Posted By: A12
Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/06/13 04:56 PM
Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags?
Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags?
Posted By: B5 Bee
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/06/13 07:05 PM
So there's plenty of room for people to have added options stamped on them and still be able to claim it's the original tag. 
As you see, I don't know either but have wondered the same.
As you see, I don't know either but have wondered the same.
Posted By: Redbird
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/06/13 07:13 PM
It seems to me that fender tags were not made with the thought of making things special for collectors 40 years in the future, but rather to make things easier for the plant and to track cars easier.
Plenty of car makes for decades had such thing as a fender tag and got along just fine.
Plenty of car makes for decades had such thing as a fender tag and got along just fine.
Posted By: A12
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/06/13 07:16 PM
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So there's plenty of room for people to have added options stamped on them and still be able to claim it's the original tag.
As you see, I don't know either but have wondered the same.
Here's my guess: to me it seems the only codes that are on the METAL Lynch Road fender tags are codes needed by Body-In-White (BIW) and the paint department or in other words only the codes that if they were on a PAPER broadcast sheet could possibly be burned from the welding and spot welding or covered with paint and couldn't be read during the assembly process.
What codes are on a Lynch Road (LR) fender tag that are not needed during BIW and paint?
Posted By: B5 Bee
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/06/13 10:44 PM
The way understand it, each dept gets a copy of the BS, so if the body shop BS was burnt or painted, the other depts have one.
Usually the sheets left in the cars were the ones from the interior dept, most others were thrown away.
Usually the sheets left in the cars were the ones from the interior dept, most others were thrown away.
Posted By: A12
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/06/13 11:07 PM
Anything on here that doesn't have something to do with BIW or paint 
Posted By: 70440+6bbl
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/06/13 11:08 PM
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So there's plenty of room for people to have added options stamped on them and still be able to claim it's the original tag.
As you see, I don't know either but have wondered the same.
Here's my guess: to me it seems the only codes that are on the METAL Lynch Road fender tags are codes needed by Body-In-White (BIW) and the paint department or in other words only the codes that if they were on a PAPER broadcast sheet could possibly be burned from the welding and spot welding or covered with paint and couldn't be read during the assembly process.
What codes are on a Lynch Road (LR) fender tag that are not needed during BIW and paint?
I have read that before and it makes sense. The one thing I find odd, is that you would think the radio code would be on the LR tag, but it isn't. I would assume the "body in white" guys would need to know if they should knock a hole in the fender or not for the antenna...
Posted By: A12
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/06/13 11:10 PM
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The way understand it, each dept gets a copy of the BS, so if the body shop BS was burnt or painted, the other depts have one.
Usually the sheets left in the cars were the ones from the interior dept, most others were thrown away.
But if it burned up right at the first weld how would the kept track of what it is or what it gets before it even moved in the gate?
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/07/13 04:11 AM
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But if it burned up right at the first weld how would the kept track of what it is or what it gets before it even moved in the gate?
When you compare what was and wasn't coded, you have to ask why was LR different than other plants. Why was it OK for some plants to codes those items you covered earlier but not LR? One would think your concerns about the welding were ignored at other plants.
The picture you posted and the items it contains are pretty much the same info you find at other plants. The major exception is the top row of gate/base/sequence. Other than that, you'll find the same codes on other tags PLUS additional sales codes.
Would P31 be related to BIW? That code does show up on 69 LR tags.
Posted By: A12
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/07/13 05:07 AM
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But if it burned up right at the first weld how would the kept track of what it is or what it gets before it even moved in the gate?
When you compare what was and wasn't coded, you have to ask why was LR different than other plants. Why was it OK for some plants to codes those items you covered earlier but not LR? One would think your concerns about the welding were ignored at other plants.
The picture you posted and the items it contains are pretty much the same info you find at other plants. The major exception is the top row of gate/base/sequence. Other than that, you'll find the same codes on other tags PLUS additional sales codes.
Would P31 be related to BIW? That code does show up on 69 LR tags.
What would they need to do in BIW to the door to install P31-power windows?
Posted By: A12
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/07/13 05:26 AM
Doug this is all just a guess on my part and we know that Lynch Road did a few other things that were not done the same in the other plants like the hanging of the fender tag and not one screw holding to the inner fender until after paint. So it seems (to me 
) that 95% of the codes on the LR fender tag were items that, again to me at least, were codes that could pertain to BIW or paint items.
This is a hobby to me and supposed to be fun
(still trying to locate a NOS Lynch Road fender tag paper clip
)
) that 95% of the codes on the LR fender tag were items that, again to me at least, were codes that could pertain to BIW or paint items.This is a hobby to me and supposed to be fun
(still trying to locate a NOS Lynch Road fender tag paper clip
)
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/07/13 05:50 AM
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What would they need to do in BIW to the door to install P31-power windows?
Got me. Of all the codes that do show up, that one is perplexing. I think it's pretty odd considering the ones that would affect BIW they didn't code. (radio, Tach, fender turn signals, etc, etc,)
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/07/13 06:30 AM
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What would they need to do in BIW to the door to install P31-power windows?
Got me. Of all the codes that do show up, that one is perplexing. I think it's pretty odd considering the ones that would affect BIW they didn't code. (radio, Tach, fender turn signals, etc, etc,)
P31 power windows requires a large hole in the door pillar for the wiring, door also needs a hole, holes are punched not drilled
Same reason tach, a/c or air grabber is on tag, they all need special holes before paint
Posted By: A12
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/07/13 04:17 PM
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What would they need to do in BIW to the door to install P31-power windows?
Got me. Of all the codes that do show up, that one is perplexing. I think it's pretty odd considering the ones that would affect BIW they didn't code. (radio, Tach, fender turn signals, etc, etc,)
P31 power windows requires a large hole in the door pillar for the wiring, door also needs a hole, holes are punched not drilled
Same reason tach, a/c or air grabber is on tag, they all need special holes before paint
Dave do you have any photos of the larger door holes for power windows?
Posted By: 69CoronetRT
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/08/13 02:08 AM
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Same reason tach, a/c or air grabber is on tag, they all need special holes before paint
Which is why I find it odd that a tach, radio or fender turn signals are not coded. They would certainly be much more common than PW. How did PW make the cut and not the other three?
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Why so few codes on '69 Lynch Road fender tags? - 11/08/13 03:34 AM
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What would they need to do in BIW to the door to install P31-power windows?
Got me. Of all the codes that do show up, that one is perplexing. I think it's pretty odd considering the ones that would affect BIW they didn't code. (radio, Tach, fender turn signals, etc, etc,)
P31 power windows requires a large hole in the door pillar for the wiring, door also needs a hole, holes are punched not drilled
Same reason tach, a/c or air grabber is on tag, they all need special holes before paint
Dave do you have any photos of the larger door holes for power windows?
I can tomorrow, I just happen to have a power window convertible at my shop
