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bent fan blade

Posted By: gregok

bent fan blade - 10/18/17 10:42 PM

I have a seven blade fan for my mopar and it has one belt blade. Are those fixable or will it always be unbalanced? It is not bent too bad and could be put very close to its original position. I don't know how sensitive these fans are to not being exactly factory perfect. TIA
Posted By: Morty426

Re: bent fan blade - 10/19/17 03:16 AM

Is it worth it? When fans it's not pretty and there is a lot of collateral damage.
Posted By: kentj340

Re: bent fan blade - 10/19/17 04:45 AM

I used to be a steel supplier to a large steel fan maker named Schwitzer in Rolla, MO, now closed due to the auto industry's switch to little pinto bean style front wheel drive cars with sideways engines and plastic fans.

In Schwitzer's conference room, there was a framed blueprint of a Model T fan that Schwitzer once made. I remember passing by the Chrysler St Louis assembly plant each time I drove to Rolla.

Fan BLADES for manly V8 rear wheel drive cars were made of ordinary quality cold rolled steel that had been annealed or softened following cold rolling which work hardens it. A slightly bent and straightened blade should present no problem if it was slightly bent once and straightened once. Work hardening and brittleness could happen if a blade were bent and straightened many times in the same place, just like bending a coat hanger many times in the same place will eventually break.

The fan HUB, the thicker material in the center to which the blades are riveted, is the most critical part. This part is made of special fatigue resistant quality steel, as the hub is subject to deformation in use. That is, the pitch that each spoke of the hub is bent to will tend to unbend from high speed wind resistance, then spring back at slower speeds. Since this is fatigue resistant steel (meaning resistant to work hardening), bending and straightening once or a few times should not cause any work hardening or embrittlement. FWIW, fan hubs were made of exactly the same fatigue resistant quality of steel as steel wheels, which take a lot of deformation in cornering, the reason hub caps are most often lost at corners. The constant deformation of steel wheels in use is sometimes the cause of cracking in the hub-to-rim weld, creating an air leak. This happened to me once.

If it were my car, I would straighten the blade and not worry about it. But I would never stand beside any fast running fan in any case, bent or never bent.

By the way, as OEM steel fan hubs were made of special quality steel, I would never trust that any aftermarket steel fan hub is made of the same.
Posted By: gregok

Re: bent fan blade - 10/19/17 05:26 AM

Thanks for the great info.
Posted By: kentj340

Re: bent fan blade - 10/19/17 07:22 AM

Look closely on your fan, and you might find "Schwitzer" embossed somewhere in tiny letters. I found that once on a GM fan. Not sure if Schwitzer supplied to Chrysler or if Chrysler made their own.

An interesting thing to notice about steel fans: the blades are unevenly spaced for noise cancellation. So you could say they were maybe a bit unbalanced when new. AFAIK there was no balancing operation as a part of fan manufacture, unless you can find evidence of adding or subtracting weights.
Posted By: FJR doc

Re: bent fan blade - 10/19/17 03:36 PM

Thanks for the great info kent.
Posted By: 70gtx440dana

Re: bent fan blade - 10/19/17 06:26 PM

Originally Posted By kentj340
Look closely on your fan, and you might find "Schwitzer" embossed somewhere in tiny letters. I found that once on a GM fan. Not sure if Schwitzer supplied to Chrysler or if Chrysler made their own.

An interesting thing to notice about steel fans: the blades are unevenly spaced for noise cancellation. So you could say they were maybe a bit unbalanced when new. AFAIK there was no balancing operation as a part of fan manufacture, unless you can find evidence of adding or subtracting weights.



They are balanced regardless of even or uneven spacing. Look closely at the construction and you will see that there are design features that allow for the balancing on uneven blade designs.
Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: bent fan blade - 10/19/17 06:30 PM

Originally Posted By 70gtx440dana



They are balanced regardless of even or uneven spacing. Look closely at the construction in you will see.



Agreed on the balancing, as far as the OP "repairing" the fan, I've bent back to shape many 4,5,7 blade fans over the decades with ZERO issues
Posted By: gregok

Re: bent fan blade - 10/19/17 11:27 PM

Alrighty then. I will bend it carefully back and see what happens. Thanks to everyone for their comments.
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