AM

& the painted Bracket & Shaft (shaft is 4-3/4" lg. not counting the pivot "ball")

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Posted By: JohnRR

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 02:55 PM

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This is the mirror which came off my '69 roadrunner convertible...

After looking at the pictures my memory has been jogged, the attachment to the post I quoted is what the convertible base looks like, notice it has ROUNDED corners, the hardtop/coupe bases have squared off corners ,also the convert base and stem is polished chrome, the others are not.

edit ... I can't comment accurately on the stem change

Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 05:05 PM

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There is a change to the post from 69 down to 70, the 69 down is round.

More jogging needed... My 68 has a square stem...

I hate it when that happens..

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 05:09 PM

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There is a change to the post from 69 down to 70, the 69 down is round.

More jogging needed... My 68 has a square stem... I hate it when that happens..

Maybe it's 69 only for the round stem? My 'vert was a 68 and I sold it 10 plus years ago, I can't remember which it had .

Posted By: 70mopes

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 09:17 PM

70runner... interesting. Our cars should have the same shafts and base. Our bases match however there is something going on with the shaft configuration. I actually have two of the mirrors shown in my post. Both have the exact same base and shaft. One came off my 69 RR convert. The other was off a 69 GTX or Satellite convertible .. one or the other. Can anyone clear up what a 69-70 mirror assy is supposed to look like with some pictures and info?

Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/29/11 10:44 PM

I find it hard to believe there isn't a good understanding on the subject - (CORRECT '68-'70 b-body rear view mirrors)
--- & the parts book isn't making a convincing argument.

per the parts book:
2 different mirrors: '68-'69 VS. '70
2 different "bracket & shaft" for convertibles: '68 VS. '69-'70
2 different "bracket & shaft" finishes: convertible "chrome" VS. all else "painted"
3 different "bracket & shaft" for non-convertibles: '68 VS. '69 VS. '70

appears to be:
2 different mirrors: early '68 (no border) VS. late '68-'70 (plastic frame)
2 different brackets (bases): 2 corners/2 rounds (convertible) VS. 4 corners (all else)
3 different shafts: long "Teardrop" VS. short "Round" VS. short "Square I-beam"

I'll get the specifics from my brother's '68 GTX (September '67 built St. Louis car).

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Posted By: Chargerfan68

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/30/11 05:33 AM

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Here's one in a '68 Charger. Is this correct for the car?

I'm not 100% sure, but all the mirrors on 68 Chargers that I've seen, all had the black frame around them. I seem to remember the one you have being for C or A bodies. Again , Im not completely sure.

The 2 mirrors on both my 68 Chargers had the black surround on the mirror

Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: B bdy rearview mirrors reproed? Are hardtop + vert same - 04/30/11 06:36 AM

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Here's one in a '68 Charger. Is this correct for the car?

I'm not 100% sure, but all the mirrors on 68 Chargers that I've seen, all had the black frame around them. I seem to remember the one you have being for C or A bodies. Again , Im not completely sure.

The 2 mirrors on both my 68 Chargers had the black surround on the mirror

What are the SPDs of your Chargers? The Charger I posted pics from is made up of a couple different cars & I think the rear view mirror came out of xp29f8b187116 with a B01 SPD. The black plastic backed "frameless" mirror is also in my brother's '68 GTX (SPD 927). I believe '67s have a silver metal back

& the Parts Catalog shows the same mirror head for all '68 passenger cars.