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Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440?

Posted By: 1972Rallye

Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/08/10 05:34 PM

I can't find one anywhere (except NOS on e-bay) that's affordable... For '71 and '72 in my case -both take the same one. I know some '69 and '70 models had them too.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/08/10 09:51 PM

hey thanks for the note... sucks doesnt it? avs ones are 40.00 holley 200.00 repro! dan
Posted By: gtx6970

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/09/10 12:21 AM

no repops avail as of yet. so for now its good used or nos only.
Posted By: CARMAN

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/09/10 03:07 AM

I have this one was told it is for 69-72 bigblocks with a holly carb.Replaces factory part #3512867.If intrested let me know.

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Posted By: CARMAN

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/09/10 03:08 AM

Pic of part #

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Posted By: ph23vo

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/09/10 08:30 PM

thats 2 BBL just fyi dan
Posted By: CARMAN

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/09/10 11:06 PM

Looked it up here.type in 3512867
http://www.mymopar.com/index.php?pid=99
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 02:13 AM

well it wont fit any holley 4 BBL carb i,ve ever seen.. the flat one barely clears.. so i dont know what to tell you.. good luck dan
Posted By: Iceman01

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 07:45 AM

The cross-referenced or replacement part # listed in the Mopar parts book is dead wrong and does not fit correctly -- I paid a lot of money to find out...
Posted By: 70 buzz

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 11:20 AM

Here is a picture of my choke. It is inperative to have the right gasket for the carb if you don't you will have clearence issues. My carb is a Holley. 383 engine 1970

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Posted By: 1972Rallye

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 01:14 PM

Thanks for the great pic. Looks like the right one and matches the NOS choke thermostats I've seen.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 04:10 PM

never seen one of those on a factory set up.... always had the flat one..thats the first i have seen one of the replacements on a car!.. i just need a correct one since my car should be done factory corect is all.. dan
Posted By: m46rat

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 04:28 PM

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I can't find one anywhere (except NOS on e-bay) that's affordable... For '71 and '72 in my case -both take the same one. I know some '69 and '70 models had them too.

Could you tell us exactly what your application is? There are a lot of different Holley four bbl chokes for 70-72 cars. Please post specifics.
Posted By: cuda-sweden

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 05:25 PM

now im confused.is this kind of choke thermostat oem for a -70 383hp?at least i got one in the trunk of my -70 when i bought it,it says holley on it.sorry for hijacking but i think its related,how thick carb gasket is workable with the choke connected?.
Posted By: 1972Rallye

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 05:40 PM

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I can't find one anywhere (except NOS on e-bay) that's affordable... For '71 and '72 in my case -both take the same one. I know some '69 and '70 models had them too.

Could you tell us exactly what your application is? There are a lot of different Holley four bbl chokes for 70-72 cars. Please post specifics.



The '71 is a 383 Magnum, Auto, No A/C, No N96 - Holley carb number 4668

The '72 is a 440 Magnum, 4 Speed, No A/C. N96 - Holley carb number 6254

The parts books I have both call out 3512867
Posted By: MoreParts

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 05:44 PM

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now im confused.is this kind of choke thermostat oem for a -70 383hp?at least i got one in the trunk of my -70 when i bought it,it says holley on it.sorry for hijacking but i think its related,how thick carb gasket is workable with the choke connected?.



My 70 383 Holley'd Challenger R/T has the same setup as above.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 05:55 PM

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never seen one of those on a factory set up.... always had the flat one..thats the first i have seen one of the replacements on a car!.. i just need a correct one since my car should be done factory corect is all.. dan



Then you have obviously NEVER seen OR owned a 1970 Big block with a 4bbl since you are confusing the OP issue with your 68 and 69 big block 4bbl cars ...

HELLOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 05:58 PM

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now im confused.is this kind of choke thermostat oem for a -70 383hp?at least i got one in the trunk of my -70 when i bought it,it says holley on it.sorry for hijacking but i think its related,how thick carb gasket is workable with the choke connected?.



Yes you can thank Dan for confusing you.

That is correct for 1970 ,edit ... i see you need a thick basket wit hthe holley also ... but it is definitely needed for a CARTER or the carb will not fully seat to the manifold and you might break it trying .
Posted By: NANKET

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 06:17 PM

The pictures are correct, you need a 1/4" thick base gasket for the proper carb height, a thin gasket will have the carb resting on top of the choke housing, NAPA has the correct gasket. This is the same gasket for 383 Carter or Holley and 440 4BBL GTX, the chokes are different.
Posted By: NANKET

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 06:22 PM

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never seen one of those on a factory set up.... always had the flat one..thats the first i have seen one of the replacements on a car!.. i just need a correct one since my car should be done factory corect is all.. dan



Then you have obviously NEVER seen OR owned a 1970 Big block with a 4bbl since you are confusing the OP issue with your 68 and 69 big block 4bbl cars ...

HELLOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!



If you were around Seattle area shows in the early 2000's then it would be painfully obvious that he did own a 1970 Road Runner 383 AT car. We were all so glad when he flipped it. It was advertised here on moparts.
Posted By: m46rat

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/10/10 07:27 PM

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I can't find one anywhere (except NOS on e-bay) that's affordable... For '71 and '72 in my case -both take the same one. I know some '69 and '70 models had them too.

Could you tell us exactly what your application is? There are a lot of different Holley four bbl chokes for 70-72 cars. Please post specifics.



The '71 is a 383 Magnum, Auto, No A/C, No N96 - Holley carb number 4668

The '72 is a 440 Magnum, 4 Speed, No A/C. N96 - Holley carb number 6254

The parts books I have both call out 3512867



An NOS one on eBay is about 70.00. Do you consider that to be "affordable"? BTW, the choke for a 70 383+4 Holley is NOT the same as for a 71. The chokes are different, although they all have the word Holley stamped into them.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/11/10 04:57 AM

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If you were around Seattle area shows in the early 2000's then it would be painfully obvious that he did own a 1970 Road Runner 383 AT car. We were all so glad when he flipped it. It was advertised here on moparts.



I do remember the 70 he flipped , it was a stripped down coupe , bronze me thinks ?
Posted By: cuda-sweden

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/11/10 09:35 PM

there seems to be a jungle of different chokes out there,i hope they have a part.nr stanced on them,otherwise it could be tricky to find the right one,at least if its not attatched to a manifold or in a nos box
Posted By: UP FM3challenger

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/12/10 02:55 AM

So which part number is correct for a 70 383?
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/12/10 04:29 AM

my car was a very early 70 RR and had been swapped [possibly] to an AVS so i just used what it had.. it ran great and looked good... yes it should have had a holley factory according to the sheet, i bought it from the orig owner too.. and if owning a car for 10+ yrs is flipping it.... i guess i,m a flipper! i have never seen one of those big thermostats on a car so i guess some had em... always been 2 BBLs i,ve seen with em.. i know my 69 has the flat one.. RM23NOE129303 EV2 TX9 dan
Posted By: 72roadrunnergtx

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/12/10 04:58 AM

From the 72' FSM, this choke spring design first appeared on most V8s beginning in 1970 and was used thru 72', 73' used electrically heated choke springs requiring another choke well design.

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/12/10 05:36 PM

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my car was a very early 70 RR and had been swapped [possibly] to an AVS so i just used what it had.. it ran great and looked good... yes it should have had a holley factory according to the sheet, i bought it from the orig owner too.. and if owning a car for 10+ yrs is flipping it.... i guess i,m a flipper! i have never seen one of those big thermostats on a car so i guess some had em... always been 2 BBLs i,ve seen with em.. i know my 69 has the flat one.. RM23NOE129303 EV2 TX9 dan



dan , that is 1970/UP choke thermo. it's used on ALL 1970 Big block 4bbls , no matter what carb it had, there is obviously one specific to holley or carter as far as the rod that connects to the carb goes but they are all of the domed design because the 1970 manifold is different than 68/69 . If your 70 had a flat one then it also had the wrong intake, but it don't matter because you flipped it.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/13/10 07:51 PM

john it was a very early LA car so it could have had a 69 intake on it... or maybe something happened early on and it got changed... it was a #,s car.. also the pass side exh manifold was a 73 date code so maybe some parts were swapped or whatever... the orig owner was in his 60,s when he bought it new... so i doubt he did it.. dan
Posted By: junkyardmaxie

Re: Reproduction choke available for Holley on 383/440? - 06/14/10 12:09 AM

i have 2 of these suppose to be for holley carb 68-69 it has holley on it with the #56 on it]big block -440 if its something you need or can use email me moparraceman@aol.com $25.00 plus shipping each thanks

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