Information Binder on Car

Good evening! I honestly don't know if this would be the right place to ask, but the kid and I have a question. She is putting together a binder of pictures and information on the car. She would like to know what kind of stuff do you think she should add? There is production numbers for the GTX, a copy of the broadcast sheet, the breakdown/decoding of the broadcast sheet she did (explaining each line), and I am working on getting together old pictures. What else should we add?

A copy of the SIAC record. ;-)

Not a bad idea, Barry.

Not sure about this 70 GTX obsession

On a serious note

I would add:

Magazine Reviews from 1970
Rapid Transit Literature
Anything found on the car that wasn't correct - mine for example has two emissions stickers, facing in opposite directions.
Pictures galore
Owner History as far back as you can go

I just replied to your email.

Mapquest says your location is 15-20 minutes away from where the owner lived back in 1985, so it might be fun to drive over there with the car sometime just to see if he is still there.....

Great idea!!

That would be a good way to create your own luck.

Even if they are not there, being the real deal with the car parked in front of the house might stir up a neighbor or two and lead to great opportunity. Drive by twice and park right in front of house. Be real obvious. Pick a good time on Saturday or Sunday when everyone is home... I’lll take a WAG at maybe 11 am Saturday?? Others’ suggestions.

People aren’t real hip on talking to stranglers at thier door with stories. But with the car to point to, changes everything.

Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Conference???

Special Interest Auto Club

Thanks for the ideas, Morty! I found some of the old Rapid Transit literature that I'll print out in the next few days. The kid printed out the press releases from her favorite site (a.k.a Barry's Hamtramck Historical). Then she found photos from another website of official press release photos. She also found an article from an old newspaper that she pieced together. Her next thing is finding the magazine reviews from 1970.

A few other things, depending on how much/what kind of stuff you want:

Road tests
Magazine ad pages
Salesman's Price/Order Guide
Sales brochure
Reproduction Monroney label that the car would have worn @ dealership

Obviously if you want to document that specific car, LOTS of photos of everything on it, as already stated.

Original Monroney labels can help document a car.

New ones made up out of thin air have no value at all.

Oh I forgot

You need the postcard. Do you have that?

I think that the reason so many GTXs are FK5

FK5 was a popular color with the Chrysler brass.

Most of the Chrysler executive lease / salesman 1970 Challengers I have seen information on so far are FK5.

Probably because it's an awesome color

Yeah, it's OK

Barry, I'm not suggesting a fake/misleading/fraudulent Monroney.
That's why I worded it the way I did, which I thought was pretty clear.

The great thing about 1970 is all the color choices.

I wanted to load a photo, but it isn't happening.

Yes it's a cool color, it turns gold in the sun and then it looks great. Hard to impossible to duplicate the correct factory look of this paint in today's world.

Hi, Morty.

I just purchased one today after seeing your mention of it! Thanks for the suggestion.

I think I remember something about it being one of the top three colors sold that year aside from B5 - Blue Fire Metallic.

Email it to me if you want & I'll see what I can do.

If it is the car I think it is, it is a stunner.

My GTX is original paint and I have seen numerous cars repainted FK5 where it is way, way off. Usually it's base coat / clear coat and it's way to light.

top 3 GTX colors for '70 are:
#1 EB5
#2 FK5
#3 EF8

these 3 colors account for more than 1/3 of production

You are so right, Morty. I remember the kid thought this snippet that the kid saved from the Graveyard Carz website back from last Novemeber about FK5 that she thought was interesting.

This was the snippet: "When tinting a color like Burnt Orange, different paint is used to try and match the exact color. To lighten the tint, either white or yellow is added, and to darken the tint, black is added. This is a very delicate process and it can be easy to ruin a batch of paint if too much pigment is added. After this process is done the paint is then thinned down for spraying."

The kid's stuck on decoding the broadcast sheet. She's having some difficulty with the third line. More specifically the difficulty is with the steering column and steering wheel type box too. Any ideas on what the code 16 is? It's listed 16TT. She knows from a book that the TT is the color code for the wheel and that its Wood grain. No idea about the correct steering wheel type code, though.

16TT should be a wood grain steering wheel

08X9 would be the standard black wheel

Thank you for the confirmation on the color code.

Also, do you have any idea what the number 16 in front of the TT means? Or does it just go along with the TT?

I believe, and Dan can correct me if I am wrong, that the first two digits are wheel type and the last two are color.

08 - Standard Wheel
X9 - Black

16 - Wood Wheel
TT - Wood Color

Okay, thanks. The kid has been using a Decoding Series manual book and it wasn't too explanatory. I am trying to help her. I am pretty sure some of the book is inaccurate.

correct - the full part number for the woodgrain '70 b-body steering wheel is - 4016 FTT

I have a factory quart of FK5 lacquer - it is a great color

Original paint X

It still looks great! Not a day over forty.

The research has been coming along well! The kid has been hitting some roadblocks with the buildsheet deciphering, but she's getting through it slowly.

Big thanks to Barry for the SIAC sheet it was really cool to see and to show to people in the binder at car shows.

Anyway, I was wondering does anyone know what happened to the records after the Chrysler Historical museum closed? Who might have them?

There were no records at the Chrysler Historical Museum.

It's believed that most records were destroyed in the Chrysler building fire.

So what we have is a lot of guys trying to reconstruct the data from the forensic evidence.

Thanks, Chris! I was partially unsure. I heard there was a fire, but I also saw something online called Chrysler Historical Collection or something? That is why I was a 100% unsure.

https://maxwedge.com/research/cchist.php