Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems?????

Posted By: Stewpar

Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems????? - 02/20/10 01:30 AM

I show two different part numbers: #2888798 for steel and #3462273 for the shaker. This is written down in a binder from the OLD (pre-internet) days. Is this correct? I vaguely remember someone saying the shaker emblems have longer prongs?????

Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems????? - 02/20/10 01:32 AM

There tapered for the shaker...

Posted By: N9671X2

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/20/10 02:39 AM

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There tapered for the shaker...

I think this applies to some of the shaker emblems, like 426hemi, on some emblems I believe they are identical, except they have 3 pins rather than 2, example would be Cuda340. The shaker emblems have a 3rd pin in the middle, the outer two match the steel hood ones.

Posted By: Paul Jacobs

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/20/10 04:35 AM

The 2 pin emblems were for steel hoods and used plastic inserts, the 3 pin emblems were for Shakers and used nuts on the backside. There was a very good dicussion on this last year maybe if you could do a search.

Posted By: YYZ

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/20/10 11:21 AM

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There tapered for the shaker...

I think this applies to some of the shaker emblems, like 426hemi, on some emblems I believe they are identical, except they have 3 pins rather than 2, example would be Cuda340. The shaker emblems have a 3rd pin in the middle, the outer two match the steel hood ones.

The tapering is for Challenger, rather than 'Cuda. However, only for the larger emblems such as 440 Sixpack and 426 Hemi. I have never seen a set of the 383 magnum shaker emblems to determine whether they are tapered, the 340 ones did not appear to be.

The 'Cuda emblems appear to be identical for steel hood & shaker hood, with the exception of the 3rd pin in the middle

Posted By: floyd

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/20/10 12:56 PM

I haven't seen a 383 emblem either but I had a 440 Magnum emblem and it was not tapered.

Attached picture 5818347-440shakeremblem.jpg

Posted By: Stewpar

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/20/10 02:25 PM

I should have specified 1970 'Cuda. I knew the Challenger had been tapered. Does anyone have the description of the NOS #'s I gave in the original post?

Posted By: floyd

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/20/10 02:42 PM

Sorry, I have no personal experience to back it up but I'd guess the "cuda 440-6" would not be tapered but would have three pins.

Posted By: N9671X2

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/20/10 04:17 PM

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Sorry, I have no personal experience to back it up but I'd guess the "cuda 440-6" would not be tapered but would have three pins.

agree

Posted By: xs29j8

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/20/10 06:21 PM

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Sorry, I have no personal experience to back it up but I'd guess the "cuda 440-6" would not be tapered but would have three pins.

Here is a `Cuda 440-6 Shaker nameplate...

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Posted By: cataclysm80

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems????? - 02/20/10 07:20 PM

Strangely worded question.

Steel hood vs Shaker hood? Shaker hoods were made of steel.

As far as I know, the hood emblem on the front of the hood (if it had an emblem) is the same whether it was a shaker hood or other hood. There is the Fratzog emblem, the DODGE lettering, or the Plymouth emblem. Not all the hoods had emblems though. It depends on make & model.

Engine callout emblems have some differences, but again, they're not on all hoods. None on flat hoods or T/A or AAR hoods. On shaker hoods they go on the shaker bubble instead of the hood itself.

What are you working on?

Tav

Posted By: Stewpar

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/20/10 10:10 PM

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Sorry, I have no personal experience to back it up but I'd guess the "cuda 440-6" would not be tapered but would have three pins.

Bruce:

If you would stop collecting so many Challengers, you might see what's happening on these Cuda's! Thanks for your input!

Posted By: Stewpar

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems????? - 02/20/10 10:13 PM

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Strangely worded question.

Steel hood vs Shaker hood? Shaker hoods were made of steel.

As far as I know, the hood emblem on the front of the hood (if it had an emblem) is the same whether it was a shaker hood or other hood. There is the Fratzog emblem, the DODGE lettering, or the Plymouth emblem. Not all the hoods had emblems though. It depends on make & model.

Engine callout emblems have some differences, but again, they're not on all hoods. None on flat hoods or T/A or AAR hoods. On shaker hoods they go on the shaker bubble instead of the hood itself.

What are you working on?

Tav

My question isn't about the hoods, it's about the emblems. I could have sworn that someone told me the Shaker hood emblems had longer prongs on them since the it was thicker? (shaker bubble)..........

Posted By: cataclysm80

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems????? - 02/20/10 10:51 PM

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I could have sworn that someone told me the Shaker hood emblems had longer prongs on them since the it was thicker? (shaker bubble)..........

The anodized aluminum hood trim on the front of a T/A hood uses longer retainers because the fiberglass hood is thicker than the steel hood.

Sorry I can't be much more helpful on the engine callouts. I have several pics, but I think they're all showing the installed emblem, so no pics of the pegs.

I've got some 340 emblems from a 'cuda here on a spare J54 hood. If info from them would help, tell me what you need.

Tav

Posted By: Stewpar

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/20/10 11:01 PM

Here is a `Cuda 440-6 Shaker nameplate...

Alan: Could I trouble you for the part number? Thank you!

Posted By: xs29j8

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/20/10 11:30 PM

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Here is a `Cuda 440-6 Shaker nameplate...

Alan: Could I trouble you for the part number? Thank you!

Paul - The one pictured earlier is an original one from my 1970 `Cuda 440-6, and the part number is 3462273. Attached is a picture showing the 3462273 compared to a part number 2998761 "NOS" replacement nameplate purchased from Chrysler in the early 1980s...

Allen

Attached picture 5819342-3462273_2998761.jpg

Attached picture 5819342-3462273_2998761.jpg

Posted By: Stewpar

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/21/10 12:27 AM

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Here is a `Cuda 440-6 Shaker nameplate...

Alan: Could I trouble you for the part number? Thank you!

Paul - The one pictured earlier is an original one from my 1970 `Cuda 440-6, and the part number is 3462273. Attached is a picture showing the 3462273 compared to a part number 2998761 "NOS" replacement nameplate purchased from Chrysler in the early 1980s...

Allen

Thanks Allen, that helps! Is the car in your avatar the 440-6bbl car? If so, where was it built?

Posted By: xs29j8

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/21/10 01:11 AM

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Thanks Allen, that helps! Is the car in your avatar the 440-6bbl car? If so, where was it built?

Yes, that is my `Cuda 440-6 in the avatar... see attached pic.

On the design change for nameplate attachment, I have always thought it was due to reducing manufacturing costs... three nut attachment replaced by a simple push in attachment. Later in the 70s most nameplates were self adhesive, and later plastic self adhesive.

Here is 'Ole Yeller... built in Los Angeles, sold new in Aurora, Colorado... BS23V0E115XXX

Attached picture 5819606-xs29j8_Cuda4406.jpg

Attached picture 5819606-xs29j8_Cuda4406.jpg

Posted By: Stewpar

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 02/21/10 04:32 AM

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Thanks Allen, that helps! Is the car in your avatar the 440-6bbl car? If so, where was it built?

Yes, that is my `Cuda 440-6 in the avatar... see attached pic.

On the design change for nameplate attachment, I have always thought it was due to reducing manufacturing costs... three nut attachment replaced by a simple push in attachment. Later in the 70s most nameplates were self adhesive, and later plastic self adhesive.

Here is 'Ole Yeller... built in Los Angeles, sold new in Aurora, Colorado... BS23V0E115XXX

Email sent..............

Posted By: MoparJunkie

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/09/18 03:00 PM

Would anyone have the length of what the 383 and 440 shaker emblems are? I have the 426 hemi and 440 sixpack emblems with three pins, and I bought the 383 two pin emblems, however they are nowhere near the length of the two prior emblems.... Just wanting pics or confirmation of what I have or need???? TIA

Posted By: chargervert

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/09/18 07:12 PM

I have an original Challenger shaker bubble, and the 383 Magnum emblems have an obvious curvature that follows the contour of the shaker bubble

Posted By: MoparJunkie

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/09/18 07:23 PM

Pics please??????

Posted By: chargervert

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/09/18 07:32 PM

I'm at work, but I can probably get some pictures of the bubble after work.

Posted By: MoparJunkie

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/09/18 07:41 PM

Very much appreciated!!!

Posted By: chargervert

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/10/18 12:25 AM

I got the shaker bubble out, and the emblems were not as countoured as I had remembered. They are definitely three pin emblems.

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Posted By: chargervert

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/10/18 12:26 AM

More pics

Posted By: chargervert

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/10/18 12:29 AM

I tried to shine a flashlight into the grille so you could see the three mounting pins,but I don't think it can be seen in the shot.

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Posted By: MoparJunkie

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/10/18 02:16 AM

Awesome! Thank you very much!

Posted By: floyd

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/10/18 02:35 AM

Pics of both 383 and 440 Shaker emblems (3-pin). Note the pins a longer and thicker than standard emblem pins.

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Posted By: chargervert

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/10/18 02:39 AM

Originally Posted By 70HemiShaker

Awesome! Thank you very much!

No problem

Posted By: Morty426

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/10/18 03:41 AM

Originally Posted By floyd

Pics of both 383 and 440 Shaker emblems (3-pin). Note the pins a longer and thicker than standard emblem pins.

Excellent pics Floyd

Posted By: Convertcuda

Re: Difference between steel and shaker hood emblems??? - 04/11/18 02:45 AM

Hi,

Does anyone have a nice picture of the correct pal nut that holds the emblems on. Does the nut say pal on it? Any info would be great.

Thanks Ken