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Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car?

Posted By: 451Mopar

Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 12/29/08 06:08 PM

Is there anyone reproducing radiators fot the 1969 Coronet R/T with a 4-speed?

When I bought the car it had a bad radiator and it had the automatic transmission fittings.
Currently, I have an aluminum radiator in the car, but I am lookin for sonething that looks more correct.

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Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 12/29/08 06:57 PM

Glen-Ray Radiators
Posted By: 1969 HEMI R-T

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 12/30/08 03:28 AM

Hi,
I have a 055. needs redone.
Kevin
Posted By: 68CoronetRT

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 12/30/08 04:20 AM

http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/fbshopmain2.asp?cat=1
Posted By: Paul

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 12/30/08 04:27 PM

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Is there anyone reproducing radiators fot the 1969 Coronet R/T with a 4-speed?

When I bought the car it had a bad radiator and it had the automatic transmission fittings.
Currently, I have an aluminum radiator in the car, but I am lookin for sonething that looks more correct.




You should have a 2949054 26" radiator and it will have cooler ports in the lower tank. From the factory, they were plugged for 4-speed cars. Check your old radiator, it could have been the correct one, if not, contact Glen Ray as suggested above.
Posted By: 69CoronetRT

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 12/30/08 11:49 PM

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Is there anyone reproducing radiators fot the 1969 Coronet R/T with a 4-speed?

When I bought the car it had a bad radiator and it had the automatic transmission fittings.
Currently, I have an aluminum radiator in the car, but I am lookin for sonething that looks more correct.




You should have a 2949054 26" radiator and it will have cooler ports in the lower tank. From the factory, they were plugged for 4-speed cars. Check your old radiator, it could have been the correct one, if not, contact Glen Ray as suggested above.




The 055 was the standard radiator for the 4 speed with 3.54 gears. The 4:10 gears got the 054 radiator. The 055 is not that hard to find as it was used in A/C cars too.

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Posted By: blue67440's

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 12/31/08 02:29 AM

Doug,

The parts list shown doesn't differentiate between A33 and A34 cars for rads. - how do you know that 4:10's get the 054 and not the 055?

I believe you are right, just wanting to know more.

blue
Posted By: 69CoronetRT

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 12/31/08 05:52 AM

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Doug,

The parts list shown doesn't differentiate between A33 and A34 cars for rads. - how do you know that 4:10's get the 054 and not the 055?

I believe you are right, just wanting to know more.

blue




One way is through broadcast sheets. Here are an A33 and an A32 GTX. (I'll keep looking for a legible D21 A34 sheet)

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Posted By: 451Mopar

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 12/31/08 07:17 AM

Thanks everyone,

Bob from Glen Ray sent me a PM. I am just waiting to hear back on pricing and options.

I am not going the full restoration route with the car. I know it is fairly rare (1 of 99 4-speed convertibles built in 1969), but it is not numbers matching. It currently has a 1970 440 HP engine and I think the 833 trans had a vin stamped in it that decoded to a 1969 or 1970 GTX?

I have an extra 1969 440 engine that I am going to rebuild into a 505" stroker with the 440 source stealth heads. I haven't decided on an intake or exhaust yet, but I was thinking of maybe running a six-pack and maybe the manifolds so it would look fairly stock. If I can afford it I may install a Keisler 5-speed too.

Anyhow, I am looking for a stock looking / fitting radiator that can cool the 505" engine, although it will probbably have less than 550 HP.
Posted By: blue67440's

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 12/31/08 07:32 AM

451,

You never mentioned if your R/T is an A33 or A34 car, but if the pic. in your original post is the car in question, it looks like you have manual drum brakes, which would indicate the A33 Track Pack, A34 includes mandatory power discs. After seeing that pic I would lean towards the 2949 055 radiator.

blue
Posted By: 451Mopar

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 12/31/08 07:48 AM

Yes, the car was an A33 Track Pack with 3.54:1 Dana 60. It also was a non-fresh air car, but some previous owner install a 4.10 Dana 60, and the N96 fresh air system even though I believe it is from a 1970 model?
It has the 11"x3" manual drum brakes, and I updated them with the 1970 self adjusting brake hardware.

The car is a nice 20-foot car, but everything needs redone. Right now it is a decent car to cruse around in and take to shows, but the valve seals in the 440 must be shot as it is burning oil. I am planning on doing a slow multi-year restoration on the car, saving the body work for last so I can enjoy driving the car each summer.

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Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 01/01/09 12:12 AM

Doug, without a broadcast sheet a 055 or 054 COULD be correct although the 054/max cooling is the option. Im putting the 054/max cooling package in my R/T since I have no sheet and an Az car could easily have been ordered with it, beside I need the extra cooling

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Posted By: blue67440's

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 01/01/09 12:26 AM

After Doug posted the broadcast pic's last nite, I went to my file folders and found a scan of 2 69 charger R/T buildsheets I have, both are A33 & 440 cars and both are coded "55" for the radiator.

I wish I could scan them, but apparently our scanner is on the fritz, anyway, I would love to see a sheet for an A33 car coded for a "54" rad.

Doug or 6bblgt, ya got any thoughts?

blue
Posted By: RJS

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 01/01/09 12:36 AM

Doug "as usual" is correct. A A33 car would have the 055 rad. And another poster went on to say the car has manual drums so it can't be an A34 car that inturn would dictate the 054 rad... Very cool car by the way

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Posted By: 69CoronetRT

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 01/01/09 12:57 AM

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Doug, without a broadcast sheet a 055 or 054 COULD be correct although the 054/max cooling is the option. Im putting the 054/max cooling package in my R/T since I have no sheet and an Az car could easily have been ordered with it, beside I need the extra cooling




Dave, I understand why you would go that way but the Max cool package with 054 was not an option that could be ordered by itself. It came as a part of another option group such as trailer towing or the gear packages. Max Cool was also standard with the Hemi and A12 cars.

However...never say never. I would like to see a BS from an A33 car that shows 054 instead of 055.

Happy New Year to all
Posted By: 69CoronetRT

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 01/01/09 01:00 AM

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Doug or 6bblgt, ya got any thoughts?

blue




All the Charger and Coronet R/T and GTX A33 sheets I have show 55.
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 01/01/09 01:08 AM

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Doug, without a broadcast sheet a 055 or 054 COULD be correct although the 054/max cooling is the option. Im putting the 054/max cooling package in my R/T since I have no sheet and an Az car could easily have been ordered with it, beside I need the extra cooling




Dave, I understand why you would go that way but the Max cool package with 054 was not an option that could be ordered by itself. It came as a part of another option group such as trailer towing or the gear packages. Max Cool was also standard with the Hemi and A12 cars.

However...never say never. I would like to see a BS from an A33 car that shows 054 instead of 055.

Happy New Year to all




Doug, can you show me where the max cooling could not be ordered as a stand alone package, it did have its own designation, N51? I cant see why it could not have been ordered by itself.
Posted By: blue67440's

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 01/01/09 01:11 AM

Better yet Doug do the sheets you have for the A33 cars show N51 and N65?

blue
Posted By: 69CoronetRT

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 01/01/09 04:57 PM

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Doug, without a broadcast sheet a 055 or 054 COULD be correct although the 054/max cooling is the option. Im putting the 054/max cooling package in my R/T since I have no sheet and an Az car could easily have been ordered with it, beside I need the extra cooling




Dave, I understand why you would go that way but the Max cool package with 054 was not an option that could be ordered by itself. It came as a part of another option group such as trailer towing or the gear packages. Max Cool was also standard with the Hemi and A12 cars.

However...never say never. I would like to see a BS from an A33 car that shows 054 instead of 055.

Happy New Year to all




Doug, can you show me where the max cooling could not be ordered as a stand alone package, it did have its own designation, N51? I cant see why it could not have been ordered by itself.




Dave, you're asking me to prove a negative and that's not possible.

Not all build codes, such as N51, are options that can be ordered by a customer.

If N51 was an option that could be ordered, it would show up in the data book, the salesman book, pricing updates, window stickers and the options and accessories report with cost as appropriate.

I can think of a couple of other build codes, such N97 (noise reduction), that show up on the BS but were not options that could be ordered. The incusion of the components indicated by the build code were triggered by other factors in the construction or sale of the car.

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Better yet Doug do the sheets you have for the A33 cars show N51 and N65?




N65 yes N51 no

Happy New Year.
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 01/01/09 05:14 PM

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If N51 was an option that could be ordered, it would show up in the data book, the salesman book, pricing updates, window stickers and the options and accessories report with cost as appropriate




N51 does show up on my A12 Bees wholesale dealer invoice as a separate item less fan
Posted By: 69CoronetRT

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 01/01/09 05:21 PM

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If N51 was an option that could be ordered, it would show up in the data book, the salesman book, pricing updates, window stickers and the options and accessories report with cost as appropriate




N51 does show up on my A12 Bees wholesale dealer invoice as a separate item less fan




That's not a surprise on your A12 car as N51 was part of the A12 package. As stated above, N51 was standard with the A12 and Hemi cars. If you ordered option code A12 or E74 then build code N51 was triggered.
Posted By: Paul

Re: Need 1969 Coronet R/T Radiator for 4-Speed car? - 01/02/09 01:48 PM

I learned something new here today. I assumed that a 1969 440 4-speed car would automatically get the Max Cool (054) radiator because that was the case in 1970. In 70 all hemi and all 440 4-speed cars got the 956 radiator. Apparently Chrysler must have trying to simplify things for 70.

Until recently, I never owned anything but 70s, I have a 69 Coronet now, so I having trying to expand my knowledge base.
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