Differences between '67-'69 Barracudas

I'll agree with that. But what did '67 and '69's use then?

not sure about 67 but 69 used these

My 67 coupe doesn't have hood or fender-top turn signal lights. I don't think they were offered that year, but maybe someone could correct me on that.

The antenna is different between '67 and '69 they have a smaller hole in '67 and a larger hole in '68 along with a different bezel.

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Here is one more:

67 had a chrome button for the door handle, sometime in '68 they went to black plastic, not sure what they did in '69

I believe there is a difference in the steering column . Grant shows a different steering wheel adapter for the 67's then the 68 and 69 . What is different from the 67 and the 68-69 ?
I have a 68 Cuda and I'm switching to a console shift from a column shift . The steering column I have is a 67

Yes, but no; they are designed slightly different but I can not see any way they are different that would effect fitment.

'67 uses a ball bearing lower retainer, whereas the later ones use a nylon sleeve type setup. the '68+ style is available in repop, but the '67 ball bearing type is not avail... I went through 4 stearing columns to find good races / balls to rebuild mine...

I was thinking about designing a busing which could be used on the '67 ones to use a real, standard ball bearing, but I never got around to it...

I see you are in Midletown OH, I am about 40 min from you - I have both styles if you want to see the differences...

What is the difference about mounting a steering wheel, different spline or something ? Is the harness the same ?

Doors for each year are different, slight difference but for originality, different.

1967, uses chrome Phillips screw for wing window
1968 and 1969, allen screw with plastic plug
1967 and 1968 interior door lock closer to back of door.
1969 interior lock release moved forward about 6 inches.

Actually two years, 67 and 68.

Yeah forgot the mirror, thanks. Just to clarify, 67 and 68 are for the vents only, 67 like said above, has Phillips screw for wing window 68 Allen screw w/ plastic plug.

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I have compiled a list (from my memory) - anyone else have any more? - there was a good thread about a year ago outlining some of the differences, but I guess it is gone now - not in my favs or search for???

A few things I have found

1. Grills are different between all years, 67-68 will swap though
2. Header panels are different all three years, again 67-8 will swap, 67 has PLYMOUTH spelled out, but '68 had it as one word, '69 had a bump in the center, '67-8 were flat along the top.
3. 67 has a one year only idler arm
4. 67 was the last year for the 273, the 68 got the 318/340/383 (the 383 was avail in '67)
5. The wiper motors are different
6. The fish emblem is bigger on a '67 and placed at the front of the fender, 68 is toward the back
7. '67 has no side markers
8. '68 grill/fenders has another hole in the left and right ends of the grill
9. '67 used the inland shifter; sometime in '68 they moved to HURST
10. in a four speed, the output shaft yoke is the small dia (the 904 style) the later ones used the large 727 yoke
11. The '67 used a smaller (3 speed) output bearing on the 4-speed then the '68+ (it was the same for '66 BTW).
12. The 67 used a smaller 9.5" clutch and the later ones used the larger 10.5" - the belhousing on a '67 is cast iron as well, and later ones are Aluminum.
13. The dash is different, the pad only covers the top, '68 the pad has a "knee pad", and 69 only covers the top, but the top pad is different.
14. The dash bezels are different - the '67 had the cig lighter in the ash tray
15. The glove box door is different as well; both in the hinges and the handle; '68's have a button (I think??)
16. The glove box cardboard box is different - it attached differently then '68+
17. The tach for a '67 is different then a '68 the sweep range is different
18. '67 the trip odo was standard, optional in '68+
18a. The speedo cable was different - it screwed into the back of the speedo in '67 and snapped in in '68+
19. For a 'vert, the inside around the window trim is painted black in '68+ in '67 the a-pilar moldings were plastic chrome and the upper part was chrome.
20. The wing ding (vent window on the door) channel and handle is different between the years, '67 has a straight handle, 68+ curves in torawd the door.
21. The doors are different, '67 has a screw holding on the wing ding (vent window) which can be seen inside the car, '68 had a plug there, '69 had nothing,
22. 67 + 68 have the door vents in the front of the door and the bottom (behind the front seat), '69 does not
23. The side view mirror was moved in '68
24. The door lock was moved in '69 up torward the driver
25. The door panels are different
26. The seat frames are different, '67 used the '66 style with steal trim for the back and bottom, '68 used something different.
27. The console was changed in '69 to a wood grain insert, the '66-68 had a black strip - both 4 speed and auto
29. The arm rests are different on a '67, they have something like a "shelf" that the pad mounts to, 68+ used the later style, which were used until '76
30. The door hardware is different, the window crank on a '67 is all metal, '68+ used a metal bar w/plastic handle
31. The rear door panels are different, but the converts are the same.
32. The gas cap is different in '69 it said "FUEL"
33. The gas tank is differen in '67 - it used one strap going from left to right, 68+ used two straps going front to back.
34. '67 had single exhaust (I think the 383 had dual, but not sure) 68 had dual exhaust.
35. '67 did not use chrome exhaust tips - the hi po cars used the 273 resonator system
36. The reverse lights are different, '67 used the long style (I think) '68 had none (they were in the tail light) and '69 used a shorter style and a longer style, but I think they are different then the ones used in '67.
37. The trunk lids are different, they have different emblem holes.
38. '67 trunk trim was 3-pieces, '68 was two, '69 was one
39. The tail lights are different for all 3 years
40. The vin number on a '67 is on the a pillar in front of the door, in '68 it is on the dash
41. The dash frames are different (the glovebox lid + plastic dash + the '68 is purforated along the top under the pad - '67 is solid).
42. The radios were different, '67 had knobs, '68 used thump wheel.
43. The '67 had the horn relay under the hood (near the horns) and in '68 it was moved under the dash
44. All 3 years used different rocker panel moldings, the '67 were thin (about 2-3"), '68 had a thin spear, with a pot metal piece with fins near the rear wheel.
45. The optional wood grain on the upper dash bezel was different on '69s compared to the '67-'68 style wood grain
46. The window lock strip was different in '67 vs. 68+ (for both the front and back windows), in '67 it used a lock strip (like the '66 and the 80's trucks) and in '68+ it was glued in and had stainless steel trim. - The vert used the same style for all 3 years though (lock strip in the bottom & stainless trip around the top)
47. The convt top & vinyl top were different grains in '67 & '68 (and maybe '69).
48. The hood trim was different for all 3 years, '
'67 used the thin fins for all models, '68 used callouts on the HP models, and a simpler design for the low po models,
49. The hood was different '67-8 to '69.
50. The headlight adjusters are different 67 to 68+, the 68 ones use a larger adjusting bolt, and a slightly different plastic piece. I think the headlight bucket is different as well, and drilled out slightly bigger for the larger bolt

That is all I can think of off the top of my head...

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Don't forget the reverse light housings! '67 and '69 had chrome housings/glass lens on the rear valence. '68 reverse lights were in the tail light. Therefore no holes on the '68 rear valence. There IS 3 (i repeat THREE) different lengths of chrome reverse housings. '67 short, early '69 medium(before 1/69 build), after 1/69 long.

How about fenders? Other than the side marker difference, the '69 has 2 angled tabs welded on the head light bucket to screw the plastic head light trim/bezel to. So if you use a '67-8 fender for a '69 you need these tabs.

46. The window lock strip was different in '67 vs. 68+ (for both the front and back windows), in '67 it used a lock strip (like the '66 and the 80's trucks) and in '68+ it was glued in and had stainless steel trim. - The vert used the same style for all 3 years though (lock strip in the bottom & stainless trip around the top)


Actually, the '68-9 are not glued in, they us a rubber gasket but the stainless trim attaches to clips around the perimiter of the opening.

Also, '67s have chrome inside rear view mirrors where '68-9 have matte finish. Other parts are like this.

'69s also come standard with a unique steering wheel. It is three spokes like the '68-9 wood grain wheel but has a colored rim and matching horn button. A '69 Barracuda only part.

'69s also made the fold down rear seat in fastbacks optional and ones that didn't get it didn't have carpet on the floor back there.

'68-9 you could get red plastic wheel well liners on fastbacks and coupes.

'69 Bumper gaurds are located further apart.

'68s have multiple rocker trim or none at all.

Stripes different all three years.

Numbering on speedo different between '68 and '69

'68 A/C vent assembly different (it's padded).

'69 has unique wheel covers available.

Can't think of anything else.

Thought of more...

Disc brakes were standard on '67 383 cars. Optional on '68. Not sure about '69.

Power steering available with 383 in '69.

440 available in '69

'Cuda package in '69

'69 optional rocker panel molding is different then '67 - '68 rocker molding. I have seen the '69 Barracuda rocker molding on some of the early Dusters.

'69 dash wood grain different then '67-'68 dash wood grain.

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I think it has come to the point that I should organize the different differences into categories - like interior, exterior, engine, trans, etc...

Anything else?

I believe there is a difference with trunk lids. '67 has a frame with a outer skin(like a hood) where '69 has 2 solid skins with the frame as part of the inner skin. I'm not sure which way a '68 is. I have a '68 lid but can't get to it at this time.

I DON"T believe the bumper gaurds were further apart on '69 as a earlier post said. If you look here the guards are on the outside but notice in the older pic someone added those TALL guards in the middle and moved the factory guards out!! That is very odd looking with guards on the out side! Maybe this is where the poster saw this without seeing the old pic? I have car #29 survivor with 21K miles and it is correct position as factory.
http://www.mooresmopars.com/modtop1.html

With all the posts disappearing, I did not want this one to die, so here is a

In 69 A bodys the pan that is just forward of the trunk pan changes.67/68 and up to mid 69 has a well in it...mid 69 and up is smooth.

I've heard that '67 notchback rear window is smaller than a '68 & '69??????? Therefore the opening is also smaller. How much????

Someone was asking me a question and I thought it was in this thread (and it was), just a bump to keep it out of the dead...

Some good stuff...

A little more clarification on the hoods. I have a 73 Dart hood with no crumple zones and another with, and two rusted up 69s. The ribs are the same as far as I can tell and the 73s have the little bolt cutouts for the 69 scoops so my feeling they used the same ribs from 69 other than the adjusting pieces for the hinge and crumple zone latter in the year.? They will bolt on but have no adjustment unless you use the same year hood-hinges, 73-73 and 69-69 . I have a 68 and 69 fb trunk lid and see no difference except trim holes. 69s had two maybe three steering wheels, cheapo three spoke with holes and thin hard rubber band, second same spokes but wood looking band with ss strips around band, third was a rim blow type, not compleatly sure on that but what I heard. Also heard but not sure, the bumper guards on 69 (witch I have) where splayed out on the back but straight forward on the front. The guards I have now (4 out of 10) are made this way so??
69s S and Cudas have spring torque boxes in the rear, convertibles have rear and front. 440 engine has a unique driver side motor mount.

The Formula S round medallions are the same part number for '67-'68, one on each front fender, total 2. These have wide silver outer rings and are readily obtainable.

In '69 the round medallion was re-designed with a narrow black outer ring and moved to the tail panel, just one. Layson's used to sell a re-pop until 2008. Except for the Layson's version, I've never seen one of these for sale anywhere.

There were also "340-S" emblems in 1969 only for the front fenders when the upper body stripe with engine call out was deleted. But I've seen lots of cars with both these emblems and the upper body stripes, which isn't factory correct as I understand it. Were there "383-S" emblems?

Since you are all on this subject does anyone know where I can get fenders for a 69 barracuda. The passenger mainly. New, aftermarket or non rusted used. Thanks.

yes the 67 notchback rear window is smaller. but the opening is the same as 68 and 69

I did years ago, I had all 3 year next to each other and did a comparison at my house. Going on memory so I might get years messed up but I will be close.
67 68 cowls are differs for 69
all three year the fire was is different
all 3 years the radiator support header is different
all 3 years the sides of the radiator support are different
I there was something on the 67 in the roof that was different
I think the inside of the trunk the trail light brackets a little different
67 inner fender are different
front license plate brackets is different I think 67 had no slots at the top
69 shoulder belts
January of 69 mandatory headrest
The fastback fold down seat hinge bracket on the seat chrome on 67 and 68 natural on 69 also and the part that screws to the body different one was cast steel and the I believe the other was cast aluminum
seat belts different
hood release different all 3 yeas 67 68 are close but different
68 astray
key light
heater cables in 67 different
67 bucket seat reinforcements different 68 69
There is more sheet metal on the body that is different have think some more.

What about the horn button on the steering wheels. I have seen some with a Plymouth emblem in the center, and some with a Barracuda(fish) emblem. I have seen both on all 3 years. What determines when it would have the Plymouth emblem verses the fish emblem? Great old thread that I am glad someone drug up.

69 = fish emblem