Deck lid tire size marks

Posted By: 68jim

Deck lid tire size marks - 12/14/11 10:07 PM

This is another one of those detail things I'm getting around to finally. Before my 68 Road Runner went off to the paint shop I tried to see if there were any remnants of the factory marks made inside the deck lid for the tire size. The car was originally red but had been shot white back during its racing days. I lightly sanded down through the white and got a decent shadowing of the factory marks - looked like little prep and just painted over the marks and some of the jacking instructions... The car would have had F70 x 15 (Hemi) and came with steel wheels and poverty caps. I can mostly read what looks like a lower case "f" maybe??. The "70" is easy to make out but I'm not sure what else should have been there. An "X" maybe also??
Anyone have some trunk pictures showing those tire size marks and were they just made with a china marker/grease pen or something different?

Jim

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Posted By: 68jim

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/14/11 10:09 PM

Close up.

Posted By: 68jim

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/14/11 10:11 PM

Even closer. I've looked at these pictures and see it different every time.

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Posted By: Paul

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/14/11 10:34 PM

Here's a photo of the trunk marking in a 70 GTX I used to own.

That's a 'B' at the top, this car had 15x7 Rallyes with a black spare wheel.

Hope it helps

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Posted By: 69hemibeep

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/15/11 12:40 AM

Here is my 69 Road Runner

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Posted By: A12

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/15/11 12:56 AM

Jim, just assuming that it is a Lynch Road or maybe a St Louis built car but thinking more Lynch Road.

Sometimes the top would read RED for redline tire and then the F 70 under that for the tire size and then under that would be the rim size 15 and then under that the color of the rim/wheel. With full wheel covers or no covers on the A12 (in '69 of course) is was a "X" for a black wheel and in your case with the dog dishes they would be body color so they would use the car's paint code....don't know what your color is so I'll guess at RR1

I've seen several different ways but it usually had the tire stripe R for redline and W for white line or wall, the series and sizw F70, G70 and the rim size 14, 15 and wheel color X = black or the body color code

Something like:

RED
F 70
15
RR1

OR LIKE THIS

F40 X 15
RED

OR

Here's a link to just one of the discussions on this from the A12 Registry:

http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1319412344

MikeR

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Posted By: A12

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/15/11 12:58 AM

another:

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Posted By: A12

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/15/11 01:00 AM

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Here is my 69 Road Runner

did it have full wheel covers?

Posted By: A12

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/15/11 01:02 AM

another A12 LR car

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Posted By: 69hemibeep

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/15/11 01:21 AM

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Here is my 69 Road Runner

did it have full wheel covers?

Dog dishes and blue wheels and red lines, Lynch rd of coarse

Posted By: A12

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/15/11 01:30 AM

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Here is my 69 Road Runner

did it have full wheel covers?

Dog dishes and blue wheels and red lines, Lynch rd of coarse

was the spare black or was that X for 70 X 15 ?

Posted By: 68jim

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/15/11 02:41 AM

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Jim, just assuming that it is a Lynch Road or maybe a St Louis built car but thinking more Lynch Road.

Sometimes the top would read RED for redline tire and then the F 70 under that for the tire size and then under that would be the rim size 15 and then under that the color of the rim/wheel. With full wheel covers or no covers on the A12 (in '69 of course) is was a "X" for a black wheel and in your case with the dog dishes they would be body color so they would use the car's paint code....don't know what your color is so I'll guess at RR1

I've seen several different ways but it usually had the tire stripe R for redline and W for white line or wall, the series and sizw F70, G70 and the rim size 14, 15 and wheel color X = black or the body color code

Something like:

RED
F 70
15
RR1

OR LIKE THIS

F40 X 15
RED

OR

Here's a link to just one of the discussions on this from the A12 Registry:

http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1319412344

MikeR

Lynch road was a good assumption. I can't see a "red" or a "15" were I sanded off...not to say it might not have been there but can't be sure. It also looks like this may have one of those things that varied from plant to plant and shift to shift??? If the "X" denotes black spare then maybe I'm not really seeing an "X" on mine. I can't be really sure what it might have been. So for 68 - most likely should have been f 70 red or f 70 red pp?

Jim

Posted By: 69hemibeep

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/15/11 02:51 AM

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Here is my 69 Road Runner

did it have full wheel covers?

Dog dishes and blue wheels and red lines, Lynch rd of coarse

was the spare black or was that X for 70 X 15 ?

The broadcast sheet shows wheels U65 and no spare markings which would have been regular= Black or delete. It was missing one wheel do to a accident so I doubt it was the spare and all the research I have done shows the hemi cars with body color spares. I would assume the X was going towards 70X15 and the 15 didn't make it in the lid. I'm going to ask the original owner and see if he remembers.

Posted By: 69hemibeep

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/16/11 10:56 PM

I e-mailed the original owner and he said that all five wheels were painted blue,he was able to rotate the tires along with the spare.

Posted By: CornDogsCharger

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/17/11 01:25 AM

My B3 Blue '69 Super Bee still has the original tire marking on the deck lid. It reads:

W
F70-14

If I try hard, maybe I can save the decklid...

Justin
"CornDog"

Posted By: A12

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/17/11 01:37 AM

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If I try hard, maybe I can save the decklid...

Justin
"CornDog"

"W" white line tires???

Posted By: CornDogsCharger

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/17/11 02:02 AM

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"W" white line tires???

Yes. For what it's worth, this is also a Lynch Road car

Justin
"CornDog"

Posted By: RoadRunnerJD

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/17/11 04:53 AM

It could be an R instead of an X

Posted By: 68jim

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/17/11 04:00 PM

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It could be an R instead of an X

Must have some good eyes. An R would make sense more than an X. f 70 R or f 70 Red is probably what is there. I can't remember if red lines were available in a 14' flavor so maybe a 15 wasn't needed on the deck lid notation if it had "RED" I've looked at those pics many times..can't see an R, maybe if do that cross-eyed stare that makes the 3D pictures work...

Jim

Posted By: craigerlitz

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/17/11 06:32 PM

Do cars from all of the plants have these markings?

Thanks,
Craig

Posted By: Chi_Town_Runner

Re: Deck lid tire size marks - 12/17/11 07:01 PM

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. I can't remember if red lines were available in a 14' flavor

For 1968, Red Line 14" were available for the RR (383).
Coded on the bottom line of the fender tag as 44.

Frank