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Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger

Posted By: floyd

Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 02:43 AM

I am one of the lucky ones who got a bunch of paperwork from Mr. Norm's for my 71 Challenger. My question is about my order sheet. My car looks like it was ordered with rubber bumpers. For whatever reason, rubber bumpers were not on the car when delivered. Someone wrote "Not on S.O." next to the M73 block on the order sheet. Does anyone have any ideas on what may have happened? I'm not very knowlegeable on the ordering process. I'm pretty confident that you could get rubber bumpers on B5 cars, but I thought I saw something that showed B5 as not available in some early 71 model run liturature. This car has a 9/70 SPD. Maybe there was some confusion early in the 1971 production year?

Thanks!

Attached picture 6954577-ordersheet.jpg
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 03:05 AM

Interesting that it was ordered with 15" tires & W23 wheels before the 15" cast aluminum wheels were cancelled. See http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/PIBs/1971/71D%20pib%201%20p1.jpg
Posted By: floyd

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 03:12 AM

Wow Barry - I never noticed that. I saw the 14" road wheel with/chrome trim ring but never noticed the 15" cast wheel part. I guess I never thought those were avaialble on an e-body. Maybe I should scrounge up a set of those... I'm sure they can't be too expensive
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 03:25 AM

With both items marked 'Not on S.O." - my best guess is not on Shipped Order.

The bumpers in that color should have been available from the start, so maybe they were not in stock when needed?

Here is an image of the cancelled wheels for you;

Attached picture 6954657-1971w23cancelled.jpg
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 03:29 AM

The U82 is 15" tires, so that rules out the W23 wheel used for 14" tire cars.

Did it end up coming with 15" tires & Rallyes or 14" tires & Road Wheels?
Posted By: Mastershake340

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 03:41 AM

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With both items marked 'Not on S.O." - my best guess is not on Shipped Order.

The bumpers in that color should have been available from the start, so maybe they were not in stock when needed?

Here is an image of the cancelled wheels for you;


They look like the Diamante's wheels?

Attached picture 6954694-diamante11-19and20-11044small.jpg
Posted By: floyd

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 12:17 PM

It ended up with 15X7 Rallyes. "Not on Shipped Order" sounds plausible. It looks like someone went back over the order and made some pen and ink changes, I guess after the car arrived or was on its way.

The cast wheels were not what was I was picturing. I never noticed those being offered. Were they a 71-only thing that never made it to production?

Thanks
Posted By: steve70

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 12:38 PM

I have a Mr Norm's 71 Charger R/T that was ordered with colored bumpers but was shipped with chrome as were a lot of the cars ordered through that dealership. From what I understand Mr Norm ordered cars in groups and adding the colored bumper would have slowed down the line so they were shipped with chrome instead.

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6955082-dealerordersheet.pdf  (192 downloads)
Posted By: floyd

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 01:03 PM

Interesting, why would rubber bumpers slow down the line. Did those cars get pulled off for for additional paint work or were the bumpers already painted?

Looks like your order sheet was filled out on the same date - 7/6.
Posted By: steve70

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 02:00 PM

I'm guessing 7/6/70 was the first day you could place an order for a 1971?

I know Mr Norm ordered around 30 (total) Super Bee's and Charger R/T's and I'm sure a bunch of Challenger's at the same time. They probably didn't have the colored bumpers ready for the first cars being built.
Posted By: HPMike

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 06:30 PM

Killer car!

MB
Posted By: steve70

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/07/11 07:26 PM

It was also ordered with the rear speaker and road wheels but built without the speaker and the broadcast shows EV2 painted steel wheel with dog dish
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/08/11 09:41 AM

N96 4sp v code

post some pics of that car!!
Posted By: floyd

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/08/11 11:06 PM

I don't have any good pics handy but here's one posted following the 2010 Carlisle show.

http://public.fotki.com/JoeGrippo/events...0065.html#media
Posted By: steve70

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/08/11 11:15 PM

Beautiful car!
Posted By: HPMike

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/08/11 11:35 PM

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I don't have any good pics handy but here's one posted following the 2010 Carlisle show.

http://public.fotki.com/JoeGrippo/events...0065.html#media



Knockout! Stunning!
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/09/11 12:47 AM

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I don't have any good pics handy but here's one posted following the 2010 Carlisle show.

http://public.fotki.com/JoeGrippo/events...0065.html#media



Knockout! Stunning!



Yes it is - it was very nice to see the car in Carlisle. In my 30 years in Mopar it makes the third original M73 car I've ever seen.
Posted By: floyd

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/09/11 01:30 AM

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Yes it is - it was very nice to see the car in Carlisle. In my 30 years in Mopar it makes the third original M73 car I've ever seen.



Morty - Thanks, but as much as I'd like it to be, I don't consider it an original rubber bumper car. It was ordered that way but for whatever reason not delivered that way. Rubber bumpers are not listed on either the build sheet or the window sticker.

Guess you're back down to two

I'm not sweating it - I think they're awesome and its cool that I have some documentation that indicates it was supposed to have them.
Posted By: floyd

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/09/11 01:50 AM

Here's something interesting on the car's history (at least it's interesting to me). The car was ordered in July 1970 and was delivered in late Sept 1970. It sold for $5,889.24, but not until Sept of 1971. The original owner said he bought the car off the showroom floor. I saw this pic in a recent Muscle Car Review. It was taken from Hot Rod magazine article written in May 1971. I can't make out if that's a shaker or not and the grille could be argent (instead of R/T black) but one can always dream...

Damn! I just noticed it doesn't have the front spoilers (like mine). Time to wake up I guess.

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Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/09/11 02:57 AM

The low mile T/A was coded for front spoilers, but for whatever reason Norm's did not install them.
Posted By: NicksGarage

Re: Order Sheet Question - 71 Challenger - 12/09/11 03:29 AM

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With both items marked 'Not on S.O." - my best guess is not on Shipped Order.

The bumpers in that color should have been available from the start, so maybe they were not in stock when needed?

Here is an image of the cancelled wheels for you;


They look like the Diamante's wheels?



They sure do.
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