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The numbers are from registries of known cars, any numbers or evidence of your former car?
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No, I was a 17/18 year old kid driving a hot car... No proof it even existed except for one picture I have of it.....
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showing some ignorance here but I thought we had no way of tracking such claims of rarity?
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Butterscotch turns out to be one of the most common colors, great find though.
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I know of 10 Butterscotch A12 Bee coupes, 7 4-speed, 3 automatic which are column shift.
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This is a great story... Thinking you're looking at a 383 'Bee and next thing you know, it's M-code car!! Well, I'm assuming it's got a "M"...
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I know of 10 Butterscotch A12 Bee coupes, 7 4-speed, 3 automatic which are column shift.
Of the 420+ '69-1/2 A12 Super Bee coupes built how many VIN#s do you have?
Of those how many do you have color/trans/interior info?
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The guy is claiming it's rare because of the butterscotch/coupe/auto/buckets/console combination. On my list of A12 cars there are 3 butterscotch/coupe/auto, but are all white bench seat, column shift.
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Your correct, the one of one claim is due to the deluxe bucket seats and auto with console combination, not on the butterscotch color.
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Your correct, the one of one claim is due to the deluxe bucket seats and auto with console combination, not on the butterscotch color.
You mean the only A12 Bee with deluxe bucket seats and auto with console. Or only butterscotch one with that combo.
That's really pushing the numbers game to pump the sale or brag about a car.
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Well let's break the numbers down from the A12 registry which are stated in this post.
Of the known A12 Bees in the registry, there are only 10 Butterscotch A12 Bee coupes, 7 4-speed, 3 automatic which are all column shift. Pretty rare already.
This is the only one found yet with an auto on the floor. This doen't take into consideration the console or the deluxe buckets.
The car is not for sale. No attempt to pump the car up as it can speak for itself. The numbers don't lie.Quote:Quote:
Your correct, the one of one claim is due to the deluxe bucket seats and auto with console combination, not on the butterscotch color.
You mean the only A12 Bee with deluxe bucket seats and auto with console. Or only butterscotch one with that combo.
That's really pushing the numbers game to pump the sale or brag about a car.
Here it is at Texas Motorplex......It ran 13.0's @ 105.......It was a 100% bone stock, low buck motor.........Repro cam.....stock converter.......points.........and it was my daily driver for about two years........
nice find!! 
anyone just trying to illustrate how 
"SILLY" this and other 1 of 1 claims are.
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Well let's break the numbers down from the A12 registry which are stated in this post.
Of the known A12 Bees in the registry, there are only 10 Butterscotch A12 Bee coupes, 7 4-speed, 3 automatic which are all column shift. Pretty rare already.
This is the only one found yet with an auto on the floor. This doen't take into consideration the console or the deluxe buckets.
The car is not for sale. No attempt to pump the car up as it can speak for itself. The numbers don't lie.
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It just occurred to me that I have been into A12's for a very long time and have never seen another buckets console 4spd with a radio delete, but I've never thought for a minute that my car is a one of one. This type of thought seems to come from people new to the lift off hobby. I've seen it a few times, but it has never bothered me. If we brake our cars down by all of the options as stated earlier in this thread there are going to be quite a few seemingly one off cars! Just because we don't see another doesn't mean there aren't more?
KID
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It just occurred to me that I have been into A12's for a very long time and have never seen another buckets console 4spd with a radio delete,
KID
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It just occurred to me that I have been into A12's for a very long time and have never seen another buckets console 4spd with a radio delete,
KID
And you NEVER will , you can't DELETE an OPTION , the radio had to be ORDERED , it is an EXTRA COST OPTION ...
the one of one claim is for the INSECURE that have to constantly say mines bigger , better, badder, than yours ...
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It just occurred to me that I have been into A12's for a very long time and have never seen another buckets console 4spd with a radio delete,
KID
And you NEVER will , you can't DELETE an OPTION , the radio had to be ORDERED , it is an EXTRA COST OPTION ...
the one of one claim is for the INSECURE that have to constantly say mines bigger , better, badder, than yours ...
I understand this phrase that you cant delete an option is the new "IN" thing but, what do you call the plate that fits in place of the radio? isnt it called the radio delete plate?
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It just occurred to me that I have been into A12's for a very long time and have never seen another buckets console 4spd with a radio delete,
KID
And you NEVER will , you can't DELETE an OPTION , the radio had to be ORDERED , it is an EXTRA COST OPTION ...
the one of one claim is for the INSECURE that have to constantly say mines bigger , better, badder, than yours ...
I understand this phrase that you cant delete an option is the new "IN" thing but, what do you call the plate that fits in place of the radio? isnt it called the radio delete plate?
It's not an "in" thing. Radio delete is an improper term and description. You had to order a radio as a either a stand alone option or within a package. Therefore, you cannot delete an option. You can only delete something that was standard like a stripe or heater.
The term 'radio delete" would be like saying a car was a PS, PB, PW, or tinted window delete car.
The proper common term is just a block off plate but if you look in the parts book, they are called a bezel.
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Steve, since the Lynch Rd radio option wasn't on the fender tag, is there just a blank on your broadcast sheet?
Rick.
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I'm afraid that arguing the "delete" thing again is just stupid! My car has a Radio Delete Plate on the dash where my radio would be if one had been odered! Radio delete is just nice and easy to say and really not the topic of this thread, but thanks for bringing it up once again!
See you at the reunion! My car is the one with the radio delete plate in the spot where a radio normally is! Be sure to stop by and say hello!
KID
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Has anyone bursted his bubble yet regarding the 1 of 1 thing? The more he is set straight, the better chance the car will be respected as it is fixed up.
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My head hurts.......
... so my car is a R/T hood delete, who else has one of those??
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Body Style, Motor and Trans should be a far as one goes when breaking down a car.
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Steve, since the Lynch Rd radio option wasn't on the fender tag, is there just a blank on your broadcast sheet?
Rick.
I was going to ask if he had a Broadcast sheet ...
It did have a battery mounted in the trunk and electric fuel pump though. It was always somobody's toy and only had 44k on the ticker.Quote:
Even if it was an option, it's always been called radio delete. Even if you special ordered a car the salesman would always try to talk you into a radio just for resale value. IMO If you didn't order a radio it was the same as deleting it.
I like this!
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Body Style, Motor and Trans should be a far as one goes when breaking down a car.
Ahem. This was my point in regards to the car being an auto on the floor car. Sorry to have caused such an stir.
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Body Style, Motor and Trans should be a far as one goes when breaking down a car.
Ahem. This was my point in regards to the car being an auto on the floor car. Sorry to have caused such an stir.
Doesn't matter if it was auto on column or floor when breaking down numbers.
With bucket seats, on the floor with console is more common than column, either doesn't count when considering 1 of XXX.
Going further than body and drivetrain is just an ego trip for yourself, since you don't see it that way, enjoy the ride.
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Even if it was an option, it's always been called radio delete. Even if you special ordered a car the salesman would always try to talk you into a radio just for resale value. IMO If you didn't order a radio it was the same as deleting it.
I actually agree that the radio was not deleted, but I'm still saying "radio delete"! Now just because it bothers people! At least everyone knows what you mean and you don't have to explain it! Other than too the goofballs that keep bringing it up!
KID
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Ahhhhh I miss the ol A12 threads!
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Do not forget the most coveted "hood hinge delete". Hub cap delete too.
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It just occurred to me that I have been into A12's for a very long time and have never seen another buckets console 4spd with a radio delete, but I've never thought for a minute that my car is a one of one. This type of thought seems to come from people new to the lift off hobby. I've seen it a few times, but it has never bothered me. If we brake our cars down by all of the options as stated earlier in this thread there are going to be quite a few seemingly one off cars! Just because we don't see another doesn't mean there aren't more?
KID
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You now its funny I have a car the same color with white bucket seats and concil shift so is my car rare???????????????????????????????????????????
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You know it's funny I have a car the same color with white bucket seats and console shift so is my car rare???????????????????????????????????????????
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Red wall tire delete too.
The MCG article it practically writing itself.
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Yep, radio non-delete, H-wheel delete, non-side scoop delete, black tail stripe delete, vinyl roof delete, black interior delete, steel hood delete, fender mounted turn signal non-delete, and a paint and bend delete fender tag.........
MikeR
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Yep, radio non-delete, H-wheel delete, non-side scoop delete, black tail stripe delete, vinyl roof delete, black interior delete, steel hood delete, fender mounted turn signal non-delete, and a paint and bend delete fender tag.........
MikeR
So this one came with hood hinges?
how about a/c, cruise control and trailer tow delete. 
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For anyone reading too much into any comments here......
You may suffer from Whacky Sense of Humor Delete.
A whacky sense of humor is a terrible thing to waste............
Thanks for the laughs guys, you know who you are.
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If more people would modify their cars, we'd never have these silly resto fights
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my bee is butter s./tan buckets/4 spd , console, red butt stripe, and it also has the super-rare
radio-does-not-work-from-the-factory-option
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Ahhhhh I miss the ol A12 threads!
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Thanks for showing a pic of my junk mike and yes I drive it and race it when I have time and yes I drive it in the rain
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Ahhhhh I miss the ol A12 threads!
Does anyone know which wingnut is the correct one for the aircleaner lid?
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my bee is butter s./tan buckets/4 spd , console, red butt stripe, and it also has the super-rare
radio-does-not-work-from-the-factory-option
So you are the one who bought Ron's bee ...
My bee has the A12 DELETE option < ... How COOL is that ?
- i bought the bee from a fellow named larry.
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Ahhhhh I miss the ol A12 threads!
Does anyone know which wingnut is the correct one for the aircleaner lid?
Speaking of "wingnuts" how the heck are you doing Jim
Did you use Pledge on that hood?
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I just want to know if anyone has mentioned the one that was in Mopar action about 10 years ago with the red engine bay that was a factory repaint for the magazines and I believe it wasn't even coded as an A12 on the fender tag.
Now that's a RARE color combo
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my bee is butter s./tan buckets/4 spd , console, red butt stripe, and it also has the super-rare
radio-does-not-work-from-the-factory-option
So you are the one who bought Ron's bee ...
My bee has the A12 DELETE option < ... How COOL is that ?
ron???
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He must have bought it from him them , that car was owned by a member from NYC area that went by paris401
interesting, i have the previous owners names/addresses (5), and none from ny.
maybe there are more then 1 with this combo..
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He must have bought it from him them , that car was owned by a member from NYC area that went by paris401
interesting, i have the previous owners names/addresses (5), and none from ny.
maybe there are more then 1 with this combo..