Posted By: Triggerfish
Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake needed - 02/03/09 03:30 PM
Could someone post a pic of a real 67 WO/RO superstock inline 2x4 Hemi intake? Thanks much.
Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake needed
Posted By: fastmark
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake needed - 02/03/09 04:29 PM
I have one and some pics but they are too big to post. It was on a complete 67 WO motor I had. I am afraid I don't know how to downsize them. I can send them to someone. I am not sure if it shows what you need or not. I was going to put it on the bag and never got around to it.
Posted By: fastmark
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake needed - 02/03/09 04:32 PM
Yup, I have good pics that show the special work. I might could get my daughter to come home after her classes get out and post them.
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/03/09 04:38 PM
Posted By: Triggerfish
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/03/09 05:06 PM
Thank you to you & Mark for getting the pics for me. I bought a WO intake a few yrs ago (or at least was told it was a real WO), & hope its the real deal & not another ebay ripoff.
Posted By: JRepucci
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake needed - 02/03/09 08:17 PM
pics.
Posted By: JRepucci
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake needed - 02/03/09 08:17 PM
pic2
Posted By: JRepucci
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake needed - 02/03/09 08:18 PM
pic3
Posted By: Kirby
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/03/09 08:28 PM
Forgive my ignorance- but exactly how do you tell. I think the intake on my Hemi has been altered the same way- if I'm looking at the right things-
Posted By: JRepucci
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake needed - 02/03/09 08:28 PM
This intake is a 68-69, the modification is exact to the Vanke specifications. There is some rumors that the RO/WO cars didn't have them on them when the cars were new, but then they couldn't have had the cheater carbs on them either(carbs will not open because the throttle bores are to small) This is the second one of these intakes that I have had, the first was on a 68 hemi GTX that I had and within the paper work for the car was the reciept for the intake. The modified intakes were done on an exchange basis.
Posted By: JRepucci
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/03/09 08:31 PM
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Forgive my ignorance- but exactly how do you tell. I think the intake on my Hemi has been altered the same way- if I'm looking at the right things-
I don't think they are that uncommon.... the cuts... the center divide radius and the welded in runners.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/03/09 08:56 PM
I agree with that Jason, there is a TON of misinformation out there about the factory correct details of the RO/WO cars. I'd kill to have the chance at seeing an unmolested "survivor" example for some details, especially the engine and trunk areas. To date I've got photos of a single low mile WO car but even that one had it's engine removed, stripped down, and detailed by a past owner with good intentions, too bad he ruined a bunch of original details that are now gone forver. If you or anyone else here knows of a true survivor example PLEASE let me know.
Cheers!
Scott
Cheers!
Scott
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/03/09 09:38 PM
It is much harder to find a hemi intake that has NOT had this modification than ones that DO have it. If the manifold is date coded correct and has the modification there is no way to prove or disprove who or when it was done.
Posted By: JRepucci
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/03/09 10:00 PM
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It is much harder to find a hemi intake that has NOT had this modification than ones that DO have it. If the manifold is date coded correct and has the modification there is no way to prove or disprove who or when it was done.
I have several NON-modified hemi intakes. I do not doubt that there are allot of modified intakes out there, but most were done with hack saw blades and die grinders(I have one of those too). The reality of someone doing the modification right... or exact without a/the spec. sheet or a real example is zero. If I explained to someone what it was supposed to look like its not likely they are going to go out in the garage and do it. And then again even if someone had the blueprint for the mod. would have the tools or ability to do it.
Aruzza is making new ones(machining the new MP intake) and selling them on E-bay but I didn't see the welded in runner... so there is an example of someone with the tools and they are still not doing it exact.
I was told that Vanke modified HEMI intakes into the early 70's and I also heard that DLI did the same mod.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/03/09 10:30 PM
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It is much harder to find a hemi intake that has NOT had this modification than ones that DO have it. If the manifold is date coded correct and has the modification there is no way to prove or disprove who or when it was done.
I have several NON-modified hemi intakes. I do not doubt that there are allot of modified intakes out there, but most were done with hack saw blades and die grinders(I have one of those too). The reality of someone doing the modification right... or exact without a/the spec. sheet or a real example is zero. If I explained to someone what it was supposed to look like its not likely they are going to go out in the garage and do it. And then again even if someone had the blueprint for the mod. would have the tools or ability to do it.
Aruzza is making new ones(machining the new MP intake) and selling them on E-bay but I didn't see the welded in runner... so there is an example of someone with the tools and they are still not doing it exact.
I was told that Vanke modified HEMI intakes into the early 70's and I also heard that DLI did the same mod.
Any local machine shop can still do one today for about $50. It was in several hot rod magazines back in the day as a "how to" and I believe in some Mopar factory info as well. There are MANY of them around and done the same way Vanke did it from day one.
Posted By: sawdust
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/03/09 11:16 PM
I had an early hemi intake that had the Vanke mod and was also stamped "VANKE".
Posted By: sawdust
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/03/09 11:17 PM
Pic two of stamping......
Posted By: mickm
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/04/09 12:02 AM
what were the supposed gains from running these manifolds? quite a lot of them were done, so i assume it was some pretty decent gains on them. anyone have some numbers or characteristics?
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/04/09 12:04 AM
I don't have any numbers but it helped them breath at higher RPMS. Most report a trade off with slight loss in torque at lower RPMs as well
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/04/09 12:32 AM
I don't know if Landy changed his over the years but I have seen one of his and it was different than the "Vanke".
I'm buying a repro manifold and when it get's here I am going to "Vanke" it and try it on the 472.
Sheldon
I'm buying a repro manifold and when it get's here I am going to "Vanke" it and try it on the 472.
Sheldon
Posted By: sawdust
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/04/09 02:28 AM
Had a Vanke with stock carbs on one of our auto hemi 66 satellites, and it had zero bottom end. Really needed a high stall converter as low end would not run correctly, total bog mobile. Would love to see numbers on dyno for modern day assessment.
Posted By: fastmark
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/04/09 03:09 AM
Mine looks just the same only the welding is a little neater.
Posted By: JRepucci
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/04/09 04:22 AM
I'm using mine on a 426 cid engine with RO/WO cheater carbs(2 750 cfm carters 4325,4326), Racer Brown .590 solid cam and NOS 2" "hustle stuff" header....should make around 425 hp:)
Posted By: Triggerfish
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/04/09 04:45 AM
Looks like mine's just a hack job that someone pawned off as the real deal. Here's a pic that shows how both plenums are totally hogged out. I recently bought one from John Arruzza, to go w/ a larger cam (solid flat tappet) & 750 eddys, but am worried that I'll loose a lot of low end & mid range. A Stage 5 intake will make a lot more power & torque, but will loose the stock look. I'm also concerned about the correct height for my Shaker.
Posted By: 6PakBee
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/04/09 11:40 AM
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It is much harder to find a hemi intake that has NOT had this modification than ones that DO have it. If the manifold is date coded correct and has the modification there is no way to prove or disprove who or when it was done.
Where is the date code?
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/04/09 02:44 PM
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Looks like mine's just a hack job that someone pawned off as the real deal. Here's a pic that shows how both plenums are totally hogged out. I recently bought one from John Arruzza, to go w/ a larger cam (solid flat tappet) & 750 eddys, but am worried that I'll loose a lot of low end & mid range. A Stage 5 intake will make a lot more power & torque, but will loose the stock look. I'm also concerned about the correct height for my Shaker.
Sounds like you paid more for it because someone CLAIMED it was an original race piece , unless you have an original RO/WO car that you are restoring that would make little sense , but it's your money , I'm not here judging you .
Posted By: Triggerfish
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/04/09 03:34 PM
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Looks like mine's just a hack job that someone pawned off as the real deal. Here's a pic that shows how both plenums are totally hogged out. I recently bought one from John Arruzza, to go w/ a larger cam (solid flat tappet) & 750 eddys, but am worried that I'll loose a lot of low end & mid range. A Stage 5 intake will make a lot more power & torque, but will loose the stock look. I'm also concerned about the correct height for my Shaker.
Sounds like you paid more for it because someone CLAIMED it was an original race piece , unless you have an original RO/WO car that you are restoring that would make little sense , but it's your money , I'm not here judging you .
I was looking for performance parts for a hemi I was building that would keep the stock look & was told the Vanke intake would be the ticket. But being a novice & trusting a "friend's" advice, I bought it. Too bad I bought it when Mopar cars & parts (especially Hemi), were at their zenith.
I wanted to compare it to the repop I bought from Arruzza & see which one would perform the best.
Here's a pic of the numbers.
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/04/09 03:52 PM
fastmark sent me his pics , I'll get them up later .
I also have a vanke modded intake at home , never noticed the internal added dams , I'll have to check it out .
opening the plenum does kill the bottom end torque , done to help on the launch and give more plenum volume for the top end , not a good idea I would think for a street car .
Trigger , you mentioned the stage 5 intake , there is available a shaker baseplate to use that intake , incase you didn't realize that .
I also have a vanke modded intake at home , never noticed the internal added dams , I'll have to check it out .
opening the plenum does kill the bottom end torque , done to help on the launch and give more plenum volume for the top end , not a good idea I would think for a street car .
Trigger , you mentioned the stage 5 intake , there is available a shaker baseplate to use that intake , incase you didn't realize that .
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/05/09 12:50 AM
I briefly ran a Vanke about 1980 in a street car with automatic, stock convertor and it ran pretty darn well. It didn't fall on it's face in comparison with a stock intake on the low end. If I only had a 426 and I wasn't happy with the lowend I would just put some convertor into it, I don't think the lowend would be a deal-breaker.
Sheldon
Sheldon
Posted By: JRepucci
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/05/09 02:44 AM
4.10 gear would be good.....4.56's would be great.
Posted By: Triggerfish
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/05/09 03:28 AM
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fastmark sent me his pics , I'll get them up later .
I also have a vanke modded intake at home , never noticed the internal added dams , I'll have to check it out .
opening the plenum does kill the bottom end torque , done to help on the launch and give more plenum volume for the top end , not a good idea I would think for a street car .
Trigger , you mentioned the stage 5 intake , there is available a shaker baseplate to use that intake , incase you didn't realize that .
I know they make a Shaker baseplate, but the Stage 5 doesn't look stock. The Shaker pretty much hides the carbs & most of the intake, so it may be an option. I could modify my baseplate to fit the larger eddys, so that would save some $$.
I've got a Dana w/ 3.73's & a 4 spd & a decent lift solid lifter cam, so a little higher powerband might be ok. THe Chally's over 4K lbs w/ the hemi, so need all the torque the hemi will give. I noticed the welded in dams on the vanke photo & my Arruzza repop doesn't have that feature. Maybe I should weld it in? I only plan on spinning the motor to 6500, so do you think the Vanke mod is a good idea?
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/05/09 10:14 PM
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I know they make a Shaker baseplate, but the Stage 5 doesn't look stock. The Shaker pretty much hides the carbs & most of the intake, so it may be an option. I could modify my baseplate to fit the larger eddys, so that would save some $$.
I've got a Dana w/ 3.73's & a 4 spd & a decent lift solid lifter cam, so a little higher powerband might be ok. THe Chally's over 4K lbs w/ the hemi, so need all the torque the hemi will give. I noticed the welded in dams on the vanke photo & my Arruzza repop doesn't have that feature. Maybe I should weld it in? I only plan on spinning the motor to 6500, so do you think the Vanke mod is a good idea?
You have to open up the holes , spread them as the carbs are further apart , AND make the base a drop base because the intake is taller .
When the shaker is on no one can see the intake , plus it's worth 50HP .
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/05/09 10:16 PM
here are fastmarks pics , sorry for the delay
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Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/05/09 10:16 PM
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Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/05/09 10:17 PM
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Posted By: Triggerfish
Re: Photo of authentic Vanke 67 WO/RO hemi intake neede - 02/06/09 05:24 AM
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Thanks for the photo. It shows the welded in dam clearly. Is its purpose to equalize the distance air has to flow, to compensate for the unequal length runners? Does it add low end torque? I'm about to go w/the Stage 5 intake & eddy 750's & sell the "vanke" repop that John made. Shoot, if I sell it w/ the original 69 hemi carbs, that'd pay for the cam swap & Stage 5 setup, too.