Posted By: JAK
1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 02/29/12 04:56 PM
What determines if the trunk lid should have the Dodge emblem? Does it depend if the vehicle has a luggage rack or wing?
1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability
Posted By: kidmopar
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 02/29/12 06:49 PM
Pretty sure they all had the "DODGE" on the deck lid 
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 02/29/12 07:25 PM
You'll need the engineering drawing to determine if there were any deletions to the emblem.
I'm of the opinion also that it was always installed.
I'm of the opinion also that it was always installed.
Posted By: floyd
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 02/29/12 10:08 PM
Another member posted this awhile back....
Posted By: THESHAKERPROJECT
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/02/12 04:59 PM
I wonder if ALL the Challenger got them for 71 as most survivor cars have them missing??? Its a hard emblem to find NOS and nobody makes a 
reproduction.
reproduction.
Posted By: 666
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/02/12 05:24 PM
The emblem is in reproduction, I have seen the person that sells them at Mopars at Carlisle and have his name writen down someplace. Cost of the Dodge Emblem was around 35 Dollars.
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/02/12 05:31 PM
Quote:
Another member posted this awhile back....
Thanks! I need to put mine on pretty soon.
They used to be hard to find but I have plenty from the Carlisle guy
Posted By: jeff968
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/02/12 05:55 PM
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I wonder if ALL the Challenger got them for 71 as most survivor cars have them missing???
But many of the "survivors" have picked up 70 R/T emblems in place of them!
Posted By: Mopargnome
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/02/12 05:58 PM
Quote:
Pretty sure they all had the "DODGE" on the deck lid
Does your red 71 have the Dodge script on the deck lid? I don't remember holes in it.
Posted By: kidmopar
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/02/12 08:23 PM
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Pretty sure they all had the "DODGE" on the deck lid
Does your red 71 have the Dodge script on the deck lid? I don't remember holes in it.
Dave , Remember that deck lid WAS blue & I 'believe' came off a 1970 "?" .......... The emblems are a "stick-on" and I have one ....... however it's not in great shape
looks like I'm going to have to hit Chris (Morty) up for one
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/02/12 08:26 PM
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Pretty sure they all had the "DODGE" on the deck lid
Does your red 71 have the Dodge script on the deck lid? I don't remember holes in it.
There are no holes - all 71 Challenger emblems are stick on except the engine call out
Posted By: HPMike
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/02/12 08:38 PM
Quote:
I wonder if ALL the Challenger got them for 71 as most survivor cars have them missing??? Its a hard emblem to find NOS and nobody makes a
Mine is there clearly...2800 mile original car....
Posted By: fireeng
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/02/12 09:01 PM
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I wonder if ALL the Challenger got them for 71 as most survivor cars have them missing??? Its a hard emblem to find NOS and nobody makes a
Mine is there clearly...2800 mile original car....
Did you add the 426 hemi in the tail panel?
Posted By: floyd
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/02/12 09:20 PM
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I wonder if ALL the Challenger got them for 71 as most survivor cars have them missing??? Its a hard emblem to find NOS and nobody makes a
Mine is there clearly...2800 mile original car....
That is such a good looking car! I love the 450s.
Posted By: JAK
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 01:03 AM
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The emblem is in reproduction, I have seen the person that sells them at Mopars at Carlisle and have his name writen down someplace. Cost of the Dodge Emblem was around 35 Dollars.
Can you locate his contact info or at least remember what his Carlisle row/space number?
Thanks
Posted By: v8punch
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 01:24 AM
mine do not has this for sure.
Posted By: THESHAKERPROJECT
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 01:48 AM
Quote:...........Yeah... I need one too if all 71 Challengers had em. I DO know they make the ones for the trucks and darts but I have never seen a reproduced one for the 71 Challenger trunk and none for sale one Ebag .Quote:
The emblem is in reproduction, I have seen the person that sells them at Mopars at Carlisle and have his name writen down someplace. Cost of the Dodge Emblem was around 35 Dollars.
Can you locate his contact info or at least remember what his Carlisle row/space number?
Thanks
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 02:27 AM
This one's on Ebay - "stick-on" Dart emblem - What's the difference? Is there a part number on them?
Posted By: Mopargnome
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 04:28 AM
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Pretty sure they all had the "DODGE" on the deck lid
Does your red 71 have the Dodge script on the deck lid? I don't remember holes in it.
Dave , Remember that deck lid WAS blue & I 'believe' came off a 1970 "?" .......... The emblems are a "stick-on" and I have one ....... however it's not in great shape
It was blue, huh!
Posted By: 666
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 05:33 AM
I contacted the person with the Dodge Trunk Emblems and he is out of town this weekend. When he gets back he is seeing how many Emblems he has now and then I will post on moparts that number and his contact information.
Posted By: moparfan53
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 06:42 AM
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This one's on Ebay - "stick-on" Dart. What's the difference? Is there a part number on them?
FWIW, the parts book lists the same part# (2965502) for the 71 Challenger trunk lid and the 71 Dart & Demon hood. Here is the Challenger page. I can post the Dart and/or Demon page if anybody wants.
Posted By: m46rat
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 08:26 AM
I have an extra NOS one and several of those "other" ones if someone is interested.
Posted By: JAK
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 01:18 PM
How much you asking for the NOS emblem?
Posted By: floyd
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 03:13 PM
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This one's on Ebay - "stick-on" Dart emblem - What's the difference? Is there a part number on them?
I've seen two types of stick-ons. The one in the eBay listing has two ridges bordering the top of the letters. The other type has a single raised ridge in the center of the letter face. I'll try to post a picture in a bit.
Posted By: floyd
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 05:37 PM
Here's a pic of the emblem on my car (bottom) compared to the one that is like the one in the eBay auction (top). The one on the car is slightly longer.
Posted By: floyd
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 05:42 PM
Another shot. BTW, the 71 Challenger grille emblem is identical to the eBay-style emblem but has pins for mounting. So which one is correct for the trunk lid? My car was restored so I can't be sure. The emblem shown in the engineering diagram looks like the one I have on the car. HPMike - Can you let us know what your car has?
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/03/12 11:00 PM
"fmmpr" has 3 auctions for a bunch of "stick-on" Dodge emblems listed on Ebay showing part #3811 220 (for mid '70s c-bodies & '80 F-body cop-cars). They appear to be the "hollow-center" design & are listed as 5-1/4" lg. Also the assembly drawing shows a serif on the top of the "G" that the "raised-center" design does NOT have.
Posted By: THESHAKERPROJECT
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/04/12 04:49 PM
Quote:.....Well now Bruce, do you have the correct one on your car or a later emblem from a dodge truck ?? I would like to see a close up of the one on the survivor above.
Here's a pic of the emblem on my car (bottom) compared to the one that is like the one in the eBay auction (top). The one on the car is slightly longer.
Posted By: HPMike
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/04/12 06:11 PM
Quote:Quote:.....Well now Bruce, do you have the correct one on your car or a later emblem from a dodge truck ?? I would like to see a close up of the one on the survivor above.
Here's a pic of the emblem on my car (bottom) compared to the one that is like the one in the eBay auction (top). The one on the car is slightly longer.
I have a pic, but cant post it because its too big and I dont know how to resize it? But it has the style that is recessed. I thought that was the only one used as I have never seen anything different??
MB
Posted By: THESHAKERPROJECT
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/04/12 09:04 PM
Ok so the raised one on the restored blue car may be wrong for a Challenger. I have seen the raised emblem on later dodge vans and trucks befor. Anyone have a pic of the reproduced emblem from the mystery seller ???
Anyone have a pic of the reproduced emblem from the mystery seller ???
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/05/12 06:18 PM
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Ok so the raised one on the restored blue car may be wrong for a Challenger. I have seen the raised emblem on later dodge vans and trucks befor.
3811220 superceeded the old part number
I'll post picks of a 3811220 and the mystery seller emblems this evening.
Posted By: kidmopar
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/06/12 02:13 AM
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Ok so the raised one on the restored blue car may be wrong for a Challenger. I have seen the raised emblem on later dodge vans and trucks befor.
3811220 superceeded the old part number
I'll post picks of a 3811220 and the mystery seller emblems this evening.
Posted By: 1932chrysler
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/06/12 02:52 AM
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Ok so the raised one on the restored blue car may be wrong for a Challenger. I have seen the raised emblem on later dodge vans and trucks befor.
3811220 superceeded the old part number
I'll post picks of a 3811220 and the mystery seller emblems this evening.
Posted By: fireeng
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/06/12 03:37 PM
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Ok so the raised one on the restored blue car may be wrong for a Challenger. I have seen the raised emblem on later dodge vans and trucks befor.
3811220 superceeded the old part number
I'll post picks of a 3811220 and the mystery seller emblems this evening.
I'm watching this one too
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/06/12 05:24 PM
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Ok so the raised one on the restored blue car may be wrong for a Challenger. I have seen the raised emblem on later dodge vans and trucks befor.
3811220 superceeded the old part number
I'll post picks of a 3811220 and the mystery seller emblems this evening.
I'm watching this one too
Sorry guys. Got super busy last night with other stuff. I still wanted to get this done so I wandered out to my shop last night to get you guys a pic, but the emblems were not where I thought they were
That means they are buried in my parts closet.
So you'll have to wait until tonight - sorry about that.
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/07/12 03:42 AM
OK here they are. I know the parts book shows 2965 502 but I think that was quickly changed to 3443 554 and then that got changed to 3811 220.
Here is a 3811 220 (top) that I got from Brad's NOS back in the day and the NOS emblem from the Carlisle guy.
Look identical to me.
Here is a 3811 220 (top) that I got from Brad's NOS back in the day and the NOS emblem from the Carlisle guy.
Look identical to me.
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/07/12 03:43 AM
Here's the back side. If it's a reproduction it's the best I've ever seen.
Posted By: HPMike
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/07/12 05:09 AM
Maybe its my eyes, but neither one looks right to me?
MB
MB
Posted By: kidmopar
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/07/12 05:37 AM
Chris , I have to say ..... The one you got from the guy @ Carlisle looks "more correct" to me? The One from Brad's looks like it has an 'edge' on top of the chrome letters? The other looks more separated like the original. My 
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/07/12 09:26 AM
Here's the decklid emblem on Mike's 2800 mile '71 HEMI Challenger R/T. If those superseded #s are correct "WHY" does Mitchell's emblem appear to be CORRECT and these others look to be in a more MODERN font? I understand a superseded part may not be identical, but would fit & function the same as the earlier part.
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/07/12 10:09 AM
cliff notes - did I get this correct? 
Dwight, Are your emblems the same as shown?
Dwight, Are your emblems the same as shown?
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/07/12 05:13 PM
Dan - the biggest difference is the end of the E
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/11/12 03:31 AM
Quote:
"fmmpr" has 3 auctions for a bunch of "stick-on" Dodge emblems listed on Ebay showing part #3811 220 (for mid '70s c-bodies & '80 F-body cop-cars). They appear to be the "hollow-center" design & are listed as 5-1/4" lg. Also the assembly drawing shows a serif on the top of the "G" that the "raised-center" design does NOT have.
The do appear that way, but that is not what he sends you. It's the typical Frank Mitchell bait and switch. I ordered two and received the exact same emblem that I posted that I got from the Carlisle guy.
Burned again.
Posted By: 6bblgt
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/12/12 11:34 AM
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/12/12 05:12 PM
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Sorry I put the linkf'ing Frank
These appear to be the same font as the "other" emblem except with pins
I've been in this hobby for 32 years - I should know better than to try to think that I was actually going to get something real fron Frank. I could go to the post office and claim a case of mail fraud
Posted By: floyd
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/12/12 05:28 PM
I had one of those deals with Frank Micthell several years ago. I filed a complaint/challenge with PayPal and I got an almost immediate response from him and he eventually made it right. Stay on him and get your $$$ back.
Posted By: HPMike
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/12/12 06:02 PM
Dont feel bad..He got me way back in 91. Tried to be cute about it. He found out quick how we do business in Jersey..
MB
MB
Posted By: kidmopar
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/12/12 11:58 PM
This thread could go on forever , but I have a question: In the engineering drawing on first page , is the specifications for the emblem placement 1.718" up from the deck-lid edge? + 2.75" in from the right-side? It's very difficult to read the numbers on the computer screen!
Posted By: 71vert340
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/13/12 03:28 AM
My 71 Challenger vert which I bought in July 1972 has the same trunk lid emblem that Mikes 2800 mile Hemi Challenger R/T has on it that was posted by 6bblgt. Mine is original.
Terry
Terry
Posted By: Mopargnome
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/13/12 03:40 AM
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This thread could go on forever , but I have a question: In the engineering drawing on first page , is the specifications for the emblem placement 1.718" up from the deck-lid edge? + 2.75" in from the right-side? It's very difficult to read the numbers on the computer screen!
You got it right. The pic gets bigger and thats what I see it says.
Posted By: kidmopar
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/13/12 04:02 AM
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This thread could go on forever , but I have a question: In the engineering drawing on first page , is the specifications for the emblem placement 1.718" up from the deck-lid edge? + 2.75" in from the right-side? It's very difficult to read the numbers on the computer screen!
You got it right. The pic gets bigger and thats what I see it says.
Dave , Thank You!
Posted By: JAK
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/13/12 11:36 AM
Could you provide the length and height of your original emblem?
Posted By: floyd
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/24/12 12:20 AM
Here's a shot from a friend's car. A very original 318 ragtop.
Posted By: floyd
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/24/12 12:23 AM
unrelated to the topic, but check out the heater box in the same car.
Posted By: kidmopar
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/24/12 04:22 AM
NICE! 
Posted By: 71vert340
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 03/24/12 03:46 PM
The emblem is 5 1/4" long by 5/8" tall.
Posted By: DAYCLONA
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 02/02/20 01:52 PM
I know, I know, very old thread, but I see the thread never listed a repro vendor for any 71 challenger only "DODGE" trunk emblems, I was scanning Van's Auto for new parts and saw this, thought I might pass it on thru this tread for anyone still looking for a 71 Challenger trunk lid emblem
Mike
Mike
Posted By: kidmopar
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 02/02/20 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by DAYCLONA
I know, I know, very old thread, but I see the thread never listed a repro vendor for any 71 challenger only "DODGE" trunk emblems, I was scanning Van's Auto for new parts and saw this, thought I might pass it on thru this tread for anyone still looking for a 71 Challenger trunk lid emblem
Mike
Mike
Thank You ! Dayclona !
After paying $100 + for an NOS one last year ( No sticky back
) This is truly a shot of fresh air & much needed repop part ! 
Posted By: Morty426
Re: 1971 Challenger Trunk Lid "Dodge" Emblem Applicability - 02/04/20 05:25 PM
Originally Posted by kidmopar
Originally Posted by DAYCLONA
I know, I know, very old thread, but I see the thread never listed a repro vendor for any 71 challenger only "DODGE" trunk emblems, I was scanning Van's Auto for new parts and saw this, thought I might pass it on thru this tread for anyone still looking for a 71 Challenger trunk lid emblem
Mike
Mike
Thank You ! Dayclona !
After paying $100 + for an NOS one last year ( No sticky back
) This is truly a shot of fresh air & much needed repop part ! Yeah that was a long time coming. That emblem also has some other applications IIRC but most sites are just listing the Challenger application.