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diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails?

Posted By: Slim Smitty

diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/27/08 11:19 PM

I'm considering converting my 69 bee from bench to bucket seats. My interchange manual says buckets with headrests are the same for 68-69. But it also says the rails are different. What's the difference between 68 rails and 69 rails?
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/27/08 11:27 PM

they are different from bench to bucket , but 68-69 bucket rails should/would be the same .
Posted By: Slim Smitty

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/27/08 11:34 PM

That's what I was thinking, but they list the seat frames as interchanging but they say the rails don't interchange. I just don't want to plunk down the bucks for buckets only to find I need to find correct rails.

Anyone else ever heard of rails not being the same? Maybe (hopefully) the book is wrong.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/27/08 11:37 PM

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That's what I was thinking, but they list the seat frames as interchanging but they say the rails don't interchange. I just don't want to plunk down the bucks for buckets only to find I need to find correct rails.

Anyone else ever heard of rails not being the same? Maybe (hopefully) the book is wrong.



what book ? the floor pan is the same 68-69 as far as i know ....
Posted By: Slim Smitty

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/27/08 11:40 PM

I'll run out to the shop and get the name. I'm with you, the pans are the same. Doesn't make sense to me.
Posted By: mxbeep

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/27/08 11:49 PM

they interchange but 68 rails makes the seat sit higher.

If you are short the 68 rails will be better for you.
Posted By: Slim Smitty

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/27/08 11:57 PM

The book I'm using is called 'Chrysler Muscle Car Parts Interchange Manual 1968-1974'
Posted By: Slim Smitty

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/28/08 12:02 AM

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they interchange but 68 rails makes the seat sit higher.

If you are short the 68 rails will be better for you.



Funny. I was gonna mention that as being the only possible difference. I'm 5'8" so I guess 68 rails wouldn't hurt my position at all!
Posted By: rrunner

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/28/08 12:38 AM

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they interchange but 68 rails makes the seat sit higher.

If you are short the 68 rails will be better for you.

If I remember correct, they can. Isn't there a adjustment that can be made on 68 tracks?
Posted By: rrunner

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/28/08 12:44 AM

This is in the parts section, doesn't say what year but I remember something like these in a 68 B body I had many moons ago.

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Posted By: Slim Smitty

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/28/08 06:06 AM

So those are 68 buckets? I saw those in the for sale section. He says they have a vertical adjustment on them - as seen in the pics. So I guess they could be set to the correct height if I wanted them to be 'correct' for a 69. I've found plenty of buckets for sale, but all have been listed as 68-69 seats with no mention of the exact year. I guess most don't know of the difference in the rails. At least now I know I can use either year.

Thanks!
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/28/08 11:50 AM

I don't remeber seeing tracks like that on a 68 sport satellite i parted from my sport sat convert , very interesting .

SLIM , since you are going away from stock with a conversion to buckets I don't think that would OR should be an issue. Good seat cores are hard to come by , nevermind the prices I have seen being asked, take what you can get, nobody will hardly notice that ...


Posted By: badblack68

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/28/08 01:46 PM

The last bucket seat rails I saw like those were on my 1964 Plymouth Sport Fury. I`ve never seen adjustable rails on a set of 68 bucket seats. The adjustment knob on those seats look like the oval early b-body type.
Posted By: a12superbee

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/28/08 06:47 PM

I have a few crusty sets from both 68 and 69 can't see any difference in them except the 68's had the wood spacers and the 69's had plastic. None of them are adjustable like in the picture.
I have that same book Slim and I wouldn't bet on it being totally accurate.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/28/08 10:52 PM

There are reinforcement plates welded into the floor of bucket seat cars where they attach to the floor also.
Posted By: rrunner

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/28/08 11:47 PM

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I don't remeber seeing tracks like that on a 68 sport satellite i parted from my sport sat convert , very interesting .

SLIM , since you are going away from stock with a conversion to buckets I don't think that would OR should be an issue. Good seat cores are hard to come by , nevermind the prices I have seen being asked, take what you can get, nobody will hardly notice that ...




Can't say they were org as it was a car that had been worked over to say the least. The car was a 68 Coronet 500 and it was a org bucket with console car.
The seats with the tracks are in July parts section and appear to be 68/9 frames with the plastic covers on the sides, but I have no idea what the pattern on the cover is Possibly c body
Posted By: cornucopia

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/30/08 09:59 PM

I had some original buckets from a '68 satellite, and they had no adjustment...
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/30/08 11:01 PM

I had a set of 67 Satellite buckets, they had the vertical adjustment...My 9/67 spd 68 Coronet buckets don't have the adjustment....
Posted By: Day2Runner

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/30/08 11:31 PM

speaking of 68 69 b body buckets
the 69 have the forward/back lever on the side
and the lean forward lever on the back side at the botton whats the diff on 68 ?? and did all 69 have headrest and where headrest avaliable on 68 ?? and will all core be the same only differnt covers for each model ??
thx moparts
sorry to hijack
Posted By: NITROUSN

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/31/08 01:03 AM

Every 68 that I had never had tracks with adjusters on the side.
Posted By: rrunner

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 07/31/08 01:47 AM

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speaking of 68 69 b body buckets
the 69 have the forward/back lever on the side
and the lean forward lever on the back side at the botton whats the diff on 68 ?? and did all 69 have headrest and where headrest avaliable on 68 ?? and will all core be the same only differnt covers for each model ??
thx moparts
sorry to hijack

As far as I know 68/9 frames are the same. Headrests were a option on all 68 - mid 69 as in Jan. 1969 it was federal law to have head restraints
Posted By: Slim Smitty

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 08/01/08 11:55 AM

Wow. Good info guys. I thought this thread was dead. Always something to learn. Those 68 tracks in the pic in this thread are odd. Not anything like my buddy's seats. John RR, you're right, buckets are hard to find.

I haven't decided for sure which way to go - buckets or bench. If my car would have had a fender tag like I was told it did from the moparts member that I bought the car from, this would not be an issue. I would stick with the original bench seat. But since there's no tag or BS I'm kicking around ideas. The car is an F6, 4spd, side scoop, ramcharger car which makes it pretty cool. Not an A12, but about as cool as it can get without having a lift off hood. Which, by the way, a lift off hood could be an option for me too. Since the closest I'll probably ever get to owning a real A12 car is the 12 inch toy version sitting on my desk.

But I've got time to think about it since everything is on hold until my shop gets completed. What a nightmare. Waiting on concrete guys has been the worst experience. Finally got that out of the way after over a year. Now I'm about done with the rest of the shop so I can get back to work on the cars!
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 08/01/08 12:38 PM

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The car is an F6, 4spd, side scoop, ramcharger car which makes it pretty cool. Not an A12, but about as cool as it can get without having a lift off hood. Which, by the way, a lift off hood could be an option for me too.



thats not a bad combo you have there but I think this is a pretty cool combo , I wish it had side scoops originally ...

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Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 08/01/08 01:42 PM

Only thing cooler would be if the Bee decal were black also....

But F6 is pretty sweet as well..
Posted By: Slim Smitty

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 08/01/08 02:00 PM

That black bee is bad!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 08/01/08 06:00 PM

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I haven't decided for sure which way to go - buckets or bench. If my car would have had a fender tag like I was told it did from the moparts member that I bought the car from, this would not be an issue. I would stick with the original bench seat.





You don't need a FT or B/S to tell if the car was originally built with buckets or bench, there are reinforcement plates welded into the floor of bucket seat cars where they attach to the floor also.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 08/01/08 09:25 PM

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I haven't decided for sure which way to go - buckets or bench. If my car would have had a fender tag like I was told it did from the moparts member that I bought the car from, this would not be an issue. I would stick with the original bench seat.





You don't need a FT or B/S to tell if the car was originally built with buckets or bench, there are reinforcement plates welded into the floor of bucket seat cars where they attach to the floor also.



He knows what the car had originally if you read the original post
Posted By: Slim Smitty

Re: diff between 68-69 bucket seat rails? - 08/03/08 03:42 AM

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I haven't decided for sure which way to go - buckets or bench. If my car would have had a fender tag like I was told it did from the moparts member that I bought the car from, this would not be an issue. I would stick with the original bench seat.





You don't need a FT or B/S to tell if the car was originally built with buckets or bench, there are reinforcement plates welded into the floor of bucket seat cars where they attach to the floor also.



Thanks. You're right. I know about the reinforcement plates. That's why I'm considering a bucket seat swap. Since my car has no reinforcement plates, I know it was a bench car.
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