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Anyone know of this car

Posted By: 340dart4spd

Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 01:16 AM

http://www.macleanclassics.com/69.5superbee.htm
Posted By: anlauto

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 01:49 AM

I don't know of that car, however I think that's an old ad that hasn't been up-dated....
The guy is a 1/2 hour from my house and I think the car is gone....I COULD BE WRONG...don't hesitate to contact him on it.
Also contact Dave Carson of the A12 registry, I'm sure he knows all about it
Posted By: smac77

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 01:53 AM

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I don't know of that car, however I think that's an old ad that hasn't been up-dated....
The guy is a 1/2 hour from my house and I think the car is gone....I COULD BE WRONG...don't hesitate to contact him on it.
Also contact Dave Carson of the A12 registry, I'm sure he knows all about it




wrong allan...it's still there
Posted By: anlauto

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 03:05 AM

Oops...Sorry I'm wrong Shawn....Hope everything is going well for you....Any buyers for my Barrelcuda yet

Had a guy asking me about Dave Tuckers old 71 green/white Hemi Challenger clone as well the other week...have you sold it?
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 03:21 AM

That's a nice freeking car!
Posted By: smac77

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 04:13 AM

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Oops...Sorry I'm wrong Shawn....Hope everything is going well for you....Any buyers for my Barrelcuda yet

Had a guy asking me about Dave Tuckers old 71 green/white Hemi Challenger clone as well the other week...have you sold it?




The chally isn't sold yet, but nick just told me to drop the price down for him. He's wanting to cut it loose... I've been swamped with the move to our new property and also building the new shop has taken all spring and summer so the cars and my website have just been on the backburner.. I haven't even had a chance to install the two shakers I bought from that Harm's place..... Oh, hey Scott!!

Funny enough Alan... when I seen your post, I remebered I was supposed to call smitty about the insurance appraisal thing... so I did, and left him a message tonight.

wasn't this post supposed to be about my bee???
Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 05:49 AM

When will the price be dropped? Curious how much but don't want to kill this thread.

Sheldon
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 02:40 PM

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Quote:

I don't know of that car, however I think that's an old ad that hasn't been up-dated....
The guy is a 1/2 hour from my house and I think the car is gone....I COULD BE WRONG...don't hesitate to contact him on it.
Also contact Dave Carson of the A12 registry, I'm sure he knows all about it




wrong allan...it's still there




I thought you sold that already ?
Posted By: smac77

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 08:04 PM

The Bee isn't sold yet, I had a deal done for the car restored @125k but becuase of the move and the backlog of resto work, I couldn't give the buyer a reasonable completion time so the deal was put on hold. Everything just went into storage for the spring/summer. I actually just got the new shop running this past month and am still not completley organised yet...getting there though...

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Posted By: massdaytona

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 10:24 PM

75k as it sits... i want some of what he is smoking...
Posted By: RP's R/T's

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 10:31 PM

A friend of mine is selling an duplicate of that car, running and driving (NOM) for $30,000 and only tire kickers have called.
I put an ad in the for sale section for 2 months...no one.
These cars are not worth what they were a few years ago, restorations are more costly (time and $$) than most people think and restored cars are coming down in price.
Posted By: anlauto

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 10:34 PM

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A friend of mine is selling an duplicate of that car, running and driving (NOM) for $30,000 and only tire kickers have called.
I put an ad in the for sale section for 2 months...no one.
These cars are not worth what they were a few years ago, restorations are more costly (time and $$) than most people think and restored cars are coming down in price.




Your friend has a running driving original A12 car for $30K and he can't sell it?
What's this world coming to?
Posted By: MrNormsTA

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 10:54 PM

I follow the price of A12's pretty well as I have had 4 in the last 7 yrs, ranging from very nice drivers to project cars, and would say the prices from 2 years ago are down close to 50% across the board. Unless you have a weird combo or black car, nice restored examples 75k, drivers 35k-50k, and projects 10-20k seem to be the norm. Guys can talk all they want how prices are still strong, but I just don't see it. I see the same broker cars listed 20 times over, gets old.

This car in question is very nice, but I feel there is no way that tailpanel can be saved on the car. Look at the one shot to see how it was bent down from prying open the trunk. At that point, might as well paint and restore it. I would think 40k would be more in line considering the rest of the good metal and matching criteria.

Rick.
Posted By: badblack68

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/13/08 11:51 PM

I`m sorry, but 40K is way too much these days for that car. A friend has a real nice b-5 blue 69 1/2 4 speed bee in excellent running/driving condition that he can`t move at 45K. Heck he can`t even sell a super nice 69 HEMI 4 speed GTX for 85K or best offer! It looks like the investment club has finally turned these cars back over to the hobbiest.
Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/14/08 12:54 AM

I don't see the "true hobbiest" getting back into these cars when the parts, paint, tires, machine work on the engine etc. comes to double what the car is worth. I know I'll be buried in my car before I'll sell it for much less than what I have into it. Hence no low priced sales on good cars.

Sheldon
Posted By: smac77

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/14/08 06:39 AM

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I follow the price of A12's pretty well as I have had 4 in the last 7 yrs, ranging from very nice drivers to project cars, and would say the prices from 2 years ago are down close to 50% across the board. Unless you have a weird combo or black car, nice restored examples 75k, drivers 35k-50k, and projects 10-20k seem to be the norm. Guys can talk all they want how prices are still strong, but I just don't see it. I see the same broker cars listed 20 times over, gets old.

This car in question is very nice, but I feel there is no way that tailpanel can be saved on the car. Look at the one shot to see how it was bent down from prying open the trunk. At that point, might as well paint and restore it. I would think 40k would be more in line considering the rest of the good metal and matching criteria.

Rick.




Hey Rick,
I can fix it, paint the back end and fender and have a 45% original paint car. But, I do agree, it deserves a rotissery to show condition or at least a high quality repaint and cosmetics. $40k is a little off though... Most of the recent serious offers have been in the low to mid $60's as it sits. I don't need to sell it though, it's just been waiting it's turn in line to be restored... No need for a "fire" sale on this one! Besides if It turns out I have to keep it, it'll look great beside the 5000 mile, black A-12 runner! (No it isn't for sale)

Setting the Bee aside... From a restorers perspective, I will gladly pay a premium for an original paint project, even with dings or dents, becuase I know what to expect and I know it costs twice as much to fix someone elses poor quality work...
Posted By: smac77

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/14/08 07:24 AM

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A friend of mine is selling an duplicate of that car, running and driving (NOM) for $30,000 and only tire kickers have called.
I put an ad in the for sale section for 2 months...no one.
These cars are not worth what they were a few years ago, restorations are more costly (time and $$) than most people think and restored cars are coming down in price.




Exact duplicate of mine? Original paint? Rust free body, frame, floors,trunk? In dry storage since the early 70's? Original 4-speed and dana? Original interior? running and driving? The only down side is a non original motor? Tell him to call me, I have $30,000 for him....905-880-0635 In fact I'll give you a couple of thousand for a finders fee...

This should be interesting...
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: Anyone know of this car - 11/14/08 04:01 PM

Yeah, I don't know. I think that although the car would make an easy resto, thier only original once. I'd seriously do the minimum work necessary and probably a high quality exterior only repaint (other than in the trunk, obviously). I would avoid repainting the underside, engine compartment, door jambs, interior, etc.

JMO.

That car has alot going for it IMO. I'm not running down to the ATM to take out $75k, but someone might. at $30k - $40k go ahead and ship it to me.


Dave
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