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a12 air cleaner bases?

Posted By: cdp

a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 12:11 AM

So, I have here pics of my original a12 base that came on my roadrunner. I was on ebay and found this other base listed as tripower and got a real good deal on it.

After some serious comparisons, it really seems as though the base has been factory trimmed in a trim die. The edges are too even and smooth to be done by hand.

Also, the transition radius on the original a12 base thats at the front and back centerline and meets the pan area is not as smooth and crisp as the other base thats trimmed.

is it possible these bases were offered over he counter or part of hustle stuff parts?

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Posted By: cdp

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 12:13 AM

closer view....

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Posted By: Stanton

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 12:38 AM

I've never seen a stock base that looks like the one on the right. All the ones I've seen have had a lip of some sort around the base to seal to the cold air assembly, etc..

I have the old Hustle Stuff catalogs and have never seen one of those listed.
Posted By: cdp

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 01:59 AM

In the past three or so years, ive seen a few of these come up on eBay.
Posted By: Stanton

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 03:14 AM

Or maybe the guy's been trying to sell that one for three years !!
Posted By: mccannix

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 04:59 AM

I have never listed this one anywhere that I picked with lid a couple years ago.
It is like yours but definately a cut piece, not hacked but cut nice.
I'm sure they were never offered by Chrysler like this.

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Posted By: Stanton

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 05:36 AM

I imagine if someone were dropping one of these 6-pack motors into anything other than what it belongs in they might find the added material "ugly" for their purpose and would trim it off to be more aesthetically appealing. And I would imagine it happened more than once.
Posted By: cdp

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 01:02 PM

No. One was obviosly in a fire. One painted blue, and this one. I know most were probably trimmed down but this one seems unusually well done. No burrs, sharps, distortion, grinding marks, etc.
Posted By: Stanton

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 04:04 PM

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unusually well done




And you don't think a lot of people are capable of that ?!?!?!
Posted By: B5cudavert

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 05:06 PM

I believe these were used on a 70 challenger 440+6 car with the n94 option (T/A hood) when it was substituted for a shaker. They probably made a bunch but, as we now know only a few challengers did come this way. I`ve seen one like that years ago on a original car. Not the orig owner of the car though.
Posted By: booger

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 06:35 PM

I know a guy who has one cut like that on his A12 Superbee. It's always been on the car and was that way when he got the car back when he was in high school. Doesn't make one bit of sense why it was cut, but it was.
Posted By: mccannix

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 07:59 PM

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I believe these were used on a 70 challenger 440+6 car with the n94 option (T/A hood) when it was substituted for a shaker. They probably made a bunch but, as we now know only a few challengers did come this way. I`ve seen one like that years ago on a original car. Not the orig owner of the car though.


The cut version being discussed here was never used on an N94 Challenger 440-6.
Original blueprints exist that prove so.
Since the A12 air cleaner was one piece stamping( not counting the drain corners and extra tubes ) Fram, Chrysler's air cleaner supplier, would then have had to trim the whole excess lip area and discard it.
Cant see the wasted time and material for that ever happening.
The N94 was never 'substituted for a shaker'...N94 was an option just like N96.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 09:41 PM

I agree with Terry. The N94 hood was available as an option before the Challenger Shaker hoods were reintroduced, so the whole N94 for N96 substitution thing is a myth.
Posted By: rftroy

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/24/14 10:16 PM

There's a long thread on the N94 non-T/A Challengers now in this forum.
The Chrysler parts book lists the N94 440 six pack air cleaner as the same number as the T/A 340 six pack air cleaner.

Robert

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Posted By: moparpollack

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/26/14 03:43 PM

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I have never listed this one anywhere that I picked with lid a couple years ago.
It is like yours but definately a cut piece, not hacked but cut nice.
I'm sure they were never offered by Chrysler like this.




I've owned two like this both had the wide lip top and the cut bottom. The cuts on the bottom were rough and unfinished. One was bought in Oklahoma the other in Arizona so I bet they came from the same source.
Posted By: cdp

Re: a12 air cleaner bases? - 10/26/14 10:00 PM

I talked to the guy I bought it from. Hes had it for years and had no clue where he got it from or even it was a mopar part.

Probably a cut part. Coming from a tool and die back ground makes me think it came out of a trim die.
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