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Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body

Posted By: Larry

Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/08/14 05:22 PM

Can anyone tell me what finish/color the two brackets attached to the rear frame rails are supposed to have on them. I was told they are tie down brackets for rail transport???
Posted By: 469runner

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/08/14 06:07 PM

Mine were bare metal, rust.
Posted By: 67vertman

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/08/14 06:39 PM

And partly sprayed with Rust preventive from the factory when they did the wheel wells.
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/08/14 11:51 PM

I painted mine chassis black.
Posted By: Larry

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/09/14 03:43 PM

Thanks for the replies guys. I think chassis black will be the ticket.
Posted By: hemi68charger

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/09/14 04:54 PM

I just acquired a '70 Challenger T/A and this question is of interest. I know people have painted them black, but what color (or not), were they supposed to be
Posted By: Larry

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/09/14 05:48 PM

Mine do look like they were probably bare metal to start with, and then took an assortment of finishes over the years. Some of which was probably the overspray from the wheel well undercoating at the factory.
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/09/14 05:51 PM

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I just acquired a '70 Challenger T/A and this question is of interest. I know people have painted them black, but what color (or not), were they supposed to be



I don't know for sure, here is a 74 that I pressure washed before taking it apart. They look rusty to me with no coating.


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It looks like my 71 had gold over spray on it?
Posted By: 67vertman

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/09/14 06:16 PM

Let me look, and take pictures of mine (1970 Cuda) when I get home. Mine are off the car and the car is original.
Posted By: 71redcuda

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/09/14 07:57 PM

They are bare metal.
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/10/14 03:50 AM

They are bare metal and are installed before under coating
Posted By: hemi68charger

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/10/14 05:09 PM

from me, thanks guys.. If mine are painted, then I will strip it and put it back bare ( with a clear protective coating of course ).
Posted By: jt4406

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/10/14 06:43 PM

Here's an example of an overdone set (my car)...

jt

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Posted By: rickseeman

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/11/14 09:10 PM

I like overdone
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/11/14 09:20 PM

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Here's an example of an overdone set (my car)...

jt



I'd eat off that car!!
Posted By: jose jones

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/11/14 11:26 PM

As a teenager working in the family's Chrysler Dealership doing new car prep we would just take them off, they we used for shipping and served no other purpose
Posted By: 44D6PAKCUDA

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/11/14 11:59 PM

How did you refinish those tie downs?
Posted By: Larry

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/12/14 03:14 AM

Very helpful. Thanks everyone.
Posted By: mccannix

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/13/14 12:54 AM

Apparently Chrysler expected some line workers to install these incorrectly so issued this double sided bulletin to dealers in October 1969.

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Posted By: mccannix

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/13/14 12:55 AM

...other side.

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Posted By: mccannix

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/13/14 12:57 AM

Here's an untouched original on my 71 Cuda with factory undercoating

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Posted By: Troy

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/13/14 01:55 AM

On my old T/A they were natural and then dipped in Cosmoline (sp?)and then installed. No question about it.

Posted By: nomore65BelvJim

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/13/14 02:54 AM

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As a teenager working in the family's Chrysler Dealership doing new car prep we would just take them off, they we used for shipping and served no other purpose



Sounds logical...BURN HIM!

Why put them back on the car when they should have been removed at the dealer in the first place?
I doubt there is a code on the tag or broadcast sheet for them
Posted By: RP's R/T's

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/13/14 03:53 PM

On the car I am working on now (March/April 1970 build) the LH bracket has 'LH' stamped into the area between the bolts.
I wonder if they did that in response to the line worker issue.

That bulletin is funny. Kind of odd that they would go through all the effort to say you may have received a car that has these in the wrong position, and here's a crappy sketch of how they should be installed...but just throw them away. Nevermind, nothing to see here
Posted By: Grizzly

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/13/14 08:56 PM

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As a teenager working in the family's Chrysler Dealership doing new car prep we would just take them off, they we used for shipping and served no other purpose



Sounds logical...BURN HIM!

Why put them back on the car when they should have been removed at the dealer in the first place?
I doubt there is a code on the tag or broadcast sheet for them



Yep, burn me too. A lot of hooey over a few pounds of ugly dead weight.

Mine are all going in the scrap metal pile.

Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/13/14 09:47 PM

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As a teenager working in the family's Chrysler Dealership doing new car prep we would just take them off, they we used for shipping and served no other purpose



Sounds logical...BURN HIM!

Why put them back on the car when they should have been removed at the dealer in the first place?
I doubt there is a code on the tag or broadcast sheet for them



Yep, burn me too. A lot of hooey over a few pounds of ugly dead weight.

Mine are all going in the scrap metal pile.






Same here first thing to hit the trash can when "cleaning up" the underside of useless factory trash
Posted By: Stewpar

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/13/14 11:08 PM

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As a teenager working in the family's Chrysler Dealership doing new car prep we would just take them off, they we used for shipping and served no other purpose



Sounds logical...BURN HIM!

Why put them back on the car when they should have been removed at the dealer in the first place?
I doubt there is a code on the tag or broadcast sheet for them



Yep, burn me too. A lot of hooey over a few pounds of ugly dead weight.

Mine are all going in the scrap metal pile.






Same here first thing to hit the trash can when "cleaning up" the underside of useless factory trash



X3, not supposed to be there.......
Posted By: nomore65BelvJim

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/13/14 11:12 PM

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As a teenager working in the family's Chrysler Dealership doing new car prep we would just take them off, they we used for shipping and served no other purpose



Sounds logical...BURN HIM!

Why put them back on the car when they should have been removed at the dealer in the first place?
I doubt there is a code on the tag or broadcast sheet for them



Yep, burn me too. A lot of hooey over a few pounds of ugly dead weight.

Mine are all going in the scrap metal pile.




Just toss em on Ebay...someone is bound to think their car is "missing" them
Posted By: 67vertman

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/13/14 11:32 PM

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As a teenager working in the family's Chrysler Dealership doing new car prep we would just take them off, they we used for shipping and served no other purpose



Sounds logical...BURN HIM!

Why put them back on the car when they should have been removed at the dealer in the first place?
I doubt there is a code on the tag or broadcast sheet for them



Yep, burn me too. A lot of hooey over a few pounds of ugly dead weight.

Mine are all going in the scrap metal pile.




Just toss em on Ebay...someone is bound to think their car is "missing" them




Yeap, and tell them they are off a "1971 Hemi convertible"...and you can get the rest of the money you need to build your car.
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/14/14 02:39 PM

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As a teenager working in the family's Chrysler Dealership doing new car prep we would just take them off, they we used for shipping and served no other purpose



Sounds logical...BURN HIM!

Why put them back on the car when they should have been removed at the dealer in the first place?
I doubt there is a code on the tag or broadcast sheet for them



Yep, burn me too. A lot of hooey over a few pounds of ugly dead weight.

Mine are all going in the scrap metal pile.




Just toss em on Ebay...someone is bound to think their car is "missing" them




Yeap, and tell them they are off a "1971 Hemi convertible"...and you can get the rest of the money you need to build your car.



I agree, they should be removed and tossed in the scrap pile. Years ago I was excited to find something so heavy that I could remove easily to make my cars go faster.

Then 25 years later I do my first real restore on a different car and put them back on because they were there when I started the restore. Shoot now I just may go out and remove them the more I think about it.
Posted By: drgordi

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/15/14 01:35 AM

Kinda funny but on my 71 Maverick Grabber this and the tie downs are still on the car. just goes to show that instructions don't always get followed.

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Posted By: 67vertman

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/15/14 01:55 AM

Strange that they where supposed to be removed, yet so many cars had them left on.

As for leaving them on or off, it should be up to the current owner. Mine came with them, but I for one am leaving them off.
Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/15/14 02:01 AM

Just lazy PDIing at the dealer. The way I look at it, they were on my car when it left the dealer so they should be on it now.

Sheldon
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/15/14 02:06 AM

The TSB mentions removing them if they were installed on the wrong sides.

It also states that they served no purpose after delivery, so do what you will.


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Posted By: SNK-EYZ

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/15/14 08:58 AM

Some where in all my junk I have a set of the tie down hooks/brackets that the car haulers used to attach the chains to.
They're made to use those brackets to tie the car down for transport.

I got them from a buddy that retired from Cassen Transport (deliver the cars to the dealers).

Some day I'll find then when I start going through all the boxes of junk from my last move 3 years ago.
Posted By: Larry

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/22/14 04:33 PM

Wow. Way more info on tie downs than I would ever have expected. That is why this site is so great. I have to wonder now what the car show judges would have to say about a part like this being on or off a car??? Not that I am concerned with car show points, but because I went from wondering what color they should be to thinking that I should just discard them. Thanks again
Posted By: Stewpar

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/22/14 06:52 PM

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Wow. Way more info on tie downs than I would ever have expected. That is why this site is so great. I have to wonder now what the car show judges would have to say about a part like this being on or off a car??? Not that I am concerned with car show points, but because I went from wondering what color they should be to thinking that I should just discard them. Thanks again



They aren't supposed to be there after deliver, therefore they shouldn't be on anyone's judging sheet......
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/22/14 07:48 PM

Read the TSB again, they were to be removed IF installed on the wrong sides.
Posted By: FY1TA

Re: Tie downs on rear frame rails - 70 E body - 12/22/14 08:36 PM

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Wow. Way more info on tie downs than I would ever have expected. That is why this site is so great. I have to wonder now what the car show judges would have to say about a part like this being on or off a car??? Not that I am concerned with car show points, but because I went from wondering what color they should be to thinking that I should just discard them. Thanks again



They aren't supposed to be there after deliver, therefore they shouldn't be on anyone's judging sheet......


Send them to me if they dont have any pits in them . They sell for 50.00 a set .
If they came on your car they should be put back on . 99 percent of them were never taken off .
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